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oh yeah here we go we're live baby all

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right what's up y'all how's it going

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everybody on live youtube what's up

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uh okay

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well hey man

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this is another episode of ufo garage

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i'm ben and i'm joe and this is where we

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talk about ufos aliens today probably

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some cars and usually all things weird

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man baby yes what's up man how are you

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today dude i'm excited man we uh well

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first off it's been a long week and uh

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it's been a crazy week uh absolutely not

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just you know with our jobs and stuff

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but like everything else that's

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happening in the world in the news with

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ufos

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and uh we've got an awesome guest on

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tonight

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yes lou elizondo what

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yeah it's definitely not just our

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neighbor you know yeah which is normally

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kind of the thing so

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it's good stuff man dude

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well uh i'm ready because bring them in

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let's bring them in

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lou what's up man

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gents how are we doing today man we are

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awesome fantastic awesome fantastic so

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let me just start joe i'm i'm jealous

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i'm jealous of that wonderful mane you

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have

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i i there was a time in my life when i

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used to have a glorious mane like that

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as well

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but unfortunately uh it started started

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turning colors it started turning

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turning gray and so

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i know i came home from one deployment

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one day my daughter said dad you're

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you're

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santa claus so i said oh hell no so i

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shave it down i have my goatee and about

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a year and a half later you know my

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daughter comes back he says dad i'm like

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what honey just this is this is turning

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gray

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so i shave that off too right

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and you know

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well time goes by and my daughter comes

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back again she says dad i don't want to

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hear it it's staying and it ain't gray

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it's blonde that's what it is i'm not if

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i cut this off i'm gonna look like a

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like an oversized 12 year old so no

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this is this is staying where it is but

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i just wanted to say from from one beard

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man to another

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man you know major mad respect to you oh

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thank you very much man and i completely

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understand sometimes you just got to put

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your foot down on some things and and

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facial hair is definitely one of them i

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have to encourage you though man maybe

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you should think about maybe bringing in

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the beard because i started getting some

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gray and i think it's looking kind of

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cool actually like i've started getting

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all cocky and like telling people what

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to do because like

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now i'm getting older officials see you

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you can wear and probably rock it i just

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look like like like a creepy santa claus

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and so it's like all right i can't you

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know i

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i can't i can't rock the beard anymore

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well you got a great thing going right

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now man so

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little does this

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does anybody no one knows this but joe

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actually grew that beard last week and

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he started on monday and uh it's gotten

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this far guys listen i'm live and and

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all i got to say is man uh you know i'll

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be careful what i say on here but you

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know we're

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we're kind of hairy people so you know

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i'll shave in the morning and man i'll

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be i'll be darn if you know i i don't

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got that shadow coming and i i often

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tease if if i go to the gym in the

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morning you know if i strain while

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working out i'll come back with a full

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beard man i'm telling you yeah it's a

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struggle is real i i completely

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understand that's why i have all this

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it's just too much work

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yes man well hey man we're super glad to

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have you on tonight this is gonna be

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super exciting you know it's it's really

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cool for for ben and i you know we've

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been doing this for kind of a short time

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and we always go back to this

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conversation that we have like yo we can

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like hang out with our neighbors and

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like we just sit around and talk about

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aliens and it's just so cool that like

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going from that to like where we are

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right now getting to hang out with you

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man and just get to chit chat and get to

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know you for a little bit it's it's it's

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just awesome man so well listen guys let

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me tell you in all seriousness ben and

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joe this is this is

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you guys and and your audience are the

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reason why we're having this

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conversation um i can sit up on a podium

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all day long and i can yammer yammer all

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day but at the end of the day

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what matters is is is folks like you

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everyday folks that that are interested

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in the topic that are willing to have

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the conversation that are saying hell to

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the stigma and taboo

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uh we are here today exactly for the

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reason that that because you folks are

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here doing what you're doing and i'm not

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just saying that frivolously i'm not

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just saying that to kiss your ass i'm

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telling you honestly um this is this is

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the the the

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if you will the the movement that i've

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been referring to this groundswell of of

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people saying hey you know what

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you know i i want to know the truth i

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want to know what my government knows

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you know i i want to get involved and i

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i want i want some answers that that

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frankly my taxpayer dollars paid for you

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know those answers belong to me and i

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think i think it's great you know you

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guys are are

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every day on the ground having the

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conversation whether it's by the water

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cooler in this case the garage while

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turning wrenches um you know that's

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that's

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you guys give me kudos for where we are

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today in a conversation uh you know i i

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in turn have to give them to you uh and

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and your audience because this is this

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is why this is this conversation is

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successful it's not because of me it's

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because of you guys

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well thank you man very high praise yeah

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definitely definitely you know it's it's

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one of those things where it's it's uh

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a lot of people have been talking about

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it for a really really long time you

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know and you can really kind of see it

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like there's a lot of people out there

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that are tired but now they're starting

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to like really get this energy this you

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know there's a lot of like younger

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people that are starting to come in and

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everybody's just starting to ask

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questions and wanting to know things you

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know and it's it's really kind of like

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hopefully it's kind of this new era you

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know it'd be it'd be kind of kind of

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nice to turn the page a little bit you

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know and yeah i agree

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i mean it's a renaissance right i mean

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it's kind of like a new beginning and

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yeah a new new enlightenment for me you

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know why my generation screwed this this

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whole thing up royally so you know

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really i hate to say it but but the

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responsibility is on your generation and

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the generation after you to kind of fix

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this and and put this back on track and

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hopefully you know for the love of god

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don't make the same mistakes my

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generation did by just you know making

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cheap hollywood movies and and tin foil

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hats and and frankly [\h__\h] like that

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right you know this is a serious topic

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and it affects all of us and i i i

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applaud you guys and i applaud your

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generation for for saying to hell with

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you know with with your generation lou

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you guys are the reasons why we're here

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to begin with you know uh you you

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screwed it up for the last 70 years you

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know now it's time to to to change the

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way we do business and that's why i love

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the whole term of young guns

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uh i know in in the whole term of

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ufology people kind of

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you know get emotional about it

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but i like that i think i think fresh

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ideas are always important because

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dinosaurs like me where you know every

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day that goes on is is there's fewer and

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fewer of us left on the planet and you

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know maybe that's a good thing for this

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topic

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um and it's it's it's more and more this

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this narrative is is falling into your

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so again i just encourage you to be

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fearless continue to have a conversation

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um you know to hell with what what what

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people say look there's there's two

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types of people in the world there are

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those people that that witness and are

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subject to history and then there are

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those individuals that are part of

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making history and

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and you guys are you know and your

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audience is is part of that making

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history you're living through it right

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now and i'm not sure you'll appreciate

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it at the very moment you're probably

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kind of like wow what the heck's going

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on but i think 5 10 15 years from now

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you'll look back and say

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holy crap we were really at the tip of

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the spear on that we were we were

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leading this this this charge this

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movement at a grassroots level yeah and

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i mean that's that's enormous that's a

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huge accomplishment you know very few

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people can say that speaking of tip i

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mean you were a tip i mean that you were

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part of this program so you see what i

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did there uh like did you realize how

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big of a deal this was going to be when

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you were

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at your position uh and investigating

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these uh

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this phenomenon

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no i i hope i never had to have this

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conversation publicly i i was hopeful

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that my government

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and the organization i was in would

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continue to do the right thing and that

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is continue to to

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ask the the obvious question to continue

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to research this topic

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not pretend like it didn't exist um i'm

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only here because

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certain elements in the system fail to

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do their job uh the bureaucracy

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failed

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um and i'm not gonna you know blame any

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one single individual

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but you know we i took the same oath

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everybody else did and that is to defend

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your country from all enemies foreign

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and domestic and when the enemy turns

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out to be the bureaucracy itself

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uh you know you are enjoined and in some

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cases empowered to fix it

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um you know i i i

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when i first went into atep i would have

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i would have hoped i would have dreamed

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that this day would never come because

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that means we failed the fact that i am

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having this conversation having to be

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public about this in the way that i'm

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doing it means we failed our mission

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before it means we did not succeed in

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getting this information where it needed

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to be when it needed to be and and so

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individuals could make make good

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decisions so

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so no um you know i i'm grateful for the

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opportunity to to

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try to fix it but um

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you know no i'm here because because we

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failed because i failed

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i mean i've never heard

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heard anyone from the government admit

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to failure so that's pretty huge man

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i mean i'm not like some

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dude that's against the government or

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anything but i'm just being observant

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like yeah well i mean it's true i can

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sit here all day long and tell you oh

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you know things are rosy and we did such

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a great job and you know the people that

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in the office did do a fantastic job but

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ultimately the responsibility fell on my

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shoulders to take this conversation and

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get it before the right people

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and you know uh

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whether it was my fault or not the

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responsibility is is on me to do it and

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you know the buck stopped with me

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and and ultimately i failed in that

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mission and i had to wind up leaving the

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very department that i loved in order to

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finish the very mission they gave me in

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the first place

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yeah dang

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so when you when you were put in that

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position uh did you have any idea of the

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magnitude of like you're like okay

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there's a lot of stuff that i need to do

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and then coming up

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against these roadblocks and being able

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to kind of do your job

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was it only then that you kind of

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realize like

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how like like i don't know like how deep

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this this really is or was it just

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bureaucracy as as as usual you know is

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it just yeah did it get in did it get

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into any other layers that were

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unexpected

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well sure now i think if you're asking

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me there's any type of uh can i can i

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validate or verify any conspiracy

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conspiracies that people you know are

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always tempted to ask uh you know

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unfortunately i think the biggest secret

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is that that there was a lot of

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dysfunction uh um there wasn't it wasn't

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some uh secret guy smoking a cigarette

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in a you know dim lit room and and

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making all the decisions

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um it wasn't we were subject uh to to

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budget cuts every four years you have a

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uh you know a potentially new

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administration that comes in you're

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doing budget drills where you're cutting

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10 percent 20 of your budget and you're

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manning and people that you're gonna

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hire now you can't hire anymore

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uh and there's this kind of whip saw

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effect that you're always doing then of

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course you know halfway through an

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administration oh we ran out of money so

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we needed to take another 20 cut well

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you know 20 of nothing is is nothing you

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know i i can't cut anymore there's

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nothing else to cut you know and so

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uh that was that was a big distraction

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plus you had um at the time you know a

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lot of battle fatigue in real life we

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were we were still fighting uh a war in

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afghanistan and litter on iraq as well

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and then we had all sorts of issues in

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in africa

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uh with terrorism uh you know of course

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not to mention all the other issues like

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like the nuclear proliferation and and

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rogue nation states acquiring nuclear

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technology so you know i'm i'm not gonna

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certainly lay blame and say you know my

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my topic my my portfolio should have

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been number one in priority one for the

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country that's that's silly i'm not i'm

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not saying that i never would say that

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what i'm simply saying is that

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someone needed to be

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eventually on the stick for this and it

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needed to be someone at a very senior

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level

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that could at some point advise the

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president advise the secretary of

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defense advise congress uh about these

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issues because these issues weren't

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going away they continued to happen more

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and more and more often and more

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frequently and i kept having these

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reports coming in from from aviators and

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folks aboard ships and

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folks out in the field

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uh and they were desperate in some cases

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very desperate pleas and and i kept you

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know letting them know don't worry the

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cavalry's coming

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and and i'd go up and brief it and it

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come back and you know no there there

389
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was no there was no bugle there was no

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cavalry coming yeah and it got very

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frustrating and so

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um

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yeah so yeah man yeah so

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this

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through my head i mean obviously it's

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not something that they

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post out on the bulletin board outside

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the mess hall right it's not something

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that you're like oh

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i don't know how much you can go into it

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but i mean like how how how did they

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come to the decision

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lou

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who's our guy

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so uh you guys are probably too young

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for this but when i grew up there used

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to be commercials for this this cereal

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known called life cereal right my god

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mikey right nobody ever wanted to eat

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the new stuff hey give it to mikey let

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that was me i was mikey i had i had the

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worst portfolios you can imagine every

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every radioactive portfolio that nobody

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wanted to touch that was absolute career

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suicide was given to me uh and so

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the last 10 years of my my career i was

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really focused on on two primary

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portfolios uh one was the

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one was guantanamo bay and the other one

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was uh the ufo portfolio yeah and as you

421
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can imagine i was probably one of the

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most unpopular people in the entire

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building

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wow

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that's pretty wild man lou so

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before you started doing all this stuff

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like

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has anything wild ever happened to you

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like did you ever have an experience as

430
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as like a child or something or did you

431
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did did anything happen to you that like

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ever inspired you to like oh my goodness

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look at what's happening you know i'm

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gonna be getting into this position

435
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there's stuff i've always wanted to know

436
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i mean have you ever had an experience i

437
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guess is what i'm asking pre a tip

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boy

439
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that's probably a question uh better

440
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asked literally in one of our garages

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while we're drinking

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copious amounts of alcohol

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uh

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you know i my per i've always avoided

445
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talking about my personal experiences

446
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because i'm not sure at the end of the

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day

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uh first of all they're

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they may not be relevant and they may

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not even be valid uh because they're my

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own personal observations and

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experiences and i think it's important

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when we're having a conversation like

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this on a topic like this that we we

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avoid the temptation of superimposing

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our own personal bias and our own

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experiences

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over the collection of data because what

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happens we're human beings and what's

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going to happen is we're that that data

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is going to be tainted it's going to be

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jaded even subconsciously even if we

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don't even think it's happening we are

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there's a reason why in a jury you

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sequester a jury away and you don't let

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them watch the news or the media or

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anything because it will subconsciously

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influence their decision-making process

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and so for that exact reason i don't

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want to

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jade the jury and as i've said before my

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job is very simple it's to collect the

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truth and speak the truth that's it as

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an investigator and then present that

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information to a jury and in this case

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you guys are the jury your audience is a

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jury the american people are the jury so

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at the end of the day it doesn't really

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matter what i think something is what

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matters what the facts say and what

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matters is what you think about those

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facts not luis elizondo and so

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um you know i've i've always abstained

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from talking about personal experiences

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as i relate to this only because um

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you know i i as as tempting as it the

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offer may be

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uh i'm not trying to convince anybody of

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anything i don't really frankly give a

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damn if somebody believes me or not

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that's what i'm doing this i'm doing

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this to get the facts out and then then

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you know you you make up your own mind

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you make up your own decision what those

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facts mean i'm not going to lead you

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down some some some preconceived

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narrative some path where you know oh

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the great oracle lou has spoken that's

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that's that's horseshit that's not what

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i'm trying to do excuse my language well

501
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a lot of people would react that way

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though you know it's it's yeah well

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because yeah because cults of

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personality and in this career field is

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full of them you don't you don't

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you don't need another one of those you

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know you you need to make up your own

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mind you need you need to be armed with

509
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the information and then and then you

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decide what path it is you want to go

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down and what makes sense for you

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i'm sorry i was going to say like while

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we're on the topic of of speaking the

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truth and to the people that you know

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experience this stuff all the time and i

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apologize by the way for cursing so

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folks

518
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you're okay we have small children out

519
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there i'm sorry we're never gonna get

520
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monetized i'm an old military man so uh

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no excuse it's just an explanation yeah

522
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no worries man no worries uh so i was

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gonna say like

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uh from a tip to to ttsa right like

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there were there was something about tt

526
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saying that all that always irked me and

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joe like why didn't they talk to anybody

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in the ufology community or any

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experiencer like that's something that

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me and joe love to do that's what this

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podcast is about us talking to

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experiencers people that have seen this

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stuff first hand those are the those are

534
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the stories that we want to get you know

535
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we've had our own experiences um and you

536
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know they're not as intense as some

537
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others that we've talked to and the

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people that we met

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um and in going from from

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a tip to ttsa you're a part of this

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thing they're not let you're not talking

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to anybody in this community and the

543
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fact that

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you know all this this com not complaint

545
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but like this turmoil

546
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i got it ben you're absolutely right and

547
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and look no this is not a hit on ttsa or

548
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anybody else you know when i came out of

549
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the government i wasn't a ufology guy

550
00:19:19,590 --> 00:19:17,200
i'm still not a ufology guy um i i'm i'm

551
00:19:21,590 --> 00:19:19,600
a national security guy and so what i

552
00:19:24,390 --> 00:19:21,600
wanted to do my focus personally was to

553
00:19:25,830 --> 00:19:24,400
focus on the 99 of the people that have

554
00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:25,840
never really

555
00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:27,840
been exposed to this topic right because

556
00:19:31,669 --> 00:19:29,679
the ufology people have their already

557
00:19:33,590 --> 00:19:31,679
have their base and they they have their

558
00:19:34,470 --> 00:19:33,600
theories and they have that you know

559
00:19:37,110 --> 00:19:34,480
they're already having their

560
00:19:39,029 --> 00:19:37,120
conversations about this but there's 99

561
00:19:41,590 --> 00:19:39,039
of the world yet that hasn't really been

562
00:19:44,070 --> 00:19:41,600
exposed now at the same time what wound

563
00:19:47,190 --> 00:19:44,080
up happening is in doing so

564
00:19:49,190 --> 00:19:47,200
we me personally wound up neglecting

565
00:19:51,350 --> 00:19:49,200
that core group of people who already

566
00:19:53,909 --> 00:19:51,360
had an interest in this right and so

567
00:19:56,150 --> 00:19:53,919
um i i had falsely assumed that they

568
00:19:57,590 --> 00:19:56,160
don't need me they have themselves and

569
00:19:59,350 --> 00:19:57,600
they you know already are doing their

570
00:20:01,830 --> 00:19:59,360
research and they have their their

571
00:20:03,669 --> 00:20:01,840
experts and everything like that so i

572
00:20:06,149 --> 00:20:03,679
have less of a role to play and it

573
00:20:07,350 --> 00:20:06,159
wasn't until probably i realized people

574
00:20:08,630 --> 00:20:07,360
were coming to me saying hey i've been

575
00:20:09,430 --> 00:20:08,640
trying to get in touch with you for a

576
00:20:11,350 --> 00:20:09,440
year

577
00:20:14,070 --> 00:20:11,360
i'm like what do you mean just just

578
00:20:16,470 --> 00:20:14,080
email me and they're like no we can't

579
00:20:18,870 --> 00:20:16,480
that's when i realized oh maybe maybe

580
00:20:20,870 --> 00:20:18,880
there's there there's there's a small

581
00:20:22,549 --> 00:20:20,880
issue here and so well you're dealt with

582
00:20:24,950 --> 00:20:22,559
you're double timing it like you're

583
00:20:26,630 --> 00:20:24,960
making up for that i feel like or now

584
00:20:28,310 --> 00:20:26,640
right like yeah definitely getting out

585
00:20:30,390 --> 00:20:28,320
there well i mean i have some making up

586
00:20:31,669 --> 00:20:30,400
to do don't i i mean yeah

587
00:20:35,830 --> 00:20:31,679
the time not

588
00:20:37,110 --> 00:20:35,840
not not talking to everybody and uh you

589
00:20:38,870 --> 00:20:37,120
know looking back that was that was

590
00:20:40,149 --> 00:20:38,880
probably a bit of a mistake and i'll be

591
00:20:42,950 --> 00:20:40,159
the first one to to accept

592
00:20:44,390 --> 00:20:42,960
responsibility for that i i didn't think

593
00:20:45,750 --> 00:20:44,400
that that i mean most of when i first

594
00:20:47,830 --> 00:20:45,760
came out that most of you followed you

595
00:20:49,590 --> 00:20:47,840
hated me most people in in this

596
00:20:50,710 --> 00:20:49,600
community you mentioned my name and

597
00:20:53,029 --> 00:20:50,720
they'd spit on the ground and say

598
00:20:54,390 --> 00:20:53,039
disinformation agent and cia shell and

599
00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:54,400
blah blah blah blah all this other you

600
00:20:59,270 --> 00:20:56,640
know nonsense yeah so i was like okay

601
00:20:59,990 --> 00:20:59,280
well you know what um i mean do you do

602
00:21:01,669 --> 00:21:00,000
but

603
00:21:03,750 --> 00:21:01,679
like i mean we've all heard the horror

604
00:21:06,070 --> 00:21:03,760
stories i mean dude in a way do you kind

605
00:21:08,710 --> 00:21:06,080
of understand like

606
00:21:10,870 --> 00:21:08,720
yeah people felt that way like you know

607
00:21:12,630 --> 00:21:10,880
guys i don't blame anybody for that i i

608
00:21:13,510 --> 00:21:12,640
totally get it but i also would say you

609
00:21:15,590 --> 00:21:13,520
know

610
00:21:17,510 --> 00:21:15,600
we have to be careful because of some

611
00:21:19,909 --> 00:21:17,520
look if you judge someone because of the

612
00:21:21,430 --> 00:21:19,919
previous judge job it's like judging

613
00:21:24,149 --> 00:21:21,440
someone for their religion or their

614
00:21:25,830 --> 00:21:24,159
color or their race or their ethnicity

615
00:21:27,669 --> 00:21:25,840
you know we have to be careful not to

616
00:21:29,909 --> 00:21:27,679
stereotype because i know people say you

617
00:21:32,710 --> 00:21:29,919
know once a cia guy always a cia guy

618
00:21:34,870 --> 00:21:32,720
well that's not true you know and and oh

619
00:21:36,149 --> 00:21:34,880
they're all disinformation agents well

620
00:21:37,510 --> 00:21:36,159
first of all do you even know what that

621
00:21:39,190 --> 00:21:37,520
word means because the library will

622
00:21:41,430 --> 00:21:39,200
throw it around oh he's a disinformation

623
00:21:43,430 --> 00:21:41,440
agent okay give me the definition of it

624
00:21:45,669 --> 00:21:43,440
oh it's a false flag okay what's the

625
00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:45,679
definition what false flag right it's

626
00:21:49,510 --> 00:21:48,559
not it's not a flag yeah i don't know it

627
00:21:50,310 --> 00:21:49,520
sounds

628
00:21:51,590 --> 00:21:50,320
cool

629
00:21:52,870 --> 00:21:51,600
no it's it's

630
00:21:54,470 --> 00:21:52,880
there's a specific definition it's

631
00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:54,480
called the english language please you

632
00:22:00,789 --> 00:21:57,120
know learn it and use it correctly

633
00:22:02,870 --> 00:22:00,799
so for me it was um

634
00:22:05,750 --> 00:22:02,880
it was a little bit frustrating because

635
00:22:07,909 --> 00:22:05,760
people you know i i did my job with with

636
00:22:09,510 --> 00:22:07,919
great pride and and i served my country

637
00:22:12,310 --> 00:22:09,520
honorably

638
00:22:14,149 --> 00:22:12,320
and my entire wall is my whole life you

639
00:22:16,870 --> 00:22:14,159
can't see it here but my entire life is

640
00:22:18,710 --> 00:22:16,880
here and i lost a lot of friends on the

641
00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:18,720
battle battlefield who who didn't come

642
00:22:22,070 --> 00:22:20,640
back and and weren't able to spend time

643
00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:22,080
with their family or friends they lost

644
00:22:26,149 --> 00:22:24,080
their lives over there and for people to

645
00:22:28,630 --> 00:22:26,159
just willy-nilly you know accuse

646
00:22:31,029 --> 00:22:28,640
somebody of something like that

647
00:22:32,549 --> 00:22:31,039
is you know it's very hurtful and

648
00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:32,559
you know as i've said before at least in

649
00:22:37,350 --> 00:22:35,440
combat you know i can shoot my enemy but

650
00:22:39,830 --> 00:22:37,360
but here i can i'm supposed to just

651
00:22:42,070 --> 00:22:39,840
smile and take it and and and you know

652
00:22:44,390 --> 00:22:42,080
stay focused and so my answer to that

653
00:22:45,669 --> 00:22:44,400
was you know what just you know ignore

654
00:22:47,750 --> 00:22:45,679
all that noise

655
00:22:49,029 --> 00:22:47,760
let those folks do what they do you know

656
00:22:51,430 --> 00:22:49,039
if they want to eat their own eat their

657
00:22:53,669 --> 00:22:51,440
own i'm going to focus on on the other

658
00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:53,679
you know major portion of the population

659
00:22:57,029 --> 00:22:55,600
that really never consider this even as

660
00:22:58,789 --> 00:22:57,039
a remote possibility right they're

661
00:22:59,750 --> 00:22:58,799
learning this for the first time

662
00:23:02,630 --> 00:22:59,760
so

663
00:23:04,310 --> 00:23:02,640
going back and and engaging people and

664
00:23:06,310 --> 00:23:04,320
and having to

665
00:23:08,310 --> 00:23:06,320
let them meet me as a real person then

666
00:23:09,990 --> 00:23:08,320
they kind of say oh you know i still

667
00:23:11,750 --> 00:23:10,000
don't like government people but yeah

668
00:23:12,789 --> 00:23:11,760
lou you're kind of okay you know and i

669
00:23:14,390 --> 00:23:12,799
said well

670
00:23:16,310 --> 00:23:14,400
if we talk a little bit more you might

671
00:23:18,070 --> 00:23:16,320
find some of my friends they're actually

672
00:23:20,710 --> 00:23:18,080
okay too and you're gonna find out that

673
00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:20,720
we're all human beings and it was a job

674
00:23:24,870 --> 00:23:22,559
that we did we did it for america not

675
00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:24,880
against america uh you know and and

676
00:23:28,149 --> 00:23:26,400
please don't hold me accountable for my

677
00:23:30,070 --> 00:23:28,159
father's sins because that's not fair

678
00:23:32,310 --> 00:23:30,080
yes there were times the government did

679
00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:32,320
bad things to americans they lied to

680
00:23:35,830 --> 00:23:33,840
them they kept look i'm in the middle of

681
00:23:37,110 --> 00:23:35,840
a fight right now where people are being

682
00:23:39,270 --> 00:23:37,120
forthcoming they're not being truthful

683
00:23:41,590 --> 00:23:39,280
with the american people yeah but

684
00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:41,600
but but i'm handling it i'm fighting it

685
00:23:45,110 --> 00:23:43,360
the right way i'm not just going out and

686
00:23:46,870 --> 00:23:45,120
screaming at the top of my lungs you

687
00:23:48,710 --> 00:23:46,880
know there are mechanisms that are

688
00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:48,720
available to try to

689
00:23:52,950 --> 00:23:50,799
to get the system to work uh if you

690
00:23:55,190 --> 00:23:52,960
don't like the system you know don't

691
00:23:57,190 --> 00:23:55,200
don't don't put everybody into the same

692
00:23:59,269 --> 00:23:57,200
basket you know and say oh you're all

693
00:24:00,549 --> 00:23:59,279
bad that's not the case there's a lot of

694
00:24:02,630 --> 00:24:00,559
people a lot of patriots out there that

695
00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:02,640
really want to do the right thing

696
00:24:07,430 --> 00:24:05,760
yeah yeah man yeah well i i want to say

697
00:24:10,230 --> 00:24:07,440
thank you for your service uh first and

698
00:24:12,149 --> 00:24:10,240
foremost uh most um i also want to say

699
00:24:14,390 --> 00:24:12,159
so my older brother uh was a police

700
00:24:16,070 --> 00:24:14,400
officer for 20 years and the one thing

701
00:24:17,430 --> 00:24:16,080
he he would tell me

702
00:24:20,310 --> 00:24:17,440
growing up because you know i'd be

703
00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:20,320
afraid of cops he said dude they're just

704
00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:22,320
it's me like they're just people after

705
00:24:25,669 --> 00:24:24,480
their job they're they're kicking back

706
00:24:27,350 --> 00:24:25,679
and they have families and they're just

707
00:24:29,190 --> 00:24:27,360
normal people so i think what you're

708
00:24:31,269 --> 00:24:29,200
doing what you're doing now is amazing

709
00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:31,279
bro like just going on and talking to

710
00:24:34,549 --> 00:24:32,880
people yeah you know changing people's

711
00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:34,559
minds you know and

712
00:24:38,070 --> 00:24:36,480
yeah for sure like when it first all

713
00:24:40,230 --> 00:24:38,080
dropped they're like there's this guy

714
00:24:42,149 --> 00:24:40,240
lou elizondo i mean i'll be the first

715
00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:42,159
one to tell you i was like oh

716
00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:43,200
well

717
00:24:47,029 --> 00:24:45,440
here we go again you know and then like

718
00:24:48,630 --> 00:24:47,039
you know the more the more you hear you

719
00:24:50,149 --> 00:24:48,640
talk but i mean like like you said i

720
00:24:51,269 --> 00:24:50,159
mean you understand we all understand

721
00:24:53,110 --> 00:24:51,279
they're like yeah there was like a

722
00:24:54,710 --> 00:24:53,120
pretty gnarly time like in this field

723
00:24:57,110 --> 00:24:54,720
where there was some stuff happening you

724
00:24:59,110 --> 00:24:57,120
know and and so it's it's it's always

725
00:25:01,110 --> 00:24:59,120
it's it's a good it's like a healthy

726
00:25:03,590 --> 00:25:01,120
skepticism you know and that's what i'm

727
00:25:05,430 --> 00:25:03,600
saying like turn into a new page i agree

728
00:25:06,950 --> 00:25:05,440
i i think healthy skepticism is

729
00:25:09,430 --> 00:25:06,960
important as long as it doesn't lead to

730
00:25:12,789 --> 00:25:09,440
paranoia for sure for sure you know

731
00:25:15,750 --> 00:25:12,799
paranoia isn't based in reason you know

732
00:25:17,190 --> 00:25:15,760
skepticism sure paranoia

733
00:25:18,470 --> 00:25:17,200
not so much you know that can be

734
00:25:20,390 --> 00:25:18,480
debilitating and it's not very

735
00:25:22,470 --> 00:25:20,400
productive so for sure that's would be

736
00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:22,480
my only word of caution oh you know be

737
00:25:27,350 --> 00:25:24,799
be always cautious just don't let your

738
00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:27,360
caution wind up controlling you yeah

739
00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:30,320
yeah yeah man and and we get it man me

740
00:25:33,990 --> 00:25:32,320
and ben understand the arrows being shot

741
00:25:36,310 --> 00:25:34,000
people tell us we can't read all the

742
00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:36,320
time all the time dude sometimes they're

743
00:25:41,510 --> 00:25:38,960
like these guys are dummies

744
00:25:43,990 --> 00:25:41,520
you know it happens it happens but hey i

745
00:25:44,950 --> 00:25:44,000
mean just because we can't actually read

746
00:25:48,149 --> 00:25:44,960
like

747
00:25:49,669 --> 00:25:48,159
we read very well actually

748
00:25:50,789 --> 00:25:49,679
let me let you guys in a little little

749
00:25:51,669 --> 00:25:50,799
secret here

750
00:25:54,149 --> 00:25:51,679
um

751
00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:54,159
after spending my my entire career in

752
00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:56,880
the in the intelligence community

753
00:25:59,990 --> 00:25:58,559
i've learned you don't have to be

754
00:26:01,830 --> 00:26:00,000
intelligent to be in the intelligence

755
00:26:03,029 --> 00:26:01,840
community so

756
00:26:05,110 --> 00:26:03,039
dang dude

757
00:26:10,230 --> 00:26:05,120
absolutely living proof of that so

758
00:26:13,750 --> 00:26:12,149
so i wanted to ask you you know even

759
00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:13,760
though you don't want to you know you

760
00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:15,120
don't really talk about your your

761
00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:17,520
personal experiences

762
00:26:21,909 --> 00:26:20,080
eve you know

763
00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:21,919
you you've probably seen some stuff i'm

764
00:26:25,269 --> 00:26:23,200
trying to get my thoughts together

765
00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:25,279
you've probably seen some stuff and then

766
00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:27,120
heard somebody talk about something and

767
00:26:30,470 --> 00:26:28,640
you're like

768
00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:30,480
yeah that's probably that's what that

769
00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:32,240
looks like you know like in your head

770
00:26:36,149 --> 00:26:34,000
you know i mean it's impossible that

771
00:26:39,190 --> 00:26:36,159
that hasn't happened so even if you say

772
00:26:40,870 --> 00:26:39,200
yes or no we all know the truth

773
00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:40,880
but you know i'm kind of doing it now

774
00:26:44,710 --> 00:26:41,760
aren't i

775
00:26:47,669 --> 00:26:44,720
so so you know

776
00:26:49,590 --> 00:26:47,679
an experiencer themselves or or somebody

777
00:26:51,590 --> 00:26:49,600
if we're talking about you know about

778
00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:51,600
the data

779
00:26:55,510 --> 00:26:53,120
are people

780
00:26:57,350 --> 00:26:55,520
people are data too aren't they

781
00:26:59,110 --> 00:26:57,360
we are absolutely

782
00:27:01,269 --> 00:26:59,120
and so like when we're when we're

783
00:27:03,110 --> 00:27:01,279
talking about like the experiences and

784
00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:03,120
like being able to share experience and

785
00:27:04,950 --> 00:27:04,000
stuff

786
00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:04,960
you know

787
00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:06,720
you're you're a vital piece of that of

788
00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:08,240
that data

789
00:27:14,470 --> 00:27:11,360
and i i see like in your position how

790
00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:14,480
that could be a little sticky obviously

791
00:27:19,590 --> 00:27:16,480
but being able to

792
00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:19,600
freely share you know your experience

793
00:27:24,710 --> 00:27:22,960
is uh is i think is is very important

794
00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:24,720
but at the same time you got to

795
00:27:28,549 --> 00:27:26,880
obviously be careful on you know what

796
00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:28,559
you're listening to because anybody can

797
00:27:33,029 --> 00:27:30,559
just say anything right but when we're

798
00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:33,039
actually getting like the radar signals

799
00:27:36,630 --> 00:27:34,960
and we're getting these photos and like

800
00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:36,640
we're getting actual like pilots

801
00:27:41,990 --> 00:27:38,880
confirming this stuff and then you start

802
00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:42,000
crossing that that data with like the

803
00:27:47,590 --> 00:27:44,960
actual stories you know is is that a way

804
00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:47,600
that you can kind of weed out the

805
00:27:51,669 --> 00:27:49,760
not so credible stuff you know we're

806
00:27:53,029 --> 00:27:51,679
we're all dating well joe joe you

807
00:27:54,870 --> 00:27:53,039
mentioned something in the beginning and

808
00:27:56,549 --> 00:27:54,880
i'll i'll answer your question but you

809
00:27:57,190 --> 00:27:56,559
said something very important and that

810
00:27:59,510 --> 00:27:57,200
is

811
00:28:00,950 --> 00:27:59,520
we are data and we are we are we are

812
00:28:04,389 --> 00:28:00,960
biological

813
00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:04,399
in essence collection sensor units we

814
00:28:09,430 --> 00:28:06,799
we we we receive data from the

815
00:28:12,310 --> 00:28:09,440
environment and we process intensifies

816
00:28:14,470 --> 00:28:12,320
synthesize that data to create a mental

817
00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:14,480
picture of what we perceive to be our

818
00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:17,600
environment and you know let me let me

819
00:28:21,350 --> 00:28:18,960
give you an example i used to give some

820
00:28:22,950 --> 00:28:21,360
of my my young ages okay

821
00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:22,960
there are simply two words in the

822
00:28:28,230 --> 00:28:24,720
english language

823
00:28:30,630 --> 00:28:28,240
that if they if i if i put them together

824
00:28:33,269 --> 00:28:30,640
depending on the separation the

825
00:28:35,669 --> 00:28:33,279
hesitation between each word

826
00:28:37,350 --> 00:28:35,679
they will mean opposite things

827
00:28:39,190 --> 00:28:37,360
so let me give you an example if i say

828
00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:39,200
to you

829
00:28:42,549 --> 00:28:41,200
ben

830
00:28:45,029 --> 00:28:42,559
don't stop

831
00:28:46,230 --> 00:28:45,039
what does that mean to you uh don't do

832
00:28:47,750 --> 00:28:46,240
that thing

833
00:28:49,029 --> 00:28:47,760
stop doing the thing

834
00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:49,039
and and

835
00:28:52,549 --> 00:28:50,320
let me ask you

836
00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:52,559
joe if if

837
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:54,640
let's let's say you were you were giving

838
00:29:00,789 --> 00:28:57,120
me a wonderful neck massage and i said

839
00:29:02,549 --> 00:29:00,799
don't don't stop don't stop

840
00:29:04,789 --> 00:29:02,559
what what does that do what does that

841
00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:04,799
mean to you if i say don't stop i'm

842
00:29:09,430 --> 00:29:06,480
going to keep on going baby you're going

843
00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:09,440
to keep the long going baby that's right

844
00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:10,240
right

845
00:29:14,710 --> 00:29:13,200
so you have to be careful even with

846
00:29:16,630 --> 00:29:14,720
saying

847
00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:16,640
words

848
00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:18,000
even

849
00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:24,000
have meaning they have implicit meaning

850
00:29:28,630 --> 00:29:25,840
so we have to be careful and that's why

851
00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:28,640
it's important i don't share personal

852
00:29:32,549 --> 00:29:30,480
observations because two different

853
00:29:33,510 --> 00:29:32,559
people may interpret the exact same

854
00:29:35,990 --> 00:29:33,520
words

855
00:29:37,029 --> 00:29:36,000
completely differently completely

856
00:29:39,029 --> 00:29:37,039
opposite

857
00:29:42,549 --> 00:29:39,039
and it's it's it's

858
00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:42,559
it's important that i you know yeah we

859
00:29:46,149 --> 00:29:44,080
draw that for example like if another

860
00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:46,159
way to say don't stop right if if i'm

861
00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:48,480
being assaulted i say don't stop you

862
00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:49,840
know i want you to stop what you're

863
00:29:52,789 --> 00:29:51,520
doing right right if you're going

864
00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:52,799
through let's say

865
00:29:58,149 --> 00:29:55,840
uh a stop sign i said don't stop

866
00:30:00,789 --> 00:29:58,159
like you said keep on going same exact

867
00:30:03,990 --> 00:30:00,799
words opposite meanings and so that's

868
00:30:05,029 --> 00:30:04,000
important now as far as as me personally

869
00:30:07,269 --> 00:30:05,039
um

870
00:30:09,990 --> 00:30:07,279
you know how do i

871
00:30:12,710 --> 00:30:10,000
do i hear things and and and and know

872
00:30:14,549 --> 00:30:12,720
things i mean well sure we all do i mean

873
00:30:16,789 --> 00:30:14,559
that was part of my job

874
00:30:19,510 --> 00:30:16,799
um but remember this is a journey we all

875
00:30:21,909 --> 00:30:19,520
have to be on it's it's not just

876
00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:21,919
your journey it's not just my journey

877
00:30:25,510 --> 00:30:24,480
it's it's everyone's journey and

878
00:30:30,149 --> 00:30:25,520
we

879
00:30:32,230 --> 00:30:30,159
there is no shortcut there's there's you

880
00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:32,240
know people unfortunately the way we are

881
00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:33,760
now in society

882
00:30:37,830 --> 00:30:36,480
i hate to use the term have it your way

883
00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:37,840
if i go much further than that i'll

884
00:30:40,470 --> 00:30:39,360
probably have to it'll be like a plug

885
00:30:41,190 --> 00:30:40,480
for a company so i'm not going to go

886
00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:41,200
there

887
00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:44,640
whataburger man yeah yeah you're keen

888
00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:47,200
we want things always done our way and

889
00:30:50,789 --> 00:30:48,880
we want it now right instant

890
00:30:52,389 --> 00:30:50,799
gratification

891
00:30:54,549 --> 00:30:52,399
this is not one of those topics where

892
00:30:56,470 --> 00:30:54,559
you want instant gratification i don't

893
00:30:57,909 --> 00:30:56,480
have all the answers nor if i did have

894
00:30:58,870 --> 00:30:57,919
all the answers would i necessarily give

895
00:31:00,950 --> 00:30:58,880
them to you

896
00:31:03,029 --> 00:31:00,960
because that's that's not helpful this

897
00:31:05,669 --> 00:31:03,039
this is a this is why i said disclosure

898
00:31:08,230 --> 00:31:05,679
is a process and not an event

899
00:31:10,230 --> 00:31:08,240
i firmly believe the only reason why we

900
00:31:12,149 --> 00:31:10,240
are here today as far as we are on this

901
00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:12,159
topic in the last three years which is

902
00:31:14,870 --> 00:31:13,440
by the way further than we've gone in

903
00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:14,880
the last 70 years

904
00:31:19,909 --> 00:31:17,039
is because this has been a process it's

905
00:31:21,990 --> 00:31:19,919
been a deliberate methodical process

906
00:31:23,269 --> 00:31:22,000
to have this conversation

907
00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:23,279
and you know there's people every day

908
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:25,600
that come to me now and say hey lou uh

909
00:31:28,310 --> 00:31:26,880
you know a year ago i was having this

910
00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:28,320
conversation around the water cooler

911
00:31:31,830 --> 00:31:30,000
everybody thought i was crazy now

912
00:31:34,230 --> 00:31:31,840
they're coming up to me and saying hey

913
00:31:35,669 --> 00:31:34,240
can you tell me more about that right so

914
00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:35,679
that's that's that's what's happening

915
00:31:40,630 --> 00:31:38,080
that's what's happening and you know i'm

916
00:31:42,389 --> 00:31:40,640
not sure if i answered your question but

917
00:31:44,710 --> 00:31:42,399
yeah literally definitely you literally

918
00:31:48,310 --> 00:31:44,720
can't though like you can't answer it

919
00:31:50,710 --> 00:31:48,320
like it's you sign a thing and uh yeah

920
00:31:53,750 --> 00:31:50,720
it's everybody's gonna want to know but

921
00:31:55,350 --> 00:31:53,760
man it must be hard not to let some

922
00:31:56,549 --> 00:31:55,360
information out like it would be so hard

923
00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:56,559
for me to

924
00:31:59,590 --> 00:31:57,840
not tell

925
00:32:02,549 --> 00:31:59,600
like don't trust me with anything i know

926
00:32:05,029 --> 00:32:02,559
this cool thing and i can't tell anybody

927
00:32:07,029 --> 00:32:05,039
okay okay but you can tell us this so

928
00:32:10,870 --> 00:32:07,039
lou you've seen our logo so you know we

929
00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:10,880
have like a hovering 64 impala on there

930
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:13,120
can we make that happen

931
00:32:16,789 --> 00:32:14,720
[Music]

932
00:32:19,110 --> 00:32:16,799
yeah sure you know force equals mass

933
00:32:21,430 --> 00:32:19,120
times acceleration you we put enough you

934
00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:21,440
know explosive under that car we can

935
00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:23,120
definitely make it levitate that's not a

936
00:32:27,830 --> 00:32:25,919
problem oh my gosh well let's do it and

937
00:32:29,669 --> 00:32:27,840
you just come for with a ride along with

938
00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:29,679
us man you're gonna have to share a seat

939
00:32:33,750 --> 00:32:31,200
with cinnamon terry in the background

940
00:32:35,190 --> 00:32:33,760
though hey man i love a 64 impala man

941
00:32:37,509 --> 00:32:35,200
and i also love my

942
00:32:40,310 --> 00:32:37,519
my my galaxies though that year of

943
00:32:43,350 --> 00:32:40,320
galaxy and the impounds were were bar

944
00:32:45,509 --> 00:32:43,360
none some of the most beautiful

945
00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:45,519
sporty cars i've ever seen in my life i

946
00:32:49,029 --> 00:32:46,799
just love

947
00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:49,039
those classic lines man it's just it's

948
00:32:51,590 --> 00:32:49,760
like

949
00:32:55,590 --> 00:32:51,600
oh man yeah they

950
00:32:57,029 --> 00:32:55,600
they are sexy man i uh i had a 1970 and

951
00:33:01,350 --> 00:32:57,039
it was a

952
00:33:03,269 --> 00:33:01,360
it was so nice i loved it it was like

953
00:33:06,070 --> 00:33:03,279
that seafoam green with like a hard

954
00:33:09,110 --> 00:33:06,080
white top on it it's just absolutely

955
00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:09,120
sexy man i love that car so can i can i

956
00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:10,799
can i ask you guys a personal question

957
00:33:12,950 --> 00:33:12,080
yeah what's up

958
00:33:16,230 --> 00:33:12,960
okay

959
00:33:18,950 --> 00:33:16,240
so i'm going to start with you ben

960
00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:18,960
you're you're the your most favorite car

961
00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:22,000
not that you owned the most favorite car

962
00:33:26,470 --> 00:33:24,000
ever for you what is if you could you

963
00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:26,480
could have any car in the world

964
00:33:31,750 --> 00:33:28,720
what would it be oh dang that's a great

965
00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:31,760
question okay so uh my dad was a classic

966
00:33:35,750 --> 00:33:34,159
car collector growing up so i've i've

967
00:33:37,190 --> 00:33:35,760
pretty much ridden in

968
00:33:39,830 --> 00:33:37,200
a lot of

969
00:33:42,470 --> 00:33:39,840
really awesome cars in my day

970
00:33:43,669 --> 00:33:42,480
my favorite one was the uh the it was

971
00:33:47,909 --> 00:33:43,679
the lincoln

972
00:33:58,870 --> 00:33:47,919
uh i believe it was a 68 lincoln with a

973
00:34:04,310 --> 00:34:01,029
lincoln continental dude

974
00:34:05,350 --> 00:34:04,320
yeah yeah maybe slam down two inches

975
00:34:07,430 --> 00:34:05,360
oh yeah

976
00:34:09,190 --> 00:34:07,440
all right so so joe you're next in the

977
00:34:12,149 --> 00:34:09,200
barrel you know i got to ask you what's

978
00:34:12,950 --> 00:34:12,159
what's your your favorite ride of all

979
00:34:16,230 --> 00:34:12,960
time

980
00:34:19,430 --> 00:34:16,240
man i'm a big fan of zz tops eliminator

981
00:34:21,909 --> 00:34:19,440
you know yeah dude yeah that's my jam

982
00:34:23,109 --> 00:34:21,919
for sure that and and i'm i'm a real big

983
00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:23,119
like

984
00:34:30,790 --> 00:34:28,480
the the 60s to 70s versions of

985
00:34:33,030 --> 00:34:30,800
of the impala and i really like these

986
00:34:35,829 --> 00:34:33,040
versions of like the buick regals

987
00:34:38,790 --> 00:34:35,839
oh yeah and uh man they're just really

988
00:34:41,109 --> 00:34:38,800
cool looking i i like big boat cars you

989
00:34:44,069 --> 00:34:41,119
know some cruisers i like big cruisers

990
00:34:45,669 --> 00:34:44,079
but you know hot rods and and and just

991
00:34:47,349 --> 00:34:45,679
rant rods and stuff like that are

992
00:34:48,790 --> 00:34:47,359
awesome well you know what they used to

993
00:34:51,430 --> 00:34:48,800
say about those big cars right there's

994
00:34:53,430 --> 00:34:51,440
no replacement for displacement so uh

995
00:34:56,149 --> 00:34:53,440
yeah yeah

996
00:34:58,230 --> 00:34:56,159
having those big 500 cubic inch engines

997
00:35:00,230 --> 00:34:58,240
man you know they weren't efficient but

998
00:35:02,470 --> 00:35:00,240
just tanks

999
00:35:04,710 --> 00:35:02,480
yeah you just rock back and forth at a

1000
00:35:07,349 --> 00:35:04,720
stop light for no reason there's a lot

1001
00:35:11,430 --> 00:35:09,510
yeah yeah and and i loved it too because

1002
00:35:13,589 --> 00:35:11,440
there was like even though it was there

1003
00:35:15,829 --> 00:35:13,599
were so many massive components you

1004
00:35:18,390 --> 00:35:15,839
could still get your hands in there and

1005
00:35:20,230 --> 00:35:18,400
work on it and like take it apart and do

1006
00:35:21,910 --> 00:35:20,240
fun stuff that's you know like with the

1007
00:35:23,589 --> 00:35:21,920
new cars it's just like it's all

1008
00:35:25,750 --> 00:35:23,599
computers and like unless you're like a

1009
00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:25,760
real mechanic you can't figure it out

1010
00:35:28,870 --> 00:35:27,839
well spark plugs used to be like this

1011
00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:28,880
big dude

1012
00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:30,560
the old ones you could literally read a

1013
00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:33,040
manual and be like okay so i i rinsed

1014
00:35:37,990 --> 00:35:35,200
this apart you know like you know you

1015
00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:38,000
had to do your own bondo and sanding and

1016
00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:39,839
all that stuff i mean it was cool those

1017
00:35:43,109 --> 00:35:42,400
old cars are where it's at you know

1018
00:35:44,790 --> 00:35:43,119
yeah

1019
00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:44,800
how about you man what what's your

1020
00:35:49,030 --> 00:35:47,680
what's your all-time uh go-to man you

1021
00:35:51,990 --> 00:35:49,040
know i could never afford something like

1022
00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:52,000
this but but if i if i could if i could

1023
00:35:56,310 --> 00:35:54,160
uh not worry about my security clearance

1024
00:35:59,910 --> 00:35:56,320
for a day and i could go steal a car

1025
00:36:03,829 --> 00:35:59,920
it would be a 1964 and a half

1026
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:03,839
uh ac shelby cobra with a 429 i'm sorry

1027
00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:06,480
427. oh sorry maybe not for you with a

1028
00:36:09,190 --> 00:36:07,920
427

1029
00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:09,200
uh

1030
00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:10,880
chat's going crazy yeah i know they're

1031
00:36:18,069 --> 00:36:15,520
like wow the 427 uh fe side oiler with a

1032
00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:18,079
six pack on top with uh for those who

1033
00:36:23,109 --> 00:36:20,160
not are accustomed to a six pack uh

1034
00:36:26,470 --> 00:36:23,119
three uh two barrel carburetors man with

1035
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:26,480
that with a nine inch rear end uh

1036
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:29,280
oh my gosh that's i at that point i will

1037
00:36:34,550 --> 00:36:32,640
be ready to to just just call it quits

1038
00:36:37,109 --> 00:36:34,560
and and stay and literally pull over the

1039
00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:37,119
side of the road and die right there yes

1040
00:36:40,390 --> 00:36:39,200
yes man i had a buddy growing up and his

1041
00:36:42,470 --> 00:36:40,400
dad owned a

1042
00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:42,480
garage he had he had built his own

1043
00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:44,480
garage he was going to start his own

1044
00:36:48,950 --> 00:36:47,040
business and so he started taking cars

1045
00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:48,960
for a while and then he just turned into

1046
00:36:53,829 --> 00:36:52,000
a you know a drag shop and so like

1047
00:36:55,589 --> 00:36:53,839
drag cars out there and it was so

1048
00:36:57,109 --> 00:36:55,599
awesome man just going out there and

1049
00:36:59,349 --> 00:36:57,119
getting to like just

1050
00:37:01,030 --> 00:36:59,359
open it up and see what you know piece

1051
00:37:04,470 --> 00:37:01,040
it all together like a little puzzle

1052
00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:04,480
yeah big old tires coffee and gasoline

1053
00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:06,160
man there is nothing like that in the

1054
00:37:11,589 --> 00:37:09,359
morning man yeah yeah it is awesome dude

1055
00:37:14,230 --> 00:37:11,599
so we gotta we gotta ask dan dan the

1056
00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:14,240
newsman he's uh waiting in the uh stream

1057
00:37:17,430 --> 00:37:15,680
yard we i gotta ask him what's his

1058
00:37:26,210 --> 00:37:17,440
favorite car so let's bring his dad

1059
00:37:26,220 --> 00:37:30,550
[Music]

1060
00:37:44,910 --> 00:37:32,750
is the news

1061
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,470
[Music]

1062
00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:49,990
i'm glad you guys are doing the singing

1063
00:37:54,710 --> 00:37:51,680
on me that makes a huge difference in

1064
00:37:57,030 --> 00:37:54,720
the quality of the content of the show

1065
00:37:58,230 --> 00:37:57,040
dan i almost jumped in but uh i didn't

1066
00:37:59,510 --> 00:37:58,240
watch

1067
00:38:01,750 --> 00:37:59,520
i didn't want to cause you guys to lose

1068
00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:01,760
any more viewers because my voice is

1069
00:38:06,470 --> 00:38:04,000
yeah at that point it sounds like uh you

1070
00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:06,480
know a dying cat so just

1071
00:38:11,829 --> 00:38:08,320
we all know

1072
00:38:14,150 --> 00:38:11,839
when he goes above my register luke

1073
00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:14,160
kicks in the harmonies yeah

1074
00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:16,400
yeah you know i i'm a percussionist i

1075
00:38:20,470 --> 00:38:18,480
can play drums but you do not want me on

1076
00:38:23,109 --> 00:38:20,480
vocals

1077
00:38:24,870 --> 00:38:23,119
he's a vocalist and i'm a bass player so

1078
00:38:26,870 --> 00:38:24,880
lou

1079
00:38:28,550 --> 00:38:26,880
hey man

1080
00:38:30,630 --> 00:38:28,560
let's do it

1081
00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:30,640
we can call ourselves rush it might be

1082
00:38:33,829 --> 00:38:33,119
somebody who does guitar too but

1083
00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:33,839
yeah

1084
00:38:37,589 --> 00:38:36,240
holy [\h__\h] that's awesome damn dan do you

1085
00:38:39,910 --> 00:38:37,599
play guitar tell us you play guitar

1086
00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:39,920
yourself uh air guitar is about as far

1087
00:38:44,069 --> 00:38:41,920
as i can go with any musical instrument

1088
00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:44,079
that has a whole area in front of it

1089
00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:45,760
you're a hype man i was gonna say we can

1090
00:38:50,230 --> 00:38:47,680
call tom but uh

1091
00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:50,240
yeah he's busy

1092
00:38:54,790 --> 00:38:51,839
that would be amazing though that would

1093
00:38:56,470 --> 00:38:54,800
be fun jam session dude yes let's make

1094
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:56,480
it happen well we sure as hell no he

1095
00:38:58,710 --> 00:38:57,370
can't sing right so

1096
00:39:06,069 --> 00:38:58,720
[Laughter]

1097
00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:10,710
my anthem to my growing up years man

1098
00:39:13,990 --> 00:39:12,240
what's up dan how are you doing today

1099
00:39:15,430 --> 00:39:14,000
man i'm doing pretty good just really

1100
00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:15,440
excited to get to talk to you finally

1101
00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:17,280
lou it's been i i've actually had you

1102
00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:18,880
answer some of my questions when you did

1103
00:39:22,710 --> 00:39:21,119
the ttsa talks so i've i've talked to

1104
00:39:25,349 --> 00:39:22,720
you electronically so many times it's

1105
00:39:27,030 --> 00:39:25,359
just i'm so happy to be able to finally

1106
00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:27,040
speak to you directly it's damn

1107
00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:29,040
treasure's mine pleasure's mine uh my

1108
00:39:33,670 --> 00:39:30,880
wife and i were just looking at your uh

1109
00:39:35,910 --> 00:39:33,680
your little promo for this uh a couple

1110
00:39:37,349 --> 00:39:35,920
hours ago and uh it's it's really my

1111
00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:37,359
pleasure it's really it's really a

1112
00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:38,880
thrill for me i was telling these guys

1113
00:39:44,069 --> 00:39:40,960
earlier that you guys are really part of

1114
00:39:46,630 --> 00:39:44,079
this this grassroots movement and uh

1115
00:39:50,230 --> 00:39:46,640
you're the ones making this happen uh

1116
00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:50,240
and and us either succeeding or or

1117
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:52,000
failing is is going to be a direct

1118
00:39:55,750 --> 00:39:54,160
result of of your involvement so my

1119
00:39:57,670 --> 00:39:55,760
hat's off to you thank you very much for

1120
00:39:59,430 --> 00:39:57,680
what you're doing dan uh it's it's

1121
00:40:01,430 --> 00:39:59,440
making a difference you you and your

1122
00:40:02,630 --> 00:40:01,440
supporters and your audiences and and

1123
00:40:04,630 --> 00:40:02,640
your friends

1124
00:40:06,710 --> 00:40:04,640
um it's all making a big difference well

1125
00:40:08,550 --> 00:40:06,720
it's it's not work when it's this much

1126
00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:08,560
fun is what i say like i don't know

1127
00:40:12,309 --> 00:40:10,240
about everyone else listen to this chat

1128
00:40:15,349 --> 00:40:12,319
right now but i enjoy this topic

1129
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:15,359
immensely it's not like studying

1130
00:40:18,870 --> 00:40:17,040
i got an engineering degree i had to

1131
00:40:20,309 --> 00:40:18,880
study my butt off for this

1132
00:40:21,910 --> 00:40:20,319
i

1133
00:40:24,710 --> 00:40:21,920
do not have to force myself to

1134
00:40:26,870 --> 00:40:24,720
investigate the ufo phenomena it is just

1135
00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:26,880
something that is called to me my entire

1136
00:40:29,510 --> 00:40:27,680
life

1137
00:40:31,589 --> 00:40:29,520
it is just something that's always good

1138
00:40:34,309 --> 00:40:31,599
it's had a hold of me and will never let

1139
00:40:37,109 --> 00:40:34,319
go and it's enjoyable it's a fun ride

1140
00:40:38,950 --> 00:40:37,119
and this is just a phenomenal time to be

1141
00:40:40,550 --> 00:40:38,960
involved with it and it isn't our

1142
00:40:42,550 --> 00:40:40,560
opportunity to be involved with it

1143
00:40:44,230 --> 00:40:42,560
because of people like you

1144
00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:44,240
uh well i appreciate that but i you know

1145
00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:45,920
again i'll turn that right back around

1146
00:40:50,309 --> 00:40:48,000
and say it's i'm involved in this

1147
00:40:53,670 --> 00:40:50,319
because of people like you so uh you

1148
00:40:56,710 --> 00:40:53,680
know there you go i'll i'll i'll see you

1149
00:40:58,710 --> 00:40:56,720
and and raise you five how about that

1150
00:41:02,309 --> 00:40:58,720
all right do we both get back rubs later

1151
00:41:03,829 --> 00:41:02,319
on for don't stop don't stop stop

1152
00:41:06,150 --> 00:41:03,839
saying don't stop

1153
00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:06,160
will we do it hey uh dan tell us about

1154
00:41:10,710 --> 00:41:08,560
your uh your uh little poster back there

1155
00:41:13,030 --> 00:41:10,720
dude oh that ah that's something that

1156
00:41:14,309 --> 00:41:13,040
somebody on ufo twitter of course the

1157
00:41:18,870 --> 00:41:14,319
the

1158
00:41:20,309 --> 00:41:18,880
with and i i want to say thank you to

1159
00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:20,319
whoever put that together but i couldn't

1160
00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:22,240
figure out who it was but yeah uh

1161
00:41:25,030 --> 00:41:23,760
somebody's somebody's been dropping

1162
00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:25,040
hints they're gonna be running for

1163
00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:26,720
president or something in the next

1164
00:41:31,349 --> 00:41:29,440
couple uh terms so i thought i'd go

1165
00:41:32,550 --> 00:41:31,359
ahead and get a poster made vermin

1166
00:41:33,670 --> 00:41:32,560
supreme

1167
00:41:36,470 --> 00:41:33,680
yeah

1168
00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:36,480
well you know uh three toothbrushes for

1169
00:41:42,309 --> 00:41:39,359
everyone yeah that's right

1170
00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:42,319
and mandatory goatees

1171
00:41:49,270 --> 00:41:45,680
you know guys i i um

1172
00:41:51,829 --> 00:41:49,280
i think sometimes you know i i i

1173
00:41:53,030 --> 00:41:51,839
i try not to get frustrated but uh when

1174
00:41:58,309 --> 00:41:53,040
i see

1175
00:42:01,750 --> 00:41:58,319
um overt or or or outwardly uh displays

1176
00:42:03,829 --> 00:42:01,760
of incompetence and and obfuscation

1177
00:42:05,349 --> 00:42:03,839
and people neglecting to do what they're

1178
00:42:07,990 --> 00:42:05,359
supposed to do especially in a

1179
00:42:09,990 --> 00:42:08,000
government role nothing incenses me more

1180
00:42:10,870 --> 00:42:10,000
and this function

1181
00:42:12,710 --> 00:42:10,880
uh

1182
00:42:14,829 --> 00:42:12,720
there's a lot of places where it sits

1183
00:42:16,230 --> 00:42:14,839
and and uh

1184
00:42:17,990 --> 00:42:16,240
i uh

1185
00:42:19,829 --> 00:42:18,000
you know i don't uh i don't i don't

1186
00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:19,839
support that you guys work very hard

1187
00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:21,760
everybody on this podcast works hard for

1188
00:42:26,550 --> 00:42:24,240
their money you pay a lot of tax dollars

1189
00:42:27,990 --> 00:42:26,560
to to hope that your government is doing

1190
00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:28,000
the right thing and most of the time it

1191
00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:28,880
does

1192
00:42:37,510 --> 00:42:34,480
me nothing incenses me more than

1193
00:42:39,990 --> 00:42:37,520
somebody who has taken a senior position

1194
00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:40,000
uh of responsibility and instead sees it

1195
00:42:45,910 --> 00:42:43,599
as a position of of privilege

1196
00:42:48,550 --> 00:42:45,920
there's there's no room for that and you

1197
00:42:50,069 --> 00:42:48,560
know i i

1198
00:42:51,430 --> 00:42:50,079
i guess sometimes when i when i don't

1199
00:42:53,990 --> 00:42:51,440
get enough sleep i get a little bit

1200
00:42:56,870 --> 00:42:54,000
grouchy and you know but i would

1201
00:42:59,190 --> 00:42:56,880
certainly if if things don't change

1202
00:43:01,510 --> 00:42:59,200
uh in

1203
00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:01,520
and soon in our government then you know

1204
00:43:07,349 --> 00:43:04,000
it forces people like me to

1205
00:43:09,910 --> 00:43:07,359
to take action and and uh you know if it

1206
00:43:10,950 --> 00:43:09,920
means having to run for for an office

1207
00:43:12,710 --> 00:43:10,960
somewhere

1208
00:43:14,470 --> 00:43:12,720
uh to make a difference you know i

1209
00:43:15,829 --> 00:43:14,480
certainly would it's not my first choice

1210
00:43:18,950 --> 00:43:15,839
you know my i would love to do nothing

1211
00:43:21,829 --> 00:43:18,960
more than fade off into the sunset and

1212
00:43:23,670 --> 00:43:21,839
maybe retire and rest one day um

1213
00:43:26,230 --> 00:43:23,680
but uh

1214
00:43:28,870 --> 00:43:26,240
you know i i'll i'll damn sure we'll put

1215
00:43:30,950 --> 00:43:28,880
my boots back on if i have to if if if

1216
00:43:33,030 --> 00:43:30,960
things don't change uh who's your who's

1217
00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:33,040
your vp

1218
00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:34,960
well you know i i was thinking just more

1219
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:45,670
you guys got it man sure absolutely put

1220
00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:47,280
you in charge you actually know what you

1221
00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:49,440
guys are going to be in charge of the

1222
00:43:55,109 --> 00:43:52,560
the motor fleet so all those

1223
00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:55,119
the beast that big uh souped up cadillac

1224
00:44:00,710 --> 00:43:58,880
and uh that's what that's what we'll do

1225
00:44:03,990 --> 00:44:00,720
replace the cadillac with the gran

1226
00:44:04,790 --> 00:44:04,000
torinos man hey look man you know let's

1227
00:44:07,109 --> 00:44:04,800
do it

1228
00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:07,119
let's have a whole fleet of 1974

1229
00:44:11,990 --> 00:44:09,839
bonnevilles you know i don't care

1230
00:44:14,790 --> 00:44:12,000
and we'll put dana's uh in charge of our

1231
00:44:17,030 --> 00:44:14,800
communications and and strategy

1232
00:44:19,109 --> 00:44:17,040
yeah yeah we gotta get something with

1233
00:44:22,870 --> 00:44:19,119
fins on the back man i don't know

1234
00:44:24,069 --> 00:44:22,880
1956 cadillac

1235
00:44:25,990 --> 00:44:24,079
so you know what i would do i'll tell

1236
00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:26,000
you guys i i probably shouldn't say this

1237
00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:27,359
i'm gonna piss a whole lot of people off

1238
00:44:29,349 --> 00:44:28,240
but

1239
00:44:31,109 --> 00:44:29,359
uh

1240
00:44:33,349 --> 00:44:31,119
god forbid somebody in government ever

1241
00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:33,359
asked me to to to go back into

1242
00:44:37,349 --> 00:44:35,440
government and and be a senior in a

1243
00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:37,359
senior position because

1244
00:44:40,550 --> 00:44:39,280
it would be it would be draconian the

1245
00:44:42,630 --> 00:44:40,560
first thing i'm going to do is i'm going

1246
00:44:44,630 --> 00:44:42,640
to tell all these sess

1247
00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:44,640
uh you like that pretty little car that

1248
00:44:48,630 --> 00:44:46,319
you have taking you all over the place

1249
00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:48,640
and the limousine and the driver no more

1250
00:44:52,870 --> 00:44:50,560
uh you get to drive your little toyota

1251
00:44:54,710 --> 00:44:52,880
prius like everybody else all right no

1252
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:54,720
one's gonna pay for that and by the way

1253
00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:56,400
if you insist on having a car because

1254
00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:58,880
you are senior enough there's a humvee

1255
00:45:02,710 --> 00:45:00,800
sitting right out there and you can go

1256
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:02,720
in that humvee how about that yeah

1257
00:45:05,670 --> 00:45:04,720
there's no cushions or airbags you can

1258
00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:05,680
take it

1259
00:45:10,150 --> 00:45:07,440
nope and by the way you have to wear a

1260
00:45:11,270 --> 00:45:10,160
kevlar when you go to your meeting

1261
00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:11,280
i'm telling you and the parking

1262
00:45:14,630 --> 00:45:12,720
situation where you have all these

1263
00:45:16,069 --> 00:45:14,640
because i grew up in that that system

1264
00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:16,079
where you know the higher rank you got

1265
00:45:18,470 --> 00:45:17,599
the closer you were to the pentagon and

1266
00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:18,480
all that

1267
00:45:23,109 --> 00:45:20,400
i would say look first come first serve

1268
00:45:26,069 --> 00:45:23,119
you know if you've got some some gs9 or

1269
00:45:27,829 --> 00:45:26,079
some some sergeant that gets to work

1270
00:45:29,190 --> 00:45:27,839
sooner than you then guess what they're

1271
00:45:31,670 --> 00:45:29,200
going to get the part closer than you

1272
00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:31,680
and you can walk your way all the way to

1273
00:45:34,550 --> 00:45:32,640
the to

1274
00:45:36,630 --> 00:45:34,560
to work you know no no such thing as

1275
00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:36,640
reserve parking and all that all that

1276
00:45:40,309 --> 00:45:38,400
crap um

1277
00:45:41,589 --> 00:45:40,319
i probably wouldn't be very popular

1278
00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:41,599
let's just put it that way there's a lot

1279
00:45:45,510 --> 00:45:43,520
of things i would do differently

1280
00:45:46,630 --> 00:45:45,520
you could ride a bike

1281
00:45:51,510 --> 00:45:46,640
yeah

1282
00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:53,910
it'll be schwinn's dude old schwinn's

1283
00:45:56,790 --> 00:45:54,880
man

1284
00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:56,800
nancy pelosi battery your bike's over

1285
00:46:00,390 --> 00:45:57,599
there

1286
00:46:01,990 --> 00:46:00,400
yeah that's right hey you know yours is

1287
00:46:03,349 --> 00:46:02,000
way over there sorry because you know

1288
00:46:05,589 --> 00:46:03,359
you didn't come to work early enough

1289
00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:05,599
yeah yeah it's hilarious dude so uh i

1290
00:46:10,710 --> 00:46:07,920
just want to say like dan you man

1291
00:46:12,550 --> 00:46:10,720
obviously uh you know this but lou

1292
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:12,560
dan reached out to me and said hey i

1293
00:46:16,069 --> 00:46:14,480
know you would love to have we've been

1294
00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:16,079
talking about having you on and reaching

1295
00:46:19,510 --> 00:46:17,920
out and dan goes dude he's a gearhead

1296
00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:19,520
you should talk about like reach out to

1297
00:46:22,950 --> 00:46:21,440
him via email say something about like

1298
00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:22,960
hey so you want to come on the show and

1299
00:46:26,790 --> 00:46:24,640
talk about cars for a little bit yeah

1300
00:46:29,510 --> 00:46:26,800
you got to meet him somehow right

1301
00:46:31,829 --> 00:46:29,520
dude so we have to thank dan for that so

1302
00:46:33,829 --> 00:46:31,839
dan thank you for that and uh i know it

1303
00:46:35,349 --> 00:46:33,839
and i you have such great questions and

1304
00:46:37,109 --> 00:46:35,359
your research is phenomenal i know you

1305
00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:37,119
have a couple of questions and uh dude

1306
00:46:41,270 --> 00:46:39,440
yeah the first one i haven't seen

1307
00:46:43,670 --> 00:46:41,280
anybody challenge you on your gear head

1308
00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:43,680
status it's just they're taking it as a

1309
00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:45,119
as a known so i'm gonna ask you a

1310
00:46:48,470 --> 00:46:46,720
question no you gotta you gotta earn it

1311
00:46:50,390 --> 00:46:48,480
i'm with you brother i'm with you it's

1312
00:46:52,069 --> 00:46:50,400
i'm i don't consider myself a gear head

1313
00:46:54,150 --> 00:46:52,079
but a car guy so i'm gonna ask you

1314
00:46:56,230 --> 00:46:54,160
something that means something to me and

1315
00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:56,240
it's gonna tell me your preferences but

1316
00:47:00,950 --> 00:46:58,079
uh what is better

1317
00:47:03,190 --> 00:47:00,960
high beams on the tree or the floor

1318
00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:03,200
oh come on man

1319
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:06,400
this is gray not blonde dude

1320
00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:09,280
on the floor it's kind of yes otherwise

1321
00:47:13,870 --> 00:47:11,440
you know otherwise it's it's you know

1322
00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:13,880
it's it's it's a 19 it's it's after

1323
00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:15,680
1977. i mean

1324
00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:17,280
that that was

1325
00:47:20,630 --> 00:47:19,119
very few or well i could ask you a

1326
00:47:22,069 --> 00:47:20,640
question i'm definitely this is well

1327
00:47:27,190 --> 00:47:22,079
before your time

1328
00:47:30,069 --> 00:47:28,069
uh

1329
00:47:31,910 --> 00:47:30,079
fm dials with the buttons you have to

1330
00:47:33,990 --> 00:47:31,920
push really hard to get this get to the

1331
00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:34,000
right station actually you have to pull

1332
00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:36,160
first to set it remember and then push

1333
00:47:41,990 --> 00:47:39,200
it in oh man those are the old analog

1334
00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:42,000
radius apps oh yeah i remember this

1335
00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:42,960
yes

1336
00:47:46,230 --> 00:47:44,880
man i couldn't imagine the a-track like

1337
00:47:47,589 --> 00:47:46,240
you're like we have to listen to the

1338
00:47:49,270 --> 00:47:47,599
whole thing

1339
00:47:50,549 --> 00:47:49,280
nope you could actually press a button

1340
00:47:52,230 --> 00:47:50,559
and it would automatically play the

1341
00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:52,240
opposite side so you only had to listen

1342
00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:54,400
to half the song on the other side

1343
00:48:00,309 --> 00:47:56,880
before you could replay your song

1344
00:48:02,390 --> 00:48:00,319
so so inconvenient no wonder that

1345
00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:02,400
the first thing steve jobs did was like

1346
00:48:07,750 --> 00:48:05,760
hey let's like improve that

1347
00:48:11,270 --> 00:48:07,760
well i'll tell you where i live out here

1348
00:48:14,230 --> 00:48:11,280
in wyoming i've got this uh i've got a

1349
00:48:16,230 --> 00:48:14,240
action so my family calls me a freaking

1350
00:48:17,589 --> 00:48:16,240
because i not a vegan but a freaking

1351
00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:17,599
because i love

1352
00:48:22,630 --> 00:48:20,240
buying cars for for cheap that's it's

1353
00:48:24,549 --> 00:48:22,640
for me i just i i guess i get some sort

1354
00:48:26,150 --> 00:48:24,559
of weird pleasure out of it because if

1355
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:26,160
the cheaper the car

1356
00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:28,960
the the better i feel and i can i can i

1357
00:48:32,470 --> 00:48:30,640
can you know take someone's garbage and

1358
00:48:35,109 --> 00:48:32,480
turn it to something great so yeah i've

1359
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:35,119
got an old dually here uh that i bought

1360
00:48:41,109 --> 00:48:37,440
for one dollar one dollar

1361
00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:41,119
uh it had uh very low mileage on a 773

1362
00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:44,880
diesel power stroke um 1996 so had like

1363
00:48:50,390 --> 00:48:46,559
the first second year it had really had

1364
00:48:52,870 --> 00:48:50,400
even a turbo on it uh and uh i actually

1365
00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:52,880
wound up restoring it and i used it to

1366
00:48:56,710 --> 00:48:54,559
pull my rv all over the country and i

1367
00:48:58,069 --> 00:48:56,720
paid a buck for it uh the truck i'm

1368
00:49:00,950 --> 00:48:58,079
driving now i still have the truck i'm

1369
00:49:02,390 --> 00:49:00,960
driving now i got for free it was a 1998

1370
00:49:03,309 --> 00:49:02,400
dodge ram

1371
00:49:06,069 --> 00:49:03,319
with the

1372
00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:06,079
365.9 in it and it was being used as a

1373
00:49:09,589 --> 00:49:07,680
garbage truck and it was purple

1374
00:49:12,710 --> 00:49:09,599
literally barney purple

1375
00:49:13,670 --> 00:49:12,720
and i got it for free and it had uh you

1376
00:49:17,349 --> 00:49:13,680
know

1377
00:49:20,950 --> 00:49:18,950
but i got it for free and so i restored

1378
00:49:22,790 --> 00:49:20,960
it and i shot it flat black i put a

1379
00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:22,800
three inch lift on it and i use it now

1380
00:49:26,870 --> 00:49:24,720
here in the mountains and it is that i

1381
00:49:28,470 --> 00:49:26,880
got a big side exhaust on it it is the

1382
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:28,480
baddest thing you've ever seen that's

1383
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:30,720
and i got

1384
00:49:34,950 --> 00:49:32,880
and you're posting those on twitter

1385
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:34,960
tomorrow or tonight yeah seriously i

1386
00:49:38,710 --> 00:49:36,960
know uh well you know i'll tell you what

1387
00:49:40,790 --> 00:49:38,720
if you guys ever come out here i got a

1388
00:49:42,950 --> 00:49:40,800
out here in wyoming everything is super

1389
00:49:44,309 --> 00:49:42,960
cheap so i got a house here that had a

1390
00:49:46,069 --> 00:49:44,319
the garage is actually bigger than the

1391
00:49:48,069 --> 00:49:46,079
house pretty much but it's a big you

1392
00:49:50,470 --> 00:49:48,079
know metal workshop

1393
00:49:53,109 --> 00:49:50,480
and i've got some uh some old uh i got a

1394
00:49:55,030 --> 00:49:53,119
world war ii and a korean war jeep uh

1395
00:49:57,270 --> 00:49:55,040
because i love jeeps um

1396
00:49:59,829 --> 00:49:57,280
love love my jeeps man love them

1397
00:50:02,390 --> 00:49:59,839
and those little uh those old old war

1398
00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:02,400
girls we call them uh won the war and

1399
00:50:04,950 --> 00:50:03,520
when you look at them they're super

1400
00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:04,960
simple they really got just a tiny

1401
00:50:08,309 --> 00:50:06,400
little four-cylinder

1402
00:50:09,430 --> 00:50:08,319
hurricane block with either an f-head or

1403
00:50:11,030 --> 00:50:09,440
an l head

1404
00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:11,040
and uh you know it looks it looks like

1405
00:50:14,549 --> 00:50:12,640
it's like a john deere tractor motor

1406
00:50:17,349 --> 00:50:14,559
really it's that it's the whole motor is

1407
00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:17,359
literally probably this big wow uh and

1408
00:50:22,390 --> 00:50:18,319
uh

1409
00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:22,400
yeah yeah yeah they all had the fall

1410
00:50:26,790 --> 00:50:25,119
down windshield uh but it they're just

1411
00:50:28,150 --> 00:50:26,800
so great because you can

1412
00:50:29,750 --> 00:50:28,160
there's no restrictions out here you can

1413
00:50:32,069 --> 00:50:29,760
drive anywhere the heck you want to go

1414
00:50:33,750 --> 00:50:32,079
that's cool put the windshields down and

1415
00:50:36,309 --> 00:50:33,760
you know stick your legs out on the side

1416
00:50:38,309 --> 00:50:36,319
and just it's it's total freedom

1417
00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:38,319
that's sick that is awesome my dad had a

1418
00:50:42,870 --> 00:50:40,480
jeep commando growing up it was uh the

1419
00:50:44,230 --> 00:50:42,880
sand gold color man

1420
00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:44,240
actually learned how to drive on that

1421
00:50:47,910 --> 00:50:45,680
thing dude it was it was a super fun

1422
00:50:49,430 --> 00:50:47,920
little car and then well i'll tell you

1423
00:50:51,829 --> 00:50:49,440
they're going for a lot of money now a

1424
00:50:54,390 --> 00:50:51,839
lot of those old amc you know american

1425
00:50:56,630 --> 00:50:54,400
motor company vehicles uh before they

1426
00:50:59,589 --> 00:50:56,640
were sold and rebranded are actually

1427
00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:59,599
going for a lot of money now yeah

1428
00:51:02,470 --> 00:51:01,200
just about everything's going for a lot

1429
00:51:04,549 --> 00:51:02,480
of money now

1430
00:51:07,030 --> 00:51:04,559
anyway go to lowe's and now that's true

1431
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:07,040
verify that seriously

1432
00:51:10,230 --> 00:51:08,720
that's true yeah lumber's gone through

1433
00:51:11,670 --> 00:51:10,240
the roof

1434
00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:11,680
no pun intended but

1435
00:51:15,910 --> 00:51:14,160
it really it really has it's uh yeah

1436
00:51:17,430 --> 00:51:15,920
it's it's gotten very expensive i'm

1437
00:51:19,510 --> 00:51:17,440
doing a little project here and i went

1438
00:51:20,470 --> 00:51:19,520
to to a local place to pick up some

1439
00:51:22,230 --> 00:51:20,480
lumber

1440
00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:22,240
and i couldn't believe it i said no i'm

1441
00:51:26,870 --> 00:51:23,920
buying i'm buying two by fours i'm not

1442
00:51:28,470 --> 00:51:26,880
buying steel you know i-beams yeah yeah

1443
00:51:30,549 --> 00:51:28,480
you must have something wrong you have a

1444
00:51:33,190 --> 00:51:30,559
couple decimal places incorrect here you

1445
00:51:35,349 --> 00:51:33,200
know yeah it's insane i do i do like uh

1446
00:51:37,670 --> 00:51:35,359
landscaping and like everything i mean

1447
00:51:39,910 --> 00:51:37,680
we're talking lumber metal plants like

1448
00:51:43,589 --> 00:51:39,920
everything is so expensive like

1449
00:51:46,630 --> 00:51:43,599
literally last year to today it's like

1450
00:51:49,109 --> 00:51:46,640
200 percent more cost yeah literally in

1451
00:51:51,430 --> 00:51:49,119
like a year it's just insane to watch

1452
00:51:53,109 --> 00:51:51,440
that happen you're like whoa that's nuts

1453
00:51:54,950 --> 00:51:53,119
are you guys using uh in your

1454
00:51:57,829 --> 00:51:54,960
landscaping like backhoes and things

1455
00:51:59,190 --> 00:51:57,839
like that or oh yeah is it mostly yeah

1456
00:52:00,870 --> 00:51:59,200
yeah

1457
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:00,880
it's like what are you using i gotta ask

1458
00:52:06,470 --> 00:52:04,000
are using kubota what what what type of

1459
00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:06,480
uh we use a we use a deer and a ditch

1460
00:52:09,990 --> 00:52:07,440
which

1461
00:52:12,069 --> 00:52:10,000
oh yeah both look really good wow

1462
00:52:13,030 --> 00:52:12,079
i thought it was a ford man ain't no

1463
00:52:14,309 --> 00:52:13,040
four

1464
00:52:16,069 --> 00:52:14,319
no no

1465
00:52:20,390 --> 00:52:16,079
yeah

1466
00:52:23,190 --> 00:52:20,400
high-end stuff so we do like like

1467
00:52:25,349 --> 00:52:23,200
100-yard like waterfalls like off cliffs

1468
00:52:27,670 --> 00:52:25,359
and stuff it's it's pretty nice

1469
00:52:31,270 --> 00:52:27,680
so but yeah so building materials have

1470
00:52:33,270 --> 00:52:31,280
went up like you know a lot a lot

1471
00:52:35,829 --> 00:52:33,280
so dan i got to ask you man what's which

1472
00:52:37,670 --> 00:52:35,839
i've asked uh uh already ben and joe

1473
00:52:40,390 --> 00:52:37,680
what their favorite car is

1474
00:52:41,589 --> 00:52:40,400
you know i i know you're an engineer but

1475
00:52:43,349 --> 00:52:41,599
and this will tell me a little bit about

1476
00:52:44,950 --> 00:52:43,359
kind of how you think what's

1477
00:52:47,190 --> 00:52:44,960
what if you could have any car forget

1478
00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:47,200
about price you were king for a day what

1479
00:52:51,270 --> 00:52:49,200
is the one car

1480
00:52:52,790 --> 00:52:51,280
you and you can only get one but you

1481
00:52:55,430 --> 00:52:52,800
could have it forever what's the one car

1482
00:53:01,270 --> 00:52:55,440
you would get am i a single king for the

1483
00:53:04,470 --> 00:53:02,790
i'm going to answer that as married

1484
00:53:06,630 --> 00:53:04,480
because i want to stay married so i'm

1485
00:53:09,910 --> 00:53:06,640
going to have to go

1486
00:53:15,109 --> 00:53:09,920
like in 1972 1970 yeah let's stay with

1487
00:53:17,990 --> 00:53:15,119
72 a k5 blazer with a removable top

1488
00:53:20,630 --> 00:53:18,000
that's the ideal uh vehicle for me i

1489
00:53:23,109 --> 00:53:20,640
have a 1988 ford bronco right now that

1490
00:53:26,790 --> 00:53:23,119
i've restored uh but man those the

1491
00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:26,800
grills on those uh k5 blazers just that

1492
00:53:30,549 --> 00:53:29,040
was that was it oh my gosh

1493
00:53:32,630 --> 00:53:30,559
man what do you have in the bronx is

1494
00:53:33,990 --> 00:53:32,640
that a 302 in there yeah yeah three or

1495
00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:34,000
two

1496
00:53:38,230 --> 00:53:36,480
and i took it i did what you did i took

1497
00:53:41,190 --> 00:53:38,240
i got it off i work at a university i

1498
00:53:43,510 --> 00:53:41,200
got it off a college student for low and

1499
00:53:46,069 --> 00:53:43,520
just put a little bit of heart and uh

1500
00:53:47,270 --> 00:53:46,079
effort into it and it's refurbished and

1501
00:53:49,910 --> 00:53:47,280
looks

1502
00:53:51,109 --> 00:53:49,920
sparkling brand new uh

1503
00:53:52,230 --> 00:53:51,119
that was one of the first communities

1504
00:53:54,390 --> 00:53:52,240
that helped me work on the engine

1505
00:53:55,510 --> 00:53:54,400
sometime though they did yeah anytime

1506
00:53:57,990 --> 00:53:55,520
come up here man we'll put it in the

1507
00:53:59,670 --> 00:53:58,000
shop does that have did that have uh uh

1508
00:54:02,230 --> 00:53:59,680
fuel injection or with that stuff

1509
00:54:05,270 --> 00:54:02,240
yeah it's efi so i i it's the first

1510
00:54:06,870 --> 00:54:05,280
years of ef5k

1511
00:54:09,030 --> 00:54:06,880
it's better it's it's a

1512
00:54:12,069 --> 00:54:09,040
i had an old 84 mustang

1513
00:54:15,109 --> 00:54:12,079
that had uh a 302 but super at the time

1514
00:54:18,069 --> 00:54:15,119
super anemic engine 174 horsepower

1515
00:54:19,990 --> 00:54:18,079
it had uh you know that old dura spark

1516
00:54:21,270 --> 00:54:20,000
ignition system so i ripped the motor

1517
00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:21,280
out and i wound up putting some really

1518
00:54:24,549 --> 00:54:22,480
super hot

1519
00:54:25,750 --> 00:54:24,559
engine in it and uh you know i didn't do

1520
00:54:26,950 --> 00:54:25,760
it right this is these are the lessons

1521
00:54:27,990 --> 00:54:26,960
you learn as a kid right when you're a

1522
00:54:30,549 --> 00:54:28,000
gear head

1523
00:54:31,750 --> 00:54:30,559
so uh that little that little unibody uh

1524
00:54:33,030 --> 00:54:31,760
was never designed really to have a

1525
00:54:35,190 --> 00:54:33,040
whole lot of horsepower unless you

1526
00:54:37,109 --> 00:54:35,200
really tie it down sub frame supports

1527
00:54:39,750 --> 00:54:37,119
and you know cross beams and all that

1528
00:54:41,510 --> 00:54:39,760
uh you know the the you have the the

1529
00:54:43,349 --> 00:54:41,520
struts the tower struts and you have to

1530
00:54:44,630 --> 00:54:43,359
you have to brace those down i didn't do

1531
00:54:46,230 --> 00:54:44,640
any of that i just thought i could put a

1532
00:54:49,510 --> 00:54:46,240
whole lot of horsepower in this car and

1533
00:54:54,309 --> 00:54:52,230
and so i remember after the first month

1534
00:54:55,829 --> 00:54:54,319
uh i noticed that the car wasn't riding

1535
00:54:57,430 --> 00:54:55,839
right in fact the whole car was kind of

1536
00:54:59,589 --> 00:54:57,440
kind of lopsided

1537
00:55:00,390 --> 00:54:59,599
and i remember getting to a to a traffic

1538
00:55:01,910 --> 00:55:00,400
light

1539
00:55:03,190 --> 00:55:01,920
and um

1540
00:55:04,549 --> 00:55:03,200
god how embarrassing i don't even know

1541
00:55:06,549 --> 00:55:04,559
if i should say this but

1542
00:55:08,470 --> 00:55:06,559
i was trying to impress uh a member of

1543
00:55:09,270 --> 00:55:08,480
the opposite sex that happened to be you

1544
00:55:11,510 --> 00:55:09,280
know

1545
00:55:15,190 --> 00:55:11,520
across from me so i came looking for a

1546
00:55:17,910 --> 00:55:15,200
queen yeah yeah yeah and so uh in this

1547
00:55:20,870 --> 00:55:17,920
case uh i you know gave a gash and all

1548
00:55:23,270 --> 00:55:20,880
of a sudden i heard this big kabang

1549
00:55:26,789 --> 00:55:23,280
and uh two of my windows blew out

1550
00:55:29,109 --> 00:55:26,799
because the body had twisted so bad

1551
00:55:30,630 --> 00:55:29,119
the windows blew out of the car

1552
00:55:31,589 --> 00:55:30,640
oh

1553
00:55:32,710 --> 00:55:31,599
yeah

1554
00:55:34,470 --> 00:55:32,720
so

1555
00:55:36,309 --> 00:55:34,480
let's just say i was single that night i

1556
00:55:37,829 --> 00:55:36,319
didn't um

1557
00:55:40,470 --> 00:55:37,839
i failed in my mission

1558
00:55:41,670 --> 00:55:40,480
you were like so were you still on earth

1559
00:55:45,589 --> 00:55:41,680
yeah

1560
00:55:48,870 --> 00:55:45,599
yes

1561
00:55:51,750 --> 00:55:48,880
oh man that's terrible

1562
00:55:53,510 --> 00:55:51,760
some of life lessons right man yeah i've

1563
00:55:54,390 --> 00:55:53,520
man i've had a window broken out in my

1564
00:55:56,549 --> 00:55:54,400
car

1565
00:55:58,950 --> 00:55:56,559
uh when i was downtown and it was

1566
00:56:00,230 --> 00:55:58,960
actually in my impala somebody somebody

1567
00:56:02,309 --> 00:56:00,240
had taken a

1568
00:56:04,150 --> 00:56:02,319
a massive rock and threw it through my

1569
00:56:06,390 --> 00:56:04,160
windshield

1570
00:56:09,190 --> 00:56:06,400
and it was it was really shitty because

1571
00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:09,200
the car was unlocked so like i mean

1572
00:56:12,630 --> 00:56:10,480
i wish

1573
00:56:14,390 --> 00:56:12,640
and because open the door seriously and

1574
00:56:16,710 --> 00:56:14,400
the first time they missed and they hit

1575
00:56:18,630 --> 00:56:16,720
the body and put a giant dent in it and

1576
00:56:21,190 --> 00:56:18,640
then they smash the windshield it's like

1577
00:56:22,789 --> 00:56:21,200
the the front windshield is like one of

1578
00:56:25,270 --> 00:56:22,799
the biggest pieces on the whole car and

1579
00:56:26,789 --> 00:56:25,280
you completely missed it you hit the car

1580
00:56:29,750 --> 00:56:26,799
and the doors were unlocked and they

1581
00:56:35,589 --> 00:56:29,760
stole all my my all my music oh your

1582
00:56:40,069 --> 00:56:37,990
so many gushers in there man all my

1583
00:56:42,230 --> 00:56:40,079
little odor trees they're gone

1584
00:56:43,270 --> 00:56:42,240
on forever everything yeah what is it

1585
00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:43,280
about like

1586
00:56:46,549 --> 00:56:44,880
all they left was these parking tickets

1587
00:56:48,470 --> 00:56:46,559
in my glove box

1588
00:56:50,470 --> 00:56:48,480
you ever noticed like you never see just

1589
00:56:52,710 --> 00:56:50,480
one uh odor tree there's always like

1590
00:56:55,030 --> 00:56:52,720
multiple it's like once one loses its

1591
00:56:56,470 --> 00:56:55,040
smell you just keep adding more like

1592
00:56:58,069 --> 00:56:56,480
older trees

1593
00:56:59,349 --> 00:56:58,079
it's such a pain in the ass to get it on

1594
00:57:01,349 --> 00:56:59,359
and off because it gets stuck on that

1595
00:57:03,670 --> 00:57:01,359
little hook in the back back in the day

1596
00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:03,680
for us as as as young ages it was kind

1597
00:57:07,430 --> 00:57:05,680
of a thing for us when you saw a car

1598
00:57:09,510 --> 00:57:07,440
rolling down uh with with a whole lot of

1599
00:57:10,390 --> 00:57:09,520
those odor trees uh you were kind of

1600
00:57:14,950 --> 00:57:10,400
like

1601
00:57:19,910 --> 00:57:17,349
trying to uh uh you know cover the smell

1602
00:57:22,950 --> 00:57:19,920
of something else uh that probably at

1603
00:57:25,109 --> 00:57:22,960
the time was uh was a bit frowned upon

1604
00:57:28,150 --> 00:57:25,119
then it smells like like new car smell

1605
00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:28,160
and weeds like yeah

1606
00:57:32,230 --> 00:57:29,440
you're kind of like i think i prefer the

1607
00:57:36,549 --> 00:57:33,750
yeah it's um

1608
00:57:37,589 --> 00:57:36,559
it was uh it was funny those are times

1609
00:57:39,510 --> 00:57:37,599
uh

1610
00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:39,520
we i guess we still do the same things

1611
00:57:43,910 --> 00:57:41,280
today don't we with the with those odor

1612
00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:43,920
trees and whatnot oh yeah yeah yeah they

1613
00:57:47,349 --> 00:57:44,880
have this

1614
00:57:48,710 --> 00:57:47,359
that is really neat stuff now it it's

1615
00:57:51,430 --> 00:57:48,720
like uh

1616
00:57:54,470 --> 00:57:51,440
man it evaporates the smell like crazy

1617
00:57:55,990 --> 00:57:54,480
it's wild oh museum i think that's what

1618
00:57:57,510 --> 00:57:56,000
it is

1619
00:57:59,750 --> 00:57:57,520
or you just wait till christmas to bring

1620
00:58:03,109 --> 00:57:59,760
the christmas tree inside and then like

1621
00:58:06,470 --> 00:58:04,549
so i've got a question for you guys a

1622
00:58:08,789 --> 00:58:06,480
very serious question because i

1623
00:58:10,710 --> 00:58:08,799
i'm trying to understand the mind of of

1624
00:58:13,349 --> 00:58:10,720
of of one of my daughters

1625
00:58:16,069 --> 00:58:13,359
uh i have no daughter that no answers no

1626
00:58:18,150 --> 00:58:16,079
right yeah this is to figure out women

1627
00:58:19,990 --> 00:58:18,160
well dan honestly this is how how i mean

1628
00:58:21,109 --> 00:58:20,000
if you ever want proof that that there's

1629
00:58:22,950 --> 00:58:21,119
you know

1630
00:58:24,309 --> 00:58:22,960
alien life in the universe just just

1631
00:58:26,150 --> 00:58:24,319
have a kid have a daughter and you

1632
00:58:27,829 --> 00:58:26,160
notice at 12 years old

1633
00:58:29,349 --> 00:58:27,839
something happens to them they they get

1634
00:58:30,870 --> 00:58:29,359
abducted and they get replaced by

1635
00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:30,880
something and when they're 21 all of a

1636
00:58:34,150 --> 00:58:32,640
sudden they come back and you're like

1637
00:58:40,789 --> 00:58:34,160
where the hell were you oh my gosh you

1638
00:58:44,710 --> 00:58:42,309
well then you're about to you're about

1639
00:58:46,789 --> 00:58:44,720
to experience this too my question is um

1640
00:58:49,510 --> 00:58:46,799
why do some young people

1641
00:58:50,470 --> 00:58:49,520
why does their automobile also become

1642
00:58:56,789 --> 00:58:50,480
their

1643
00:58:59,670 --> 00:58:56,799
i went to go visit my daughter just just

1644
00:59:01,910 --> 00:58:59,680
just not too long ago a couple weeks ago

1645
00:59:04,150 --> 00:59:01,920
on the east coast and uh

1646
00:59:05,349 --> 00:59:04,160
i noticed as i'm sitting in the seat i'm

1647
00:59:07,109 --> 00:59:05,359
hearing all this crunching and

1648
00:59:08,870 --> 00:59:07,119
scrunching there's a styrofoam cup and

1649
00:59:10,630 --> 00:59:08,880
there's a you know a big gulp and a

1650
00:59:12,630 --> 00:59:10,640
slurpee and

1651
00:59:15,030 --> 00:59:12,640
they're not even empty they still have

1652
00:59:16,870 --> 00:59:15,040
like like slurpee inside of them and

1653
00:59:18,710 --> 00:59:16,880
there's all sorts of paper and it

1654
00:59:21,190 --> 00:59:18,720
literally looks like a hamster's nest

1655
00:59:24,069 --> 00:59:21,200
like literally like a hamster's nest and

1656
00:59:25,910 --> 00:59:24,079
i said sweetheart

1657
00:59:29,589 --> 00:59:25,920
why don't you clean your your car out

1658
00:59:31,030 --> 00:59:29,599
she's like oh i did i did yesterday dad

1659
00:59:32,710 --> 00:59:31,040
honey there's not even enough room for

1660
00:59:34,309 --> 00:59:32,720
your mother to to sit

1661
00:59:36,710 --> 00:59:34,319
next to me at the airport you we had to

1662
00:59:38,390 --> 00:59:36,720
put her in the trunk i mean this is

1663
00:59:40,549 --> 00:59:38,400
she said i'm not done with that i'm did

1664
00:59:41,829 --> 00:59:40,559
the flavor's still there in this therapy

1665
00:59:43,589 --> 00:59:41,839
yeah exactly

1666
00:59:45,270 --> 00:59:43,599
is that is that is that common or is

1667
00:59:47,589 --> 00:59:45,280
that just something that that i'm

1668
00:59:49,750 --> 00:59:47,599
experiencing as a dad and i'm just you

1669
00:59:51,349 --> 00:59:49,760
know i just have a weird family

1670
00:59:54,069 --> 00:59:51,359
i don't think your daughters will ever

1671
00:59:56,309 --> 00:59:54,079
live up to your car aficionado

1672
00:59:59,270 --> 00:59:56,319
expectations like you wanted to they use

1673
01:00:01,829 --> 00:59:59,280
them as tools they don't use them as

1674
01:00:02,950 --> 01:00:01,839
means of transportation or i don't know

1675
01:00:05,270 --> 01:00:02,960
what i'm trying to say but they they

1676
01:00:06,390 --> 01:00:05,280
just don't treat them like we do they're

1677
01:00:08,390 --> 01:00:06,400
they're not

1678
01:00:09,990 --> 01:00:08,400
literally three bras

1679
01:00:12,309 --> 01:00:10,000
in the car

1680
01:00:13,750 --> 01:00:12,319
man why i don't understand like why are

1681
01:00:15,829 --> 01:00:13,760
they taking their bar in the car man

1682
01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:15,839
like yeah i mean it looks that's that's

1683
01:00:19,829 --> 01:00:17,440
that's clothing that's not even i mean i

1684
01:00:21,109 --> 01:00:19,839
understand maybe it's a mobile home

1685
01:00:22,710 --> 01:00:21,119
starbucks

1686
01:00:25,030 --> 01:00:22,720
i mean it is

1687
01:00:26,789 --> 01:00:25,040
and in the winter it's a refrigerator

1688
01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:26,799
yeah and of course the excuses well dad

1689
01:00:30,710 --> 01:00:29,200
i was at the beach

1690
01:00:32,230 --> 01:00:30,720
last week actually that's a pretty good

1691
01:00:34,069 --> 01:00:32,240
yeah that's a good experience what's

1692
01:00:35,910 --> 01:00:34,079
crazy about this is that lou is talking

1693
01:00:38,250 --> 01:00:35,920
about a 12 year old female and he

1694
01:00:40,470 --> 01:00:38,260
described my vehicle perfectly just now

1695
01:00:43,270 --> 01:00:40,480
[Laughter]

1696
01:00:45,430 --> 01:00:43,280
there is dr pepper bottles everywhere i

1697
01:00:47,030 --> 01:00:45,440
haven't i've never sat in joe's

1698
01:00:50,789 --> 01:00:47,040
passenger seat

1699
01:00:52,470 --> 01:00:50,799
these are like taco boxes yeah right

1700
01:00:54,789 --> 01:00:52,480
so it's not just my daughter it's not

1701
01:00:56,950 --> 01:00:54,799
just your daughter yeah okay i think

1702
01:00:59,030 --> 01:00:56,960
it's a uh is your daughter like a

1703
01:01:01,829 --> 01:00:59,040
creative type person

1704
01:01:02,549 --> 01:01:01,839
yes very that's probably it man you know

1705
01:01:05,670 --> 01:01:02,559
like

1706
01:01:08,470 --> 01:01:05,680
for we don't have time to clean for me

1707
01:01:11,670 --> 01:01:08,480
dude like my wife's side of the house is

1708
01:01:14,549 --> 01:01:11,680
like just pristine and beautiful mine is

1709
01:01:16,950 --> 01:01:14,559
chaos but anytime like she is like i'm

1710
01:01:19,190 --> 01:01:16,960
going to clean something i can't find

1711
01:01:20,950 --> 01:01:19,200
anything if it's in its spot i can't

1712
01:01:21,829 --> 01:01:20,960
find it and i'll look for a long time

1713
01:01:23,990 --> 01:01:21,839
and she'll be like it's where it's

1714
01:01:25,750 --> 01:01:24,000
supposed to be i literally can't get

1715
01:01:27,349 --> 01:01:25,760
into my daughter's car without a hazmat

1716
01:01:28,950 --> 01:01:27,359
suit i went in there the other week and

1717
01:01:30,630 --> 01:01:28,960
i found a missing kid that had been gone

1718
01:01:33,030 --> 01:01:30,640
for like a year i was just sitting in

1719
01:01:34,950 --> 01:01:33,040
the back seat i'm like hey who are you

1720
01:01:39,270 --> 01:01:34,960
yeah i mean you reward money off that

1721
01:01:42,390 --> 01:01:40,950
it's insane i don't think your

1722
01:01:44,630 --> 01:01:42,400
daughter's going to name her firstborn

1723
01:01:47,349 --> 01:01:44,640
after you after this conversation that's

1724
01:01:48,150 --> 01:01:47,359
that's right out

1725
01:01:49,829 --> 01:01:48,160
god

1726
01:01:50,789 --> 01:01:49,839
talk about grandkids i can't even

1727
01:01:52,549 --> 01:01:50,799
imagine

1728
01:01:54,230 --> 01:01:52,559
you know that's this is how you know god

1729
01:01:56,789 --> 01:01:54,240
has a good sense of humor

1730
01:01:58,870 --> 01:01:56,799
uh because i do i mean i i i obviously i

1731
01:01:59,990 --> 01:01:58,880
i joke around a lot with my kids i love

1732
01:02:02,230 --> 01:02:00,000
my daughters they're the greatest

1733
01:02:03,109 --> 01:02:02,240
accomplishment that i'll ever have in my

1734
01:02:06,150 --> 01:02:03,119
life

1735
01:02:08,230 --> 01:02:06,160
uh they're incredible human beings um

1736
01:02:10,549 --> 01:02:08,240
we've got a really really good

1737
01:02:12,870 --> 01:02:10,559
relationship um

1738
01:02:15,029 --> 01:02:12,880
you know but i i i

1739
01:02:16,710 --> 01:02:15,039
i do you know you worry as a father as a

1740
01:02:19,029 --> 01:02:16,720
parent for your kids especially in

1741
01:02:21,349 --> 01:02:19,039
today's day and age and society

1742
01:02:23,670 --> 01:02:21,359
uh you know as far as grandkids are

1743
01:02:25,750 --> 01:02:23,680
concerned uh you know i'm you know one

1744
01:02:28,150 --> 01:02:25,760
day that probably will happen

1745
01:02:29,589 --> 01:02:28,160
uh hopefully not until she's like 35 or

1746
01:02:31,270 --> 01:02:29,599
40

1747
01:02:34,069 --> 01:02:31,280
but you know

1748
01:02:35,430 --> 01:02:34,079
all right

1749
01:02:37,029 --> 01:02:35,440
is an opportunity for me to ask a

1750
01:02:38,309 --> 01:02:37,039
question i've been pondering that i want

1751
01:02:41,510 --> 01:02:38,319
to see what you think about all right

1752
01:02:43,750 --> 01:02:41,520
say you do have a grandchild

1753
01:02:47,029 --> 01:02:43,760
she goes to college

1754
01:02:49,670 --> 01:02:47,039
day one or they go to history 101

1755
01:02:51,750 --> 01:02:49,680
what is the textbook going to say about

1756
01:02:54,870 --> 01:02:51,760
the current time that we're living

1757
01:02:57,750 --> 01:02:54,880
through right now from 2017 when you've

1758
01:03:00,069 --> 01:02:57,760
left the pentagon to out and then please

1759
01:03:01,589 --> 01:03:00,079
speculate going forward like what is

1760
01:03:04,069 --> 01:03:01,599
what is the history books what is it

1761
01:03:05,990 --> 01:03:04,079
going to say about the current situation

1762
01:03:08,710 --> 01:03:06,000
we are living through and witnessing

1763
01:03:15,670 --> 01:03:12,950
i hope it says something like uh

1764
01:03:19,670 --> 01:03:15,680
in 2017 america woke up and and the

1765
01:03:21,190 --> 01:03:19,680
world began to talk about ufos seriously

1766
01:03:23,270 --> 01:03:21,200
um

1767
01:03:25,829 --> 01:03:23,280
and and we entered into a new

1768
01:03:28,470 --> 01:03:25,839
understanding of of who we are and our

1769
01:03:31,190 --> 01:03:28,480
species and and what it means

1770
01:03:32,549 --> 01:03:31,200
uh to to be a species living living on

1771
01:03:33,910 --> 01:03:32,559
this planet

1772
01:03:35,589 --> 01:03:33,920
um

1773
01:03:37,109 --> 01:03:35,599
you know and oh by the way there's some

1774
01:03:38,870 --> 01:03:37,119
crazy guy named lou and he doesn't

1775
01:03:40,470 --> 01:03:38,880
really matter much that's that's kind of

1776
01:03:42,069 --> 01:03:40,480
what i hope happens because i i don't

1777
01:03:43,910 --> 01:03:42,079
this is not about me i mean in all

1778
01:03:44,630 --> 01:03:43,920
seriousness i've said this over and over

1779
01:03:46,789 --> 01:03:44,640
again

1780
01:03:49,029 --> 01:03:46,799
i i it's not about me i don't want it to

1781
01:03:51,349 --> 01:03:49,039
be about me this is about the collective

1782
01:03:53,190 --> 01:03:51,359
journey for all of us um

1783
01:03:55,670 --> 01:03:53,200
i don't want anybody reading a history

1784
01:03:57,990 --> 01:03:55,680
book and and seeing my face in it um if

1785
01:04:00,710 --> 01:03:58,000
that's if that happens then then once

1786
01:04:04,069 --> 01:04:00,720
again i failed in my mission um because

1787
01:04:06,630 --> 01:04:04,079
this is not about me this is about us

1788
01:04:08,789 --> 01:04:06,640
and i want

1789
01:04:11,190 --> 01:04:08,799
i want all of us to to

1790
01:04:15,109 --> 01:04:13,270
to be able to reap the rewards of this

1791
01:04:17,430 --> 01:04:15,119
this is this is i think an epiphan

1792
01:04:20,069 --> 01:04:17,440
epiphanic moment for us

1793
01:04:22,309 --> 01:04:20,079
as a society maybe as a species

1794
01:04:24,069 --> 01:04:22,319
uh and and um

1795
01:04:26,710 --> 01:04:24,079
you know that's

1796
01:04:27,750 --> 01:04:26,720
i guess well well honestly they're

1797
01:04:29,270 --> 01:04:27,760
probably not going to be using textbooks

1798
01:04:31,829 --> 01:04:29,280
by then they're probably not no no no

1799
01:04:33,589 --> 01:04:31,839
you know but you know i uh

1800
01:04:36,789 --> 01:04:33,599
yeah that's that's that's kind of what i

1801
01:04:38,950 --> 01:04:36,799
hope i i hope it's about about our our

1802
01:04:40,390 --> 01:04:38,960
greater collective understanding of of

1803
01:04:43,190 --> 01:04:40,400
the great unknown

1804
01:04:45,109 --> 01:04:43,200
uh and and you know i hope really i

1805
01:04:47,349 --> 01:04:45,119
really do hope that

1806
01:04:49,750 --> 01:04:47,359
we can see this as an opportunity to

1807
01:04:51,910 --> 01:04:49,760
come together as as not just a society

1808
01:04:53,670 --> 01:04:51,920
but maybe as a world you know i've told

1809
01:04:55,109 --> 01:04:53,680
people before i've spent so much time

1810
01:04:57,270 --> 01:04:55,119
with these hands

1811
01:04:58,870 --> 01:04:57,280
uh in my job you know

1812
01:05:01,270 --> 01:04:58,880
ripping people apart and i hate to say

1813
01:05:02,870 --> 01:05:01,280
that but that's what warfare is about

1814
01:05:04,710 --> 01:05:02,880
i'd like to spend the remainder of my

1815
01:05:06,470 --> 01:05:04,720
life trying to put people back together

1816
01:05:08,390 --> 01:05:06,480
and and maybe this is a way of doing

1817
01:05:11,190 --> 01:05:08,400
that

1818
01:05:13,430 --> 01:05:11,200
so so we all are going on this journey

1819
01:05:14,390 --> 01:05:13,440
individually but together

1820
01:05:16,309 --> 01:05:14,400
um

1821
01:05:18,710 --> 01:05:16,319
there's there's always a doubt in my

1822
01:05:20,789 --> 01:05:18,720
mind when i talk about the subject

1823
01:05:22,789 --> 01:05:20,799
and that i'm wrong because no one wants

1824
01:05:24,470 --> 01:05:22,799
to be wrong it's embarrassing

1825
01:05:25,270 --> 01:05:24,480
i don't want to waste my effort looking

1826
01:05:27,029 --> 01:05:25,280
into

1827
01:05:29,750 --> 01:05:27,039
looking in the wrong direction

1828
01:05:32,549 --> 01:05:29,760
on a podcast you had with max

1829
01:05:34,549 --> 01:05:32,559
from amsterdam who is doing a bang-up

1830
01:05:37,190 --> 01:05:34,559
job right now

1831
01:05:38,950 --> 01:05:37,200
there was a you concluded the first

1832
01:05:41,029 --> 01:05:38,960
podcast you had with him

1833
01:05:43,589 --> 01:05:41,039
by congratulating him for being on the

1834
01:05:47,270 --> 01:05:43,599
right side of history

1835
01:05:50,549 --> 01:05:47,280
that was a moment of relief for me like

1836
01:05:52,710 --> 01:05:50,559
it it i actually exhaled when you you

1837
01:05:55,349 --> 01:05:52,720
said that to them to him because it felt

1838
01:05:56,390 --> 01:05:55,359
like validation to me in some set in

1839
01:05:57,990 --> 01:05:56,400
some way

1840
01:05:59,270 --> 01:05:58,000
that you were that you're sticking your

1841
01:06:00,470 --> 01:05:59,280
neck out there and that's what you're

1842
01:06:02,549 --> 01:06:00,480
starting to tell people because that's

1843
01:06:04,470 --> 01:06:02,559
what i want to start telling people

1844
01:06:05,270 --> 01:06:04,480
do you remember the moment

1845
01:06:08,150 --> 01:06:05,280
when

1846
01:06:09,910 --> 01:06:08,160
you went from being a skeptic

1847
01:06:10,789 --> 01:06:09,920
about this situation

1848
01:06:14,069 --> 01:06:10,799
to

1849
01:06:16,470 --> 01:06:14,079
ch on your journey you then flipped and

1850
01:06:21,190 --> 01:06:16,480
realized that you were now on the right

1851
01:06:23,270 --> 01:06:21,200
side of history i i do but let me

1852
01:06:24,870 --> 01:06:23,280
let me also preface this stand because i

1853
01:06:26,870 --> 01:06:24,880
think i think

1854
01:06:29,190 --> 01:06:26,880
uh let me be just just from a little bit

1855
01:06:31,109 --> 01:06:29,200
retrospective here um

1856
01:06:33,109 --> 01:06:31,119
it's okay to be wrong um i've learned

1857
01:06:35,029 --> 01:06:33,119
most of my lessons in life because i've

1858
01:06:37,190 --> 01:06:35,039
done things the wrong way first

1859
01:06:40,230 --> 01:06:37,200
i made a lot of mistakes in my life

1860
01:06:42,230 --> 01:06:40,240
and you you only learn uh to do things

1861
01:06:44,309 --> 01:06:42,240
right most of the time when first you

1862
01:06:46,150 --> 01:06:44,319
learn how to do them wrong

1863
01:06:47,910 --> 01:06:46,160
there was an old saying you know when i

1864
01:06:49,589 --> 01:06:47,920
was a kid my father used to tell me this

1865
01:06:52,630 --> 01:06:49,599
story about a about a i come from an

1866
01:06:54,950 --> 01:06:52,640
immigrant family cuban family um about a

1867
01:06:56,549 --> 01:06:54,960
a cuban swimmer who who who won the

1868
01:06:58,150 --> 01:06:56,559
olympics and

1869
01:07:00,390 --> 01:06:58,160
uh he was being interviewed after

1870
01:07:02,230 --> 01:07:00,400
winning the gold medal and the the the

1871
01:07:04,230 --> 01:07:02,240
reporter came up and said oh you know oh

1872
01:07:06,870 --> 01:07:04,240
my goodness uh you're such an amazing

1873
01:07:09,029 --> 01:07:06,880
human being you have this gold medal and

1874
01:07:11,829 --> 01:07:09,039
you have apparently the record

1875
01:07:14,870 --> 01:07:11,839
for winning the most uh racist swim

1876
01:07:17,349 --> 01:07:14,880
races uh in the world how does it feel

1877
01:07:19,190 --> 01:07:17,359
and what he said was well uh

1878
01:07:22,630 --> 01:07:19,200
i appreciate that but i don't think you

1879
01:07:25,270 --> 01:07:22,640
understand or nor maybe know the history

1880
01:07:27,270 --> 01:07:25,280
besides having the most wins of anybody

1881
01:07:29,430 --> 01:07:27,280
on the planet i also happen to have the

1882
01:07:31,109 --> 01:07:29,440
record for losing the most than anybody

1883
01:07:34,470 --> 01:07:31,119
on the planet uh

1884
01:07:37,510 --> 01:07:34,480
and uh i just never gave up um and so

1885
01:07:39,510 --> 01:07:37,520
i think therein lies lies the the lesson

1886
01:07:41,029 --> 01:07:39,520
i want to make sure that

1887
01:07:43,270 --> 01:07:41,039
it it's always good to be on the right

1888
01:07:44,710 --> 01:07:43,280
side of history but it's also okay to

1889
01:07:47,270 --> 01:07:44,720
make mistakes

1890
01:07:48,950 --> 01:07:47,280
um because that's how we we we keep

1891
01:07:51,190 --> 01:07:48,960
ourselves from from making those same

1892
01:07:53,109 --> 01:07:51,200
mistakes in the future whether it's at a

1893
01:07:56,150 --> 01:07:53,119
citiz as it's as a citizen or as a

1894
01:07:57,349 --> 01:07:56,160
husband or a wife or a father or a

1895
01:07:58,710 --> 01:07:57,359
mother

1896
01:08:00,470 --> 01:07:58,720
that is part of the human condition

1897
01:08:04,150 --> 01:08:00,480
we're going to make mistakes and and

1898
01:08:07,270 --> 01:08:04,160
failure is part of success you will fail

1899
01:08:09,990 --> 01:08:07,280
if if several times if if you really

1900
01:08:11,990 --> 01:08:10,000
want to succeed and there's a reason why

1901
01:08:14,309 --> 01:08:12,000
thomas edison called his patent for the

1902
01:08:15,670 --> 01:08:14,319
incandescent light bulb uh patent number

1903
01:08:17,749 --> 01:08:15,680
something filament number i think it was

1904
01:08:18,870 --> 01:08:17,759
like one thousand don't hold me to it

1905
01:08:21,749 --> 01:08:18,880
something like something ridiculous like

1906
01:08:24,149 --> 01:08:21,759
filament number 1532

1907
01:08:25,870 --> 01:08:24,159
and the reason why he called it that is

1908
01:08:28,070 --> 01:08:25,880
because he had failed something like

1909
01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:28,080
1531 times before he finally got it

1910
01:08:32,149 --> 01:08:30,000
right but he got it that one time right

1911
01:08:34,550 --> 01:08:32,159
and look what happened right and so

1912
01:08:36,709 --> 01:08:34,560
that's that's important um one other

1913
01:08:38,789 --> 01:08:36,719
thing i'll leave you with here

1914
01:08:40,870 --> 01:08:38,799
is uh

1915
01:08:42,550 --> 01:08:40,880
it's about it's about

1916
01:08:44,229 --> 01:08:42,560
it's about human sacrifice when i say

1917
01:08:45,030 --> 01:08:44,239
human sacrifice it's what i mean it's

1918
01:08:46,870 --> 01:08:45,040
about

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01:08:49,749 --> 01:08:46,880
sacrificing

1920
01:08:52,229 --> 01:08:49,759
the one's own desires and needs and

1921
01:08:53,669 --> 01:08:52,239
wants for the greater collective good of

1922
01:08:55,110 --> 01:08:53,679
everybody else

1923
01:08:57,110 --> 01:08:55,120
uh there

1924
01:08:59,349 --> 01:08:57,120
again maybe it's a latin thing in me i

1925
01:09:01,590 --> 01:08:59,359
tend to talk in analogies but but let me

1926
01:09:03,990 --> 01:09:01,600
let me share one more with you

1927
01:09:05,590 --> 01:09:04,000
uh there was a great artist

1928
01:09:08,950 --> 01:09:05,600
that was unveiling his latest

1929
01:09:10,550 --> 01:09:08,960
masterpiece and uh after after

1930
01:09:12,870 --> 01:09:10,560
years and years and years of working on

1931
01:09:14,950 --> 01:09:12,880
this stone stone masterpiece

1932
01:09:17,510 --> 01:09:14,960
uh he turns out and he goes to this bit

1933
01:09:20,149 --> 01:09:17,520
the big unveiling and also he pulls back

1934
01:09:21,669 --> 01:09:20,159
uh the the big you know blanket that's

1935
01:09:22,709 --> 01:09:21,679
been covering it and everybody starts

1936
01:09:24,470 --> 01:09:22,719
cheering and saying oh look at this

1937
01:09:26,870 --> 01:09:24,480
wonderful masterpiece look at the angles

1938
01:09:28,229 --> 01:09:26,880
look at the curves this is gorgeous this

1939
01:09:30,470 --> 01:09:28,239
is incredible

1940
01:09:32,630 --> 01:09:30,480
and they look over and and the artist is

1941
01:09:33,590 --> 01:09:32,640
absolutely apoplectic crying on the

1942
01:09:35,910 --> 01:09:33,600
floor

1943
01:09:37,990 --> 01:09:35,920
and they said what what what's wrong

1944
01:09:40,709 --> 01:09:38,000
this is this is this is a great day for

1945
01:09:42,470 --> 01:09:40,719
you this is an incredible masterpiece

1946
01:09:43,510 --> 01:09:42,480
and the

1947
01:09:44,630 --> 01:09:43,520
the artist

1948
01:09:46,870 --> 01:09:44,640
looked at them and they said you've

1949
01:09:48,950 --> 01:09:46,880
completely missed the point

1950
01:09:51,430 --> 01:09:48,960
that's not the masterpiece

1951
01:09:53,910 --> 01:09:51,440
you see below all the ash and the and

1952
01:09:55,830 --> 01:09:53,920
the chunks of of marble and and the

1953
01:09:57,189 --> 01:09:55,840
blood that's inside that marble and the

1954
01:09:59,030 --> 01:09:57,199
sweat

1955
01:10:00,390 --> 01:09:59,040
that's the masterpiece what you see here

1956
01:10:02,950 --> 01:10:00,400
is just what's left behind from the

1957
01:10:05,350 --> 01:10:02,960
masterpiece the masterpiece is actually

1958
01:10:06,870 --> 01:10:05,360
the sacrifice and the dedication it took

1959
01:10:08,950 --> 01:10:06,880
to create that

1960
01:10:11,030 --> 01:10:08,960
but if you think that that the marble

1961
01:10:13,110 --> 01:10:11,040
itself is the masterpiece

1962
01:10:15,270 --> 01:10:13,120
we're we're missing the point of the

1963
01:10:16,630 --> 01:10:15,280
creation itself and

1964
01:10:19,110 --> 01:10:16,640
and i think

1965
01:10:19,990 --> 01:10:19,120
for me that's very important because

1966
01:10:21,910 --> 01:10:20,000
uh

1967
01:10:24,310 --> 01:10:21,920
all of you right now having this

1968
01:10:25,990 --> 01:10:24,320
conversation with me are sacrificing

1969
01:10:28,550 --> 01:10:26,000
time away from something else you could

1970
01:10:31,510 --> 01:10:28,560
be doing and instead you're with me here

1971
01:10:33,510 --> 01:10:31,520
today and your audience and and and

1972
01:10:35,910 --> 01:10:33,520
those watching this

1973
01:10:37,910 --> 01:10:35,920
that says a lot that there is sacrifice

1974
01:10:39,750 --> 01:10:37,920
there because you are choosing

1975
01:10:42,470 --> 01:10:39,760
to do this instead of something else

1976
01:10:44,790 --> 01:10:42,480
that maybe you should be doing instead

1977
01:10:46,709 --> 01:10:44,800
and and and that is important that that

1978
01:10:48,229 --> 01:10:46,719
for me is what what gets me waking up

1979
01:10:49,750 --> 01:10:48,239
every morning to do what i do it's

1980
01:10:53,030 --> 01:10:49,760
because this is truly a collective

1981
01:10:54,950 --> 01:10:53,040
effort everybody's giving a peace uh and

1982
01:10:57,030 --> 01:10:54,960
and that's why i do what i do because

1983
01:10:58,470 --> 01:10:57,040
you were doing what you do and ben and

1984
01:10:59,830 --> 01:10:58,480
joe are doing what they do and your

1985
01:11:01,669 --> 01:10:59,840
audience does what they do and they're

1986
01:11:03,750 --> 01:11:01,679
having the conversation they're keeping

1987
01:11:05,669 --> 01:11:03,760
this conversation alive

1988
01:11:08,390 --> 01:11:05,679
that's what inspires me to do what i'm

1989
01:11:09,910 --> 01:11:08,400
doing so in very much the same way

1990
01:11:11,189 --> 01:11:09,920
we are only and this goes back to the

1991
01:11:12,390 --> 01:11:11,199
original conversation we had at the

1992
01:11:14,550 --> 01:11:12,400
beginning of this

1993
01:11:16,229 --> 01:11:14,560
i'm only here today doing what i'm doing

1994
01:11:19,510 --> 01:11:16,239
because you are here today doing what

1995
01:11:20,870 --> 01:11:19,520
you're doing and that's that's a fact

1996
01:11:23,189 --> 01:11:20,880
there's something to be said about that

1997
01:11:25,350 --> 01:11:23,199
lou i mean that was beautiful i i think

1998
01:11:27,830 --> 01:11:25,360
what we're all kind of on the tip of our

1999
01:11:30,630 --> 01:11:27,840
tongue we feel it we feel this energy

2000
01:11:33,110 --> 01:11:30,640
coming up that it's almost like the

2001
01:11:35,510 --> 01:11:33,120
answer to a question we already know on

2002
01:11:36,229 --> 01:11:35,520
the inside is that this is all leading

2003
01:11:38,310 --> 01:11:36,239
to

2004
01:11:41,350 --> 01:11:38,320
the fact that we don't know who we are

2005
01:11:43,510 --> 01:11:41,360
as as conscious beings like

2006
01:11:45,590 --> 01:11:43,520
whether it be energy uh where we come

2007
01:11:48,229 --> 01:11:45,600
from who made us why are we here i think

2008
01:11:50,709 --> 01:11:48,239
it all comes down to consciousness and

2009
01:11:51,550 --> 01:11:50,719
that connection between

2010
01:11:54,390 --> 01:11:51,560
uh

2011
01:11:56,149 --> 01:11:54,400
experiencing reality and

2012
01:11:58,630 --> 01:11:56,159
where that is headed is

2013
01:12:00,550 --> 01:11:58,640
we've made things so granular like oh

2014
01:12:03,030 --> 01:12:00,560
it's a craft it looks like this it has

2015
01:12:05,030 --> 01:12:03,040
it's made of this material it's uh it's

2016
01:12:06,830 --> 01:12:05,040
being secrets are guarded by these

2017
01:12:09,669 --> 01:12:06,840
people but i think that's all a

2018
01:12:12,070 --> 01:12:09,679
distraction from the true message i mean

2019
01:12:13,750 --> 01:12:12,080
this is just me just kind of speaking

2020
01:12:16,470 --> 01:12:13,760
off the top of my head but

2021
01:12:18,950 --> 01:12:16,480
i think what the messes lose is is

2022
01:12:19,830 --> 01:12:18,960
is a message of love and understanding

2023
01:12:25,669 --> 01:12:19,840
and

2024
01:12:29,669 --> 01:12:25,679
like

2025
01:12:31,189 --> 01:12:29,679
off but uh

2026
01:12:34,149 --> 01:12:31,199
no i don't think you are i think i think

2027
01:12:36,870 --> 01:12:34,159
we all are connected um and and we are

2028
01:12:38,709 --> 01:12:36,880
connected in in more ways than one

2029
01:12:41,030 --> 01:12:38,719
i mean we are all

2030
01:12:42,550 --> 01:12:41,040
frankly stuck on this giant ufo we call

2031
01:12:43,510 --> 01:12:42,560
planet earth and we're all stuck on it

2032
01:12:45,669 --> 01:12:43,520
together

2033
01:12:47,430 --> 01:12:45,679
and there's nothing that you you do on

2034
01:12:49,189 --> 01:12:47,440
this planet that does not impact or

2035
01:12:50,709 --> 01:12:49,199
affect another living organism on this

2036
01:12:51,669 --> 01:12:50,719
planet we're all sharing this planet

2037
01:12:54,870 --> 01:12:51,679
together

2038
01:12:57,830 --> 01:12:54,880
and and and every resource that we have

2039
01:13:00,870 --> 01:12:57,840
it's all interconnected uh we are

2040
01:13:02,790 --> 01:13:00,880
interconnected um you know us us having

2041
01:13:06,470 --> 01:13:02,800
this conversation we are

2042
01:13:09,270 --> 01:13:06,480
we are we're using language and words to

2043
01:13:11,830 --> 01:13:09,280
convey meaning and thought but you are

2044
01:13:14,149 --> 01:13:11,840
you are able to understand and in

2045
01:13:15,990 --> 01:13:14,159
essence read my mind based upon some

2046
01:13:17,590 --> 01:13:16,000
sounds that i'm uttering and you're

2047
01:13:18,470 --> 01:13:17,600
interpreting and translating them into

2048
01:13:20,790 --> 01:13:18,480
into

2049
01:13:22,070 --> 01:13:20,800
to a thought in your mind and an emotion

2050
01:13:23,990 --> 01:13:22,080
and in turn i'm doing the same thing

2051
01:13:26,229 --> 01:13:24,000
when you speak and it's the same thing

2052
01:13:27,669 --> 01:13:26,239
when when anybody speaks and so so we

2053
01:13:30,229 --> 01:13:27,679
all are connected

2054
01:13:32,550 --> 01:13:30,239
we're connected very intimately in in

2055
01:13:34,390 --> 01:13:32,560
just about everything we do in life and

2056
01:13:36,310 --> 01:13:34,400
i don't think we i don't think we

2057
01:13:39,590 --> 01:13:36,320
realize that you know there's there's

2058
01:13:40,550 --> 01:13:39,600
nothing more tragic in in in warfare

2059
01:13:42,070 --> 01:13:40,560
uh

2060
01:13:44,870 --> 01:13:42,080
than having to take another human

2061
01:13:47,030 --> 01:13:44,880
being's life because because

2062
01:13:48,470 --> 01:13:47,040
we are connected uh

2063
01:13:51,110 --> 01:13:48,480
and um

2064
01:13:53,110 --> 01:13:51,120
you know it's it's it's it's i i always

2065
01:13:55,030 --> 01:13:53,120
say you know to my daughters that the

2066
01:13:57,990 --> 01:13:55,040
you know that the angels cry every time

2067
01:14:01,510 --> 01:13:58,000
we we we take take our our fellow man's

2068
01:14:02,870 --> 01:14:01,520
uh life from the planet um you know i'm

2069
01:14:04,630 --> 01:14:02,880
not saying that that is it's not

2070
01:14:06,229 --> 01:14:04,640
necessary sometimes because you have to

2071
01:14:08,950 --> 01:14:06,239
defend to protect the things that you

2072
01:14:10,550 --> 01:14:08,960
love and you hold dear it's just a pity

2073
01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:10,560
that we have to be in that situation to

2074
01:14:13,270 --> 01:14:11,920
begin with right it's a shame that we

2075
01:14:15,590 --> 01:14:13,280
can't we can't

2076
01:14:17,590 --> 01:14:15,600
figure this out without having to kill

2077
01:14:19,189 --> 01:14:17,600
each other you know why can't we just

2078
01:14:21,750 --> 01:14:19,199
have a conversation

2079
01:14:24,070 --> 01:14:21,760
um you know and in some cases agree to

2080
01:14:25,669 --> 01:14:24,080
disagree now obviously that's that's not

2081
01:14:28,310 --> 01:14:25,679
always the case you know there's times

2082
01:14:31,590 --> 01:14:28,320
you you have to you have to behave

2083
01:14:33,189 --> 01:14:31,600
violently um right but i i i think

2084
01:14:35,189 --> 01:14:33,199
that's that's

2085
01:14:37,270 --> 01:14:35,199
i think that's a last resort and i think

2086
01:14:39,030 --> 01:14:37,280
if you do it you do it begrudgingly you

2087
01:14:41,110 --> 01:14:39,040
don't ever do it because you want to you

2088
01:14:42,470 --> 01:14:41,120
do it because

2089
01:14:43,910 --> 01:14:42,480
you have to

2090
01:14:45,510 --> 01:14:43,920
and um

2091
01:14:47,750 --> 01:14:45,520
you know that's that's that's my

2092
01:14:49,590 --> 01:14:47,760
perspective anyways so you mentioned

2093
01:14:51,590 --> 01:14:49,600
that we're all connected

2094
01:14:54,550 --> 01:14:51,600
all of us are connected on this planet

2095
01:14:56,149 --> 01:14:54,560
at this time but i also am a history

2096
01:14:58,630 --> 01:14:56,159
buff and i believe that we are all

2097
01:15:00,950 --> 01:14:58,640
connected to our ancestors and

2098
01:15:02,709 --> 01:15:00,960
it's human history it's not

2099
01:15:03,830 --> 01:15:02,719
one person's history

2100
01:15:06,950 --> 01:15:03,840
and

2101
01:15:09,350 --> 01:15:06,960
my thoughts are that this phenomenon

2102
01:15:10,870 --> 01:15:09,360
whatever it is has been interacting with

2103
01:15:14,550 --> 01:15:10,880
our ancestors

2104
01:15:16,950 --> 01:15:14,560
in some way shape or form

2105
01:15:19,669 --> 01:15:16,960
more so now it seems that we've

2106
01:15:22,149 --> 01:15:19,679
discovered some uh things that go boom

2107
01:15:23,189 --> 01:15:22,159
really really really big uh

2108
01:15:25,990 --> 01:15:23,199
are there

2109
01:15:29,030 --> 01:15:26,000
any um

2110
01:15:32,070 --> 01:15:29,040
artwork or any uh information from past

2111
01:15:34,070 --> 01:15:32,080
civilizations ancestors that you find

2112
01:15:36,229 --> 01:15:34,080
highly compelling that would lead to

2113
01:15:37,910 --> 01:15:36,239
those that you've been interacting with

2114
01:15:40,310 --> 01:15:37,920
there's a tremendous amount of anecdotal

2115
01:15:42,070 --> 01:15:40,320
information that exists um i i'm not

2116
01:15:43,430 --> 01:15:42,080
gonna to go too far down the road of

2117
01:15:45,590 --> 01:15:43,440
speculation because i don't want to

2118
01:15:47,270 --> 01:15:45,600
mislead anybody obviously my personal

2119
01:15:48,310 --> 01:15:47,280
views and opinions are are just that

2120
01:15:50,310 --> 01:15:48,320
they're mine

2121
01:15:51,830 --> 01:15:50,320
uh and i don't expect anybody to

2122
01:15:53,510 --> 01:15:51,840
subscribe to that and nor would i

2123
01:15:56,390 --> 01:15:53,520
necessarily want that to happen

2124
01:15:58,229 --> 01:15:56,400
but i i think you know there's

2125
01:15:59,830 --> 01:15:58,239
let me put it in the words of my good

2126
01:16:01,590 --> 01:15:59,840
friend chris mellon you know we spend

2127
01:16:04,709 --> 01:16:01,600
millions of dollars each year looking

2128
01:16:06,390 --> 01:16:04,719
for for microbial life on mars we spend

2129
01:16:08,310 --> 01:16:06,400
millions of dollars each year looking

2130
01:16:10,470 --> 01:16:08,320
for technical signatures radio

2131
01:16:11,830 --> 01:16:10,480
signatures from from within our galaxy

2132
01:16:13,430 --> 01:16:11,840
of intelligent life

2133
01:16:16,229 --> 01:16:13,440
we've been here for approximately four

2134
01:16:18,070 --> 01:16:16,239
and a half billion years already well

2135
01:16:21,590 --> 01:16:18,080
let me ask you this what if what if

2136
01:16:22,950 --> 01:16:21,600
intelligent life already found us first

2137
01:16:26,390 --> 01:16:22,960
it makes sense

2138
01:16:29,189 --> 01:16:26,400
yeah yeah or they have been here for a

2139
01:16:30,870 --> 01:16:29,199
long time i mean the ocean is huge guys

2140
01:16:31,750 --> 01:16:30,880
i mean come on

2141
01:16:32,709 --> 01:16:31,760
uh

2142
01:16:34,390 --> 01:16:32,719
they're

2143
01:16:35,990 --> 01:16:34,400
i believe that there could be

2144
01:16:37,830 --> 01:16:36,000
whether or not it'd be under the water

2145
01:16:40,630 --> 01:16:37,840
or on the surface i mean there there are

2146
01:16:42,310 --> 01:16:40,640
places on in the oceans that we can't go

2147
01:16:44,070 --> 01:16:42,320
i'm not telling i'm not asking for any

2148
01:16:45,510 --> 01:16:44,080
divulges of information here lou i'm

2149
01:16:47,830 --> 01:16:45,520
just kind of just this is what i do on

2150
01:16:49,750 --> 01:16:47,840
the podcast i'm like what if this but i

2151
01:16:51,030 --> 01:16:49,760
mean there's that there has to be a

2152
01:16:53,510 --> 01:16:51,040
possibility that's well in a

2153
01:16:55,669 --> 01:16:53,520
civilization on earth and you know it's

2154
01:16:57,830 --> 01:16:55,679
not and not even physical let me let me

2155
01:17:00,790 --> 01:16:57,840
i've said that i may have said this once

2156
01:17:02,550 --> 01:17:00,800
before i but i don't say very often

2157
01:17:04,070 --> 01:17:02,560
let me for just a moment put something

2158
01:17:06,470 --> 01:17:04,080
into perspective

2159
01:17:08,390 --> 01:17:06,480
um we have five fundamental senses for

2160
01:17:10,630 --> 01:17:08,400
which we we interact with our

2161
01:17:12,390 --> 01:17:10,640
environment okay touch taste hear smell

2162
01:17:14,550 --> 01:17:12,400
you know that tips

2163
01:17:17,350 --> 01:17:14,560
and if it falls outside of those those

2164
01:17:19,189 --> 01:17:17,360
primary senses we can't interact with it

2165
01:17:20,870 --> 01:17:19,199
we can't even perceive it right now we

2166
01:17:22,790 --> 01:17:20,880
know there's a reality all around us

2167
01:17:24,870 --> 01:17:22,800
that we can't perceive there's wi-fi

2168
01:17:26,870 --> 01:17:24,880
signals and there's cosmic radiation and

2169
01:17:28,709 --> 01:17:26,880
there's gamma radiation there's

2170
01:17:31,189 --> 01:17:28,719
neutrinos coursing through our body and

2171
01:17:33,189 --> 01:17:31,199
there's there's gps signals and radar

2172
01:17:35,270 --> 01:17:33,199
coming from the airport that's going in

2173
01:17:36,550 --> 01:17:35,280
and out of our body and yet we have no

2174
01:17:38,390 --> 01:17:36,560
idea of look

2175
01:17:39,669 --> 01:17:38,400
go out on a beautiful starry night one

2176
01:17:42,709 --> 01:17:39,679
night and take a look at the heavens and

2177
01:17:44,709 --> 01:17:42,719
you're gonna say that is magical now

2178
01:17:45,990 --> 01:17:44,719
look at that through a radio telescope

2179
01:17:47,669 --> 01:17:46,000
right look at it and look at the

2180
01:17:49,510 --> 01:17:47,679
infrared spectrum and the ultraviolet

2181
01:17:51,030 --> 01:17:49,520
spectrum and all of a sudden you see

2182
01:17:53,189 --> 01:17:51,040
things now in the heavens that you could

2183
01:17:54,709 --> 01:17:53,199
never see before and they're right there

2184
01:17:56,950 --> 01:17:54,719
they're real they're just as real as you

2185
01:17:59,030 --> 01:17:56,960
and i having this conversation but we

2186
01:18:01,030 --> 01:17:59,040
don't have the ability to interact or to

2187
01:18:03,189 --> 01:18:01,040
perceive it because we simply don't

2188
01:18:05,910 --> 01:18:03,199
we're not equipped as a biological

2189
01:18:07,830 --> 01:18:05,920
species to to to receive and interpret

2190
01:18:09,270 --> 01:18:07,840
that information and then furthermore

2191
01:18:11,270 --> 01:18:09,280
let's look at the human being and where

2192
01:18:13,830 --> 01:18:11,280
we are on the scale of the universe okay

2193
01:18:16,550 --> 01:18:13,840
so i can go in this direction

2194
01:18:18,950 --> 01:18:16,560
13.5 billion light years to the farthest

2195
01:18:21,430 --> 01:18:18,960
known portion of the visible universe

2196
01:18:23,350 --> 01:18:21,440
and i can go in this direction 13.5

2197
01:18:25,830 --> 01:18:23,360
billion light years so that that's a

2198
01:18:28,310 --> 01:18:25,840
distance of 27 billion light years from

2199
01:18:29,830 --> 01:18:28,320
end to end of the visible known universe

2200
01:18:32,310 --> 01:18:29,840
and i'm stuck right here in the middle

2201
01:18:33,350 --> 01:18:32,320
right and as big and as awesome as it

2202
01:18:35,030 --> 01:18:33,360
may be

2203
01:18:37,910 --> 01:18:35,040
ready

2204
01:18:39,910 --> 01:18:37,920
at from a scale perspective

2205
01:18:42,310 --> 01:18:39,920
when you look at the size of an atom 1

2206
01:18:44,709 --> 01:18:42,320
times 10 to the minus 26

2207
01:18:47,510 --> 01:18:44,719
there is an equally if not greater in

2208
01:18:50,149 --> 01:18:47,520
scale there's a universe just as big if

2209
01:18:51,030 --> 01:18:50,159
not bigger inside every one of us going

2210
01:18:53,189 --> 01:18:51,040
down

2211
01:18:54,950 --> 01:18:53,199
and the only thing that we can ever

2212
01:18:57,110 --> 01:18:54,960
truly interact with is something maybe

2213
01:19:01,510 --> 01:18:57,120
five to fifty feet in front of our face

2214
01:19:04,070 --> 01:19:01,520
so by definition 99.99999

2215
01:19:05,669 --> 01:19:04,080
of the universe is beyond our ability to

2216
01:19:08,070 --> 01:19:05,679
not only interact with but to even

2217
01:19:09,510 --> 01:19:08,080
perceive and so for us to think that

2218
01:19:11,270 --> 01:19:09,520
everything in the universe and all

2219
01:19:13,110 --> 01:19:11,280
understanding and knowledge is going to

2220
01:19:16,310 --> 01:19:13,120
fit right here in this neat little tiny

2221
01:19:18,149 --> 01:19:16,320
narrow spectrum of what we perceive

2222
01:19:19,669 --> 01:19:18,159
you're fooling yourself

2223
01:19:22,149 --> 01:19:19,679
that's that's that's just that just

2224
01:19:23,350 --> 01:19:22,159
doesn't make sense because the most of

2225
01:19:25,510 --> 01:19:23,360
reality

2226
01:19:28,070 --> 01:19:25,520
is it will never be able to interact

2227
01:19:30,790 --> 01:19:28,080
with and so is it possible there are

2228
01:19:33,270 --> 01:19:30,800
species out there intelligent life that

2229
01:19:34,870 --> 01:19:33,280
that live beyond that little tiny narrow

2230
01:19:37,270 --> 01:19:34,880
spectrum well

2231
01:19:39,910 --> 01:19:37,280
the probability is is very high that

2232
01:19:42,070 --> 01:19:39,920
that is that is that is indeed

2233
01:19:43,990 --> 01:19:42,080
possible well i feel like you're

2234
01:19:47,030 --> 01:19:44,000
describing the

2235
01:19:49,669 --> 01:19:47,040
grandiose nature of the universe and

2236
01:19:52,229 --> 01:19:49,679
going shrinking down into the quantum

2237
01:19:54,070 --> 01:19:52,239
aspects of our existence

2238
01:19:55,990 --> 01:19:54,080
and and that's where

2239
01:19:58,310 --> 01:19:56,000
your conversations about

2240
01:20:00,950 --> 01:19:58,320
quantum physics have been the most

2241
01:20:02,630 --> 01:20:00,960
fascinating things for me um i don't

2242
01:20:04,709 --> 01:20:02,640
know what to ask you about that except

2243
01:20:06,870 --> 01:20:04,719
can you elaborate on

2244
01:20:09,270 --> 01:20:06,880
anything quantum physics related that

2245
01:20:10,470 --> 01:20:09,280
you find compelling like i read chains

2246
01:20:12,470 --> 01:20:10,480
of the sea

2247
01:20:14,709 --> 01:20:12,480
and the different

2248
01:20:17,669 --> 01:20:14,719
types of creatures that would interact

2249
01:20:20,070 --> 01:20:17,679
with the lead character and were were

2250
01:20:21,430 --> 01:20:20,080
they more or less quantum

2251
01:20:23,189 --> 01:20:21,440
creatures

2252
01:20:25,189 --> 01:20:23,199
that he was trying to get at is that how

2253
01:20:28,229 --> 01:20:25,199
you took it

2254
01:20:30,790 --> 01:20:28,239
um i took it as that the the universe

2255
01:20:31,510 --> 01:20:30,800
and nature is far more wondrous than

2256
01:20:37,030 --> 01:20:31,520
than

2257
01:20:39,990 --> 01:20:37,040
can perceive um the world is much older

2258
01:20:42,470 --> 01:20:40,000
uh than than we can appreciate

2259
01:20:44,390 --> 01:20:42,480
and uh there have been existences on

2260
01:20:47,910 --> 01:20:44,400
this planet and species that have come

2261
01:20:51,189 --> 01:20:47,920
and gone uh in fact we're the minority

2262
01:20:53,830 --> 01:20:51,199
in fact even from a human perspective

2263
01:20:55,030 --> 01:20:53,840
94 of all humanity

2264
01:20:59,750 --> 01:20:55,040
uh

2265
01:21:03,750 --> 01:20:59,760
um

2266
01:21:06,390 --> 01:21:03,760
uh we're really a

2267
01:21:07,910 --> 01:21:06,400
rather small minority right now um of

2268
01:21:09,030 --> 01:21:07,920
everybody who's alive like this very

2269
01:21:09,910 --> 01:21:09,040
moment

2270
01:21:15,350 --> 01:21:09,920
so

2271
01:21:17,750 --> 01:21:15,360
we don't let our own intellectual hubris

2272
01:21:19,430 --> 01:21:17,760
uh get the best of us because

2273
01:21:21,830 --> 01:21:19,440
we are a species that likes to have

2274
01:21:24,709 --> 01:21:21,840
answers we're a species that likes to

2275
01:21:25,990 --> 01:21:24,719
to to put nature in a nice neat little

2276
01:21:28,470 --> 01:21:26,000
box and have all these neat little

2277
01:21:31,669 --> 01:21:28,480
definitions of what life is

2278
01:21:34,550 --> 01:21:31,679
and every time we do that we

2279
01:21:36,470 --> 01:21:34,560
we make a mistake because because nature

2280
01:21:38,629 --> 01:21:36,480
doesn't really care about our definition

2281
01:21:40,310 --> 01:21:38,639
of her she's going to do what she does

2282
01:21:42,870 --> 01:21:40,320
and and one thing we've learned time and

2283
01:21:44,950 --> 01:21:42,880
time again is that um you know every

2284
01:21:48,550 --> 01:21:44,960
time we we think we have an answer we we

2285
01:21:50,790 --> 01:21:48,560
don't um and and life life

2286
01:21:52,709 --> 01:21:50,800
life shows us another side of her nature

2287
01:21:54,950 --> 01:21:52,719
shows another side of her that we we

2288
01:21:57,030 --> 01:21:54,960
weren't expecting

2289
01:22:00,070 --> 01:21:57,040
as far as quantum mechanics you know

2290
01:22:02,950 --> 01:22:00,080
it's um i i think it's i think it's very

2291
01:22:04,070 --> 01:22:02,960
important uh it's definitely beginning

2292
01:22:07,990 --> 01:22:04,080
to

2293
01:22:10,790 --> 01:22:08,000
i think become more and more accepted

2294
01:22:12,709 --> 01:22:10,800
that that that the quantum models are

2295
01:22:15,030 --> 01:22:12,719
actually probably the most accurate

2296
01:22:17,830 --> 01:22:15,040
models especially not just explaining

2297
01:22:20,070 --> 01:22:17,840
the very very small of the universe uh

2298
01:22:21,590 --> 01:22:20,080
but potentially even the very very large

2299
01:22:23,350 --> 01:22:21,600
you know there's there's other very

2300
01:22:26,310 --> 01:22:23,360
interesting if you if you know how to

2301
01:22:28,709 --> 01:22:26,320
look for look at the universe and and

2302
01:22:30,229 --> 01:22:28,719
and you know

2303
01:22:31,590 --> 01:22:30,239
i've always said before you know the

2304
01:22:34,990 --> 01:22:31,600
truth whispers

2305
01:22:36,950 --> 01:22:35,000
but if you listen you can hear her speak

2306
01:22:38,950 --> 01:22:36,960
[Music]

2307
01:22:40,950 --> 01:22:38,960
the universe has has some some

2308
01:22:42,229 --> 01:22:40,960
interesting uh blueprints if you know

2309
01:22:44,709 --> 01:22:42,239
where to find them and they're

2310
01:22:46,310 --> 01:22:44,719
consistent uh throughout everything and

2311
01:22:48,470 --> 01:22:46,320
anything let's take the world of

2312
01:22:49,270 --> 01:22:48,480
fractals for example

2313
01:22:51,430 --> 01:22:49,280
where

2314
01:22:52,790 --> 01:22:51,440
the until recently we

2315
01:22:54,149 --> 01:22:52,800
you know seems obvious but we never

2316
01:22:56,470 --> 01:22:54,159
really appreciated it you know you look

2317
01:22:58,950 --> 01:22:56,480
at the the path that a river takes down

2318
01:23:00,950 --> 01:22:58,960
a mountain and it turns out that is the

2319
01:23:03,110 --> 01:23:00,960
same pattern that lightning takes in the

2320
01:23:04,629 --> 01:23:03,120
sky it's the same pattern that a tree

2321
01:23:06,310 --> 01:23:04,639
when it's growing from its trunk it's

2322
01:23:08,790 --> 01:23:06,320
the same pattern of trees the same

2323
01:23:10,310 --> 01:23:08,800
pattern that we have in in our lungs and

2324
01:23:13,030 --> 01:23:10,320
the capillaries in our lungs it's the

2325
01:23:15,110 --> 01:23:13,040
same it's the same

2326
01:23:16,790 --> 01:23:15,120
if you will patterns that the neural

2327
01:23:18,950 --> 01:23:16,800
connections and the synapses make in our

2328
01:23:21,510 --> 01:23:18,960
brains and the connections between

2329
01:23:23,669 --> 01:23:21,520
neurons which happens to be the same

2330
01:23:26,070 --> 01:23:23,679
pattern that we see in the large super

2331
01:23:28,149 --> 01:23:26,080
cluster galaxies of the universe so from

2332
01:23:31,110 --> 01:23:28,159
the from the very very small to include

2333
01:23:33,830 --> 01:23:31,120
the the pathways of our neurons to this

2334
01:23:35,350 --> 01:23:33,840
super super huge large millions of light

2335
01:23:37,110 --> 01:23:35,360
years across

2336
01:23:39,110 --> 01:23:37,120
we're seeing the same pattern and that's

2337
01:23:40,790 --> 01:23:39,120
not even just physical because we're

2338
01:23:43,350 --> 01:23:40,800
seeing it even when you look at a linked

2339
01:23:46,149 --> 01:23:43,360
analysis and diagram of human behavior

2340
01:23:48,070 --> 01:23:46,159
and how we interact with people and and

2341
01:23:49,669 --> 01:23:48,080
those relationships that too is a

2342
01:23:52,310 --> 01:23:49,679
fractal pattern

2343
01:23:53,830 --> 01:23:52,320
so so when you see those type of things

2344
01:23:55,750 --> 01:23:53,840
in the universe

2345
01:23:58,950 --> 01:23:55,760
from the very very large the very very

2346
01:23:59,990 --> 01:23:58,960
small and and all of nature abides by it

2347
01:24:02,709 --> 01:24:00,000
uh

2348
01:24:04,390 --> 01:24:02,719
you you then have to realize that you're

2349
01:24:05,910 --> 01:24:04,400
looking at at

2350
01:24:08,070 --> 01:24:05,920
you're looking at something that's

2351
01:24:11,910 --> 01:24:08,080
that's that's very deliberate

2352
01:24:13,430 --> 01:24:11,920
and very significant uh and and

2353
01:24:15,189 --> 01:24:13,440
uh again i don't want to geek out too

2354
01:24:17,510 --> 01:24:15,199
far on this idea it sounds like you're

2355
01:24:19,430 --> 01:24:17,520
talking about source code almost like

2356
01:24:21,590 --> 01:24:19,440
it's the it's the compute it's the

2357
01:24:24,070 --> 01:24:21,600
computer programming language

2358
01:24:26,310 --> 01:24:24,080
for everything is what i my

2359
01:24:28,310 --> 01:24:26,320
interpretation of quantum physics

2360
01:24:30,310 --> 01:24:28,320
yeah it it it is go ahead guys sorry

2361
01:24:33,430 --> 01:24:30,320
about that oh i was going to say so all

2362
01:24:36,070 --> 01:24:33,440
of these uh synchronicities with nature

2363
01:24:37,430 --> 01:24:36,080
and the human body and also non-human

2364
01:24:39,430 --> 01:24:37,440
body

2365
01:24:41,910 --> 01:24:39,440
i i feel like we have to agree that that

2366
01:24:43,590 --> 01:24:41,920
human you know there's a lot of uh ideas

2367
01:24:45,110 --> 01:24:43,600
out there that humans are we are the

2368
01:24:47,590 --> 01:24:45,120
aliens right so

2369
01:24:48,750 --> 01:24:47,600
we were created and and

2370
01:24:51,350 --> 01:24:48,760
uh

2371
01:24:52,950 --> 01:24:51,360
evolutionized and we were created by

2372
01:24:55,030 --> 01:24:52,960
another person there's all kinds of

2373
01:24:58,310 --> 01:24:55,040
theories out there but i i feel like

2374
01:24:59,910 --> 01:24:58,320
that's a good reminder that a lot of the

2375
01:25:01,830 --> 01:24:59,920
same things that happen in our bodies

2376
01:25:03,910 --> 01:25:01,840
the reflections that we see in nature it

2377
01:25:05,430 --> 01:25:03,920
really kind of grounds me in a way that

2378
01:25:07,590 --> 01:25:05,440
it makes you feel a little better like

2379
01:25:09,910 --> 01:25:07,600
oh we're not so different like we are a

2380
01:25:12,709 --> 01:25:09,920
part of this universe we're not so much

2381
01:25:14,870 --> 01:25:12,719
of an outsider we are just much as part

2382
01:25:18,470 --> 01:25:14,880
of this universe as as uh the next

2383
01:25:21,110 --> 01:25:18,480
animal next to us uh so i i always find

2384
01:25:22,709 --> 01:25:21,120
that like a comforting fact yeah i mean

2385
01:25:24,709 --> 01:25:22,719
it's it's you see it in the world of

2386
01:25:26,470 --> 01:25:24,719
random chaos as well i mean what what

2387
01:25:28,629 --> 01:25:26,480
seems at our level to be random and

2388
01:25:30,149 --> 01:25:28,639
chaotic really and the grand scheme of

2389
01:25:32,950 --> 01:25:30,159
things there's a rhythm there's a

2390
01:25:34,310 --> 01:25:32,960
pattern to to everything um you know i

2391
01:25:36,310 --> 01:25:34,320
don't want to get too philosophical

2392
01:25:38,470 --> 01:25:36,320
because i'm certainly not qualified to

2393
01:25:40,629 --> 01:25:38,480
lead a philosophical conversation but

2394
01:25:43,030 --> 01:25:40,639
but there's there seems to be this this

2395
01:25:45,270 --> 01:25:43,040
this ebb and flow in the universe and

2396
01:25:47,030 --> 01:25:45,280
and you have these distinct patterns and

2397
01:25:47,910 --> 01:25:47,040
rhythms if you will of frequencies that

2398
01:25:50,550 --> 01:25:47,920
occur

2399
01:25:52,470 --> 01:25:50,560
and and random chaos is is you know

2400
01:25:54,950 --> 01:25:52,480
another one of those those those little

2401
01:25:57,510 --> 01:25:54,960
aha moments like like fractal universe

2402
01:26:00,709 --> 01:25:57,520
where you begin to realize what seems

2403
01:26:04,070 --> 01:26:00,719
random and disparate at the micro level

2404
01:26:06,149 --> 01:26:04,080
uh really is quite orderly and um you

2405
01:26:08,629 --> 01:26:06,159
know it's it's not so random after all

2406
01:26:11,910 --> 01:26:08,639
to include human behavior and and and

2407
01:26:14,870 --> 01:26:11,920
patterns and seasons to you know

2408
01:26:17,990 --> 01:26:14,880
everything um even leaves on a tree

2409
01:26:20,390 --> 01:26:18,000
uh the fingerprint of a of a of a human

2410
01:26:22,550 --> 01:26:20,400
finger there's there's there's symmetry

2411
01:26:25,830 --> 01:26:22,560
there even even in the chaos and the

2412
01:26:27,030 --> 01:26:25,840
noise there is still order um and you

2413
01:26:29,669 --> 01:26:27,040
know once

2414
01:26:31,430 --> 01:26:29,679
once you begin to to see that in nature

2415
01:26:33,189 --> 01:26:31,440
and see that in life and see that in

2416
01:26:34,229 --> 01:26:33,199
human behavior

2417
01:26:35,990 --> 01:26:34,239
um

2418
01:26:37,590 --> 01:26:36,000
things tend to make maybe a little bit

2419
01:26:38,870 --> 01:26:37,600
more sense

2420
01:26:40,310 --> 01:26:38,880
we realize we really are part of

2421
01:26:42,629 --> 01:26:40,320
something much much much bigger much

2422
01:26:43,830 --> 01:26:42,639
much greater

2423
01:26:47,669 --> 01:26:43,840
love that

2424
01:26:52,070 --> 01:26:47,679
oh yeah i gotta go to the bathroom so

2425
01:26:55,110 --> 01:26:53,270
i know that there's there's a lot of

2426
01:26:58,149 --> 01:26:55,120
people that have written in questions

2427
01:27:00,550 --> 01:26:58,159
and i know that one of the top ones is

2428
01:27:02,149 --> 01:27:00,560
have you been able to review uh jeremy

2429
01:27:05,590 --> 01:27:02,159
corbell who should be a guest on this

2430
01:27:09,030 --> 01:27:05,600
show uh called them jeremy

2431
01:27:10,550 --> 01:27:09,040
we've only misses that guy like 50 times

2432
01:27:14,149 --> 01:27:10,560
but have you been able to look at the

2433
01:27:16,070 --> 01:27:14,159
radar data and that he put out today and

2434
01:27:17,910 --> 01:27:16,080
can you interpret it for us because that

2435
01:27:20,870 --> 01:27:17,920
is it looks like a video game to me i'm

2436
01:27:22,629 --> 01:27:20,880
just not versed in what radar data means

2437
01:27:24,390 --> 01:27:22,639
it is it is real radar data i have to be

2438
01:27:26,070 --> 01:27:24,400
very careful to comment because here's

2439
01:27:27,510 --> 01:27:26,080
the reason why

2440
01:27:29,750 --> 01:27:27,520
the government has already acknowledged

2441
01:27:32,310 --> 01:27:29,760
it it's from a government system i still

2442
01:27:34,149 --> 01:27:32,320
have a security clearance um i i am not

2443
01:27:35,590 --> 01:27:34,159
authorized to talk about

2444
01:27:37,189 --> 01:27:35,600
government business

2445
01:27:39,270 --> 01:27:37,199
unless i'm authorized to talk about

2446
01:27:41,990 --> 01:27:39,280
government business like that um this is

2447
01:27:44,470 --> 01:27:42,000
a very specific radar system taken from

2448
01:27:47,430 --> 01:27:44,480
a very specific uh location at a very

2449
01:27:50,629 --> 01:27:47,440
specific time and and it contains very

2450
01:27:53,270 --> 01:27:50,639
specific data and and i i want to be

2451
01:27:56,149 --> 01:27:53,280
careful i don't cross that line into

2452
01:27:59,110 --> 01:27:56,159
start offering my analysis of of us

2453
01:28:01,270 --> 01:27:59,120
government property um because

2454
01:28:02,790 --> 01:28:01,280
uh the the government hasn't decided to

2455
01:28:05,189 --> 01:28:02,800
talk about it they simply said yes they

2456
01:28:08,390 --> 01:28:05,199
acknowledged it that it's real uh and

2457
01:28:09,990 --> 01:28:08,400
therefore um you know that's

2458
01:28:11,990 --> 01:28:10,000
that's as far as they're willing to go

2459
01:28:13,830 --> 01:28:12,000
and and i have to respect that

2460
01:28:15,350 --> 01:28:13,840
okay well i i guess i'm not asking for

2461
01:28:17,510 --> 01:28:15,360
like a technical review of it but i'm

2462
01:28:19,750 --> 01:28:17,520
just can you help me put it in context

2463
01:28:21,669 --> 01:28:19,760
for me the significance of that footage

2464
01:28:24,310 --> 01:28:21,679
what does that mean to the current

2465
01:28:27,910 --> 01:28:24,320
situation we're in yeah so let me let me

2466
01:28:30,709 --> 01:28:27,920
say any radar data is is is a data point

2467
01:28:34,070 --> 01:28:30,719
um quite literally uh you are looking at

2468
01:28:36,149 --> 01:28:34,080
something that is reflecting a signature

2469
01:28:38,550 --> 01:28:36,159
from the electromagnetic spectrum okay

2470
01:28:41,110 --> 01:28:38,560
you are you are shooting whether it be

2471
01:28:43,189 --> 01:28:41,120
microwave or you know x-band k-band

2472
01:28:45,750 --> 01:28:43,199
y-band uh

2473
01:28:49,110 --> 01:28:45,760
electromagnetic frequencies at an object

2474
01:28:50,950 --> 01:28:49,120
and that object then is bouncing back uh

2475
01:28:52,870 --> 01:28:50,960
reflecting just like visible light when

2476
01:28:56,149 --> 01:28:52,880
you see a plane in the sky

2477
01:28:57,350 --> 01:28:56,159
is is reflecting back a

2478
01:28:59,110 --> 01:28:57,360
signal

2479
01:29:01,910 --> 01:28:59,120
at a particular frequency

2480
01:29:04,229 --> 01:29:01,920
and that's how the systems work and and

2481
01:29:06,310 --> 01:29:04,239
and the more of these sets when you have

2482
01:29:08,870 --> 01:29:06,320
an array versus just a singular radar

2483
01:29:11,990 --> 01:29:08,880
but an array of these radars now you

2484
01:29:13,430 --> 01:29:12,000
have multiple systems doing the same

2485
01:29:15,270 --> 01:29:13,440
thing so you have redundancy and you

2486
01:29:16,790 --> 01:29:15,280
have accuracy okay so that's what most

2487
01:29:20,070 --> 01:29:16,800
people don't understand this is not just

2488
01:29:22,629 --> 01:29:20,080
a radar system it's it's it's it's a

2489
01:29:24,709 --> 01:29:22,639
it's a collection platform that yes it

2490
01:29:27,430 --> 01:29:24,719
takes in radar but it's also taking a

2491
01:29:28,229 --> 01:29:27,440
lot more data to it's not just just just

2492
01:29:31,750 --> 01:29:28,239
that

2493
01:29:34,950 --> 01:29:31,760
and what you're seeing is a a very real

2494
01:29:37,110 --> 01:29:34,960
object that is providing a return

2495
01:29:39,830 --> 01:29:37,120
back to the radar system so it is a real

2496
01:29:41,430 --> 01:29:39,840
it's not a it's not a a ghost in the

2497
01:29:44,229 --> 01:29:41,440
machine it's not some sort of

2498
01:29:47,110 --> 01:29:44,239
atmospheric or weather anomaly uh it is

2499
01:29:48,790 --> 01:29:47,120
a real genuine object and then what you

2500
01:29:51,510 --> 01:29:48,800
have to do is make sure that information

2501
01:29:54,070 --> 01:29:51,520
correlates hopefully with with other

2502
01:29:56,870 --> 01:29:54,080
data such as gun camera footage or or

2503
01:29:59,910 --> 01:29:56,880
eyewitness testimony so when

2504
01:30:02,550 --> 01:29:59,920
the pilot or the observer says it was

2505
01:30:05,270 --> 01:30:02,560
going you know three i was doing a

2506
01:30:07,510 --> 01:30:05,280
vector of 355 and then all of a sudden

2507
01:30:08,790 --> 01:30:07,520
did a left-hand turn and went to 270

2508
01:30:10,470 --> 01:30:08,800
instantly

2509
01:30:11,990 --> 01:30:10,480
you can be able to corroborate that on

2510
01:30:13,750 --> 01:30:12,000
the radar if that's what you're indeed

2511
01:30:15,430 --> 01:30:13,760
seeing right and so now you have you

2512
01:30:17,270 --> 01:30:15,440
have you have the data backing each

2513
01:30:20,229 --> 01:30:17,280
other up and whatnot

2514
01:30:22,229 --> 01:30:20,239
um again i i know i'm not answering your

2515
01:30:23,669 --> 01:30:22,239
question i i'm doing it deliberately

2516
01:30:25,830 --> 01:30:23,679
because i have to be careful i can't

2517
01:30:27,110 --> 01:30:25,840
talk about that specific incident so

2518
01:30:29,030 --> 01:30:27,120
what i'm doing is talking in more

2519
01:30:30,629 --> 01:30:29,040
general terms and and how these systems

2520
01:30:32,550 --> 01:30:30,639
work and the fidelity and the accuracy

2521
01:30:33,990 --> 01:30:32,560
and the reliability of these systems

2522
01:30:35,510 --> 01:30:34,000
which are are some of the best on the

2523
01:30:37,830 --> 01:30:35,520
planet um

2524
01:30:39,750 --> 01:30:37,840
you know a lot of these radar radars now

2525
01:30:41,350 --> 01:30:39,760
are are taking data not just from the

2526
01:30:42,550 --> 01:30:41,360
their radar system itself but they're

2527
01:30:44,950 --> 01:30:42,560
incorporating

2528
01:30:47,830 --> 01:30:44,960
uh feeds from from ground-based radar

2529
01:30:49,910 --> 01:30:47,840
and airborne radar uh and and other

2530
01:30:51,990 --> 01:30:49,920
radar to give you a common operating

2531
01:30:53,430 --> 01:30:52,000
picture right uh they give it think

2532
01:30:54,790 --> 01:30:53,440
about a lot of different radars looking

2533
01:30:57,270 --> 01:30:54,800
at the same thing at the same time you

2534
01:30:58,870 --> 01:30:57,280
get better telemetry yeah and and

2535
01:31:00,629 --> 01:30:58,880
whatnot um so

2536
01:31:03,030 --> 01:31:00,639
that's that's really what these systems

2537
01:31:05,910 --> 01:31:03,040
do

2538
01:31:07,830 --> 01:31:05,920
so lou you you know you talk about the

2539
01:31:10,310 --> 01:31:07,840
security clearance and stuff still still

2540
01:31:13,270 --> 01:31:10,320
being like still holding that like not

2541
01:31:14,629 --> 01:31:13,280
that you ever would but can you be like

2542
01:31:16,709 --> 01:31:14,639
hey

2543
01:31:18,310 --> 01:31:16,719
can you guys have this back like

2544
01:31:20,390 --> 01:31:18,320
can you give that back to them he'd just

2545
01:31:21,750 --> 01:31:20,400
be like hey i don't really want this i

2546
01:31:23,510 --> 01:31:21,760
don't want to hold this anymore can you

2547
01:31:26,229 --> 01:31:23,520
guys thank you yeah

2548
01:31:28,470 --> 01:31:26,239
i've tried that didn't go so well oh man

2549
01:31:30,950 --> 01:31:28,480
they're like no that's yours you have to

2550
01:31:33,030 --> 01:31:30,960
hold on to it yeah that's responsibility

2551
01:31:37,750 --> 01:31:33,040
but i don't want it anymore yeah it's a

2552
01:31:39,510 --> 01:31:37,760
lifelong commitment oh man yeah

2553
01:31:41,030 --> 01:31:39,520
you know and i i wouldn't violate that

2554
01:31:43,910 --> 01:31:41,040
and you know people say well but you're

2555
01:31:45,990 --> 01:31:43,920
doing it for the good of of humanity but

2556
01:31:48,790 --> 01:31:46,000
but i'm not you know i i can't break the

2557
01:31:50,870 --> 01:31:48,800
law to to to to enforce the law that's

2558
01:31:52,629 --> 01:31:50,880
not the way it works and so for me that

2559
01:31:54,709 --> 01:31:52,639
that oath that i took that security oath

2560
01:31:57,350 --> 01:31:54,719
wasn't just an oath to my boss or my

2561
01:31:58,709 --> 01:31:57,360
supervisor or even my government it was

2562
01:32:00,629 --> 01:31:58,719
an oath to you

2563
01:32:03,189 --> 01:32:00,639
and and it's like a marriage and if i'm

2564
01:32:04,950 --> 01:32:03,199
willing to to break that oath even just

2565
01:32:06,550 --> 01:32:04,960
one time then

2566
01:32:08,470 --> 01:32:06,560
then it doesn't mean anything then at

2567
01:32:10,390 --> 01:32:08,480
that point then then i might as well

2568
01:32:11,990 --> 01:32:10,400
have a security clearance at all and

2569
01:32:13,669 --> 01:32:12,000
and talk about anything and everything

2570
01:32:15,910 --> 01:32:13,679
and and so you know it's not like well

2571
01:32:17,910 --> 01:32:15,920
you can just break it this one time it

2572
01:32:19,510 --> 01:32:17,920
doesn't work that way it it's it's a

2573
01:32:22,149 --> 01:32:19,520
sacred oath it's a promise that i've

2574
01:32:23,910 --> 01:32:22,159
made to the american people and and i

2575
01:32:27,910 --> 01:32:23,920
can't break that oath to the american

2576
01:32:30,470 --> 01:32:27,920
people that i've made simply to to to

2577
01:32:32,229 --> 01:32:30,480
tell them something this is i truly

2578
01:32:33,669 --> 01:32:32,239
believe this is we are where we are

2579
01:32:35,030 --> 01:32:33,679
because

2580
01:32:36,629 --> 01:32:35,040
it's working the way it's supposed to

2581
01:32:38,629 --> 01:32:36,639
work i haven't had to violate my

2582
01:32:41,110 --> 01:32:38,639
security oath and we're still having

2583
01:32:43,830 --> 01:32:41,120
this conversation and and you know every

2584
01:32:46,310 --> 01:32:43,840
day new information is coming out so

2585
01:32:47,750 --> 01:32:46,320
that's really it it's a very delicate

2586
01:32:49,510 --> 01:32:47,760
balancing act it's like threading the

2587
01:32:51,830 --> 01:32:49,520
needle every day because i know every

2588
01:32:53,430 --> 01:32:51,840
day i wake up and i'm talking to media

2589
01:32:55,590 --> 01:32:53,440
there's someone back at the pentagon you

2590
01:32:57,430 --> 01:32:55,600
know trying to play gotcha and trying to

2591
01:32:59,750 --> 01:32:57,440
to demonstrate that i violated my

2592
01:33:01,270 --> 01:32:59,760
security oath somehow all right and and

2593
01:33:03,270 --> 01:33:01,280
that stops me from talking because at

2594
01:33:05,110 --> 01:33:03,280
that point then they can put me in jail

2595
01:33:06,390 --> 01:33:05,120
you know and then and then you know it

2596
01:33:07,910 --> 01:33:06,400
was so

2597
01:33:09,830 --> 01:33:07,920
then on the flip side like you still

2598
01:33:11,750 --> 01:33:09,840
have the security clearance can you like

2599
01:33:13,669 --> 01:33:11,760
go somewhere and be like hey tell me

2600
01:33:15,189 --> 01:33:13,679
about that i still have a security

2601
01:33:17,189 --> 01:33:15,199
clearance

2602
01:33:18,950 --> 01:33:17,199
if i have a demonstrated need to know

2603
01:33:22,629 --> 01:33:18,960
absolutely

2604
01:33:24,870 --> 01:33:22,639
has tom delong taken that same oath no

2605
01:33:27,110 --> 01:33:24,880
no okay all right so

2606
01:33:28,950 --> 01:33:27,120
i mean he's definitely not i mean he's

2607
01:33:30,950 --> 01:33:28,960
obviously obviously connected but he

2608
01:33:33,350 --> 01:33:30,960
hasn't like a security clearance he does

2609
01:33:34,229 --> 01:33:33,360
not have a security clearance yeah wow

2610
01:33:35,110 --> 01:33:34,239
okay

2611
01:33:37,750 --> 01:33:35,120
all right

2612
01:33:39,830 --> 01:33:37,760
on his door

2613
01:33:42,870 --> 01:33:39,840
he's got a ring doorbell camera but he

2614
01:33:44,790 --> 01:33:42,880
does play the guitar

2615
01:33:46,870 --> 01:33:44,800
he's a good dude he does he's a great

2616
01:33:51,669 --> 01:33:46,880
guy

2617
01:33:52,390 --> 01:33:51,679
he's done a lot for this conversation

2618
01:33:54,470 --> 01:33:52,400
too

2619
01:33:55,590 --> 01:33:54,480
i mean oh for sure a lot of a lot of

2620
01:33:56,870 --> 01:33:55,600
where we are

2621
01:33:58,709 --> 01:33:56,880
began with him

2622
01:34:00,390 --> 01:33:58,719
i i kind of wanted to bring this up at

2623
01:34:02,229 --> 01:34:00,400
the beginning of the thing but i felt

2624
01:34:04,229 --> 01:34:02,239
like it was maybe too soon but

2625
01:34:06,950 --> 01:34:04,239
we've definitely given ttsa a bunch of

2626
01:34:08,550 --> 01:34:06,960
[\h__\h] you know i mean i'll admit that i

2627
01:34:09,910 --> 01:34:08,560
mean everybody that listens to our show

2628
01:34:11,510 --> 01:34:09,920
knows that at the beginning because we

2629
01:34:13,990 --> 01:34:11,520
just didn't know

2630
01:34:14,870 --> 01:34:14,000
we just felt like oh man i want to know

2631
01:34:18,390 --> 01:34:14,880
and

2632
01:34:20,390 --> 01:34:18,400
there's some like oh man

2633
01:34:23,110 --> 01:34:20,400
uh why don't they just let us know and

2634
01:34:24,870 --> 01:34:23,120
oh they whatever but they really did

2635
01:34:27,910 --> 01:34:24,880
start you guys did start the

2636
01:34:32,790 --> 01:34:27,920
conversation i mean it it became more in

2637
01:34:37,669 --> 01:34:34,629
we were never intended to finish the

2638
01:34:40,070 --> 01:34:37,679
conversation the conversation began

2639
01:34:42,229 --> 01:34:40,080
but i don't ever want people to confuse

2640
01:34:44,229 --> 01:34:42,239
that all of a sudden it makes us the

2641
01:34:45,430 --> 01:34:44,239
authority on the subject right because

2642
01:34:46,870 --> 01:34:45,440
it doesn't

2643
01:34:48,950 --> 01:34:46,880
absolutely yes absolutely i might have

2644
01:34:50,229 --> 01:34:48,960
misspoke on that joe i mean no you

2645
01:34:51,590 --> 01:34:50,239
didn't you didn't i just wanted to make

2646
01:34:53,109 --> 01:34:51,600
it clear because i

2647
01:34:54,790 --> 01:34:53,119
i think people say well you guys started

2648
01:34:56,870 --> 01:34:54,800
the conversation and you know it's all

2649
01:34:58,470 --> 01:34:56,880
because of you well

2650
01:35:00,629 --> 01:34:58,480
we started a conversation but it's not

2651
01:35:02,470 --> 01:35:00,639
all because of us it's because of it's

2652
01:35:04,470 --> 01:35:02,480
because of the collective everyone out

2653
01:35:06,629 --> 01:35:04,480
here that's that's doing it yeah it was

2654
01:35:08,550 --> 01:35:06,639
like the it was the collection of like

2655
01:35:09,990 --> 01:35:08,560
heavy people that

2656
01:35:14,870 --> 01:35:10,000
would

2657
01:35:17,189 --> 01:35:14,880
to be that credible source right it was

2658
01:35:18,950 --> 01:35:17,199
just uh such a collection of those type

2659
01:35:20,950 --> 01:35:18,960
of people that was

2660
01:35:22,870 --> 01:35:20,960
able to like kind of spark the

2661
01:35:24,390 --> 01:35:22,880
conversation it's not like starting it

2662
01:35:26,470 --> 01:35:24,400
like the conversation has been going on

2663
01:35:28,229 --> 01:35:26,480
forever this is just the first time we

2664
01:35:29,030 --> 01:35:28,239
were able to have this collection of

2665
01:35:32,149 --> 01:35:29,040
like

2666
01:35:35,189 --> 01:35:32,159
people you would assume in the know

2667
01:35:37,990 --> 01:35:35,199
right that would seem to be credible and

2668
01:35:39,590 --> 01:35:38,000
so yeah obviously that's that's a big

2669
01:35:41,830 --> 01:35:39,600
impact now the

2670
01:35:42,950 --> 01:35:41,840
the rest of the story doesn't really

2671
01:35:45,669 --> 01:35:42,960
even matter

2672
01:35:48,149 --> 01:35:45,679
the key point to that was that yes it

2673
01:35:50,870 --> 01:35:48,159
did get more stuff you know the ball

2674
01:35:53,270 --> 01:35:50,880
rolling a little bit and and and it did

2675
01:35:55,990 --> 01:35:53,280
help a lot now what you think about it

2676
01:35:57,990 --> 01:35:56,000
other than that on the in-between stuff

2677
01:36:00,149 --> 01:35:58,000
i mean that's all personal opinion you

2678
01:36:03,109 --> 01:36:00,159
know look i've told people you sometimes

2679
01:36:05,590 --> 01:36:03,119
you need a bullhorn in a crowded room

2680
01:36:07,350 --> 01:36:05,600
and that's exactly what ttsa was

2681
01:36:09,270 --> 01:36:07,360
um i've often told you know people say

2682
01:36:11,030 --> 01:36:09,280
well is it isn't uh

2683
01:36:12,790 --> 01:36:11,040
isn't tom a little bit like a bull in

2684
01:36:14,709 --> 01:36:12,800
the china shop and i said no actually

2685
01:36:17,270 --> 01:36:14,719
tom's like a hand grenade in the crystal

2686
01:36:19,990 --> 01:36:17,280
punch bowl uh but but sometimes you need

2687
01:36:21,350 --> 01:36:20,000
that sometimes you need that that that i

2688
01:36:23,350 --> 01:36:21,360
don't want to say destructive i want to

2689
01:36:26,550 --> 01:36:23,360
say is disruptive

2690
01:36:27,990 --> 01:36:26,560
force to get the attention of people um

2691
01:36:30,709 --> 01:36:28,000
and again there is a difference between

2692
01:36:34,550 --> 01:36:30,719
being destructive and being disruptive

2693
01:36:37,350 --> 01:36:34,560
yeah and and ttsa was a disruptive force

2694
01:36:38,870 --> 01:36:37,360
at a time that i think was was needed

2695
01:36:41,189 --> 01:36:38,880
yeah

2696
01:36:42,709 --> 01:36:41,199
all right so i can i gotta ask for one

2697
01:36:46,390 --> 01:36:42,719
favor real quick lou

2698
01:36:48,550 --> 01:36:46,400
yeah when when you left ttsa i feel like

2699
01:36:50,950 --> 01:36:48,560
you quick shifted from first to second

2700
01:36:52,790 --> 01:36:50,960
gear and it caught me off guard i

2701
01:36:55,590 --> 01:36:52,800
thought we had lost you

2702
01:36:57,030 --> 01:36:55,600
and it i was so worried about what was

2703
01:36:58,870 --> 01:36:57,040
coming next

2704
01:37:01,030 --> 01:36:58,880
so when it's time

2705
01:37:03,109 --> 01:37:01,040
to shift from second to third can you

2706
01:37:05,990 --> 01:37:03,119
give us a little bit of a heads up so we

2707
01:37:07,510 --> 01:37:06,000
know to brace ourselves because and when

2708
01:37:10,229 --> 01:37:07,520
is that coming

2709
01:37:11,669 --> 01:37:10,239
uh you know uh as a gear ahead guys i'll

2710
01:37:14,310 --> 01:37:11,679
tell you you know

2711
01:37:16,629 --> 01:37:14,320
uh third is never far behind from second

2712
01:37:17,830 --> 01:37:16,639
uh you know you as your rpm increases

2713
01:37:19,350 --> 01:37:17,840
and increases

2714
01:37:21,270 --> 01:37:19,360
uh when you start hearing that engine

2715
01:37:23,270 --> 01:37:21,280
really start to whine

2716
01:37:25,109 --> 01:37:23,280
you can expect third gear is coming real

2717
01:37:27,150 --> 01:37:25,119
real soon i've been hearing a lot of

2718
01:37:28,950 --> 01:37:27,160
whining lately so i think that

2719
01:37:31,270 --> 01:37:28,960
[Laughter]

2720
01:37:34,149 --> 01:37:31,280
well you know that's nice dan

2721
01:37:36,390 --> 01:37:34,159
there you go uh you know uh we've got a

2722
01:37:39,910 --> 01:37:36,400
six-speed transmission in this baby

2723
01:37:43,350 --> 01:37:39,920
so uh you know it's it's we're we're

2724
01:37:45,109 --> 01:37:43,360
everything is is is moving along uh uh

2725
01:37:46,870 --> 01:37:45,119
on schedule uh per plan don't read too

2726
01:37:48,550 --> 01:37:46,880
much interest ah schedule see lou's got

2727
01:37:49,990 --> 01:37:48,560
some great master plan and he's a you

2728
01:37:52,229 --> 01:37:50,000
know working

2729
01:37:53,270 --> 01:37:52,239
what i'm saying is simply that that

2730
01:37:54,790 --> 01:37:53,280
that

2731
01:37:56,550 --> 01:37:54,800
hopefully people can appreciate now

2732
01:37:58,390 --> 01:37:56,560
we're very deliberate what we do this is

2733
01:37:59,510 --> 01:37:58,400
not haphazard this is not just you know

2734
01:38:00,470 --> 01:37:59,520
lou thinks

2735
01:38:02,790 --> 01:38:00,480
um

2736
01:38:04,149 --> 01:38:02,800
we we have some very smart people chris

2737
01:38:06,390 --> 01:38:04,159
mellon i've got some people that are

2738
01:38:07,590 --> 01:38:06,400
working with me very good people i'm not

2739
01:38:08,870 --> 01:38:07,600
going to say their last names because i

2740
01:38:12,229 --> 01:38:08,880
don't want to die them out but i've got

2741
01:38:13,030 --> 01:38:12,239
folks like jake and jess and and shawn

2742
01:38:15,750 --> 01:38:13,040
uh

2743
01:38:18,310 --> 01:38:15,760
who are very helpful chris mellon who

2744
01:38:20,629 --> 01:38:18,320
everybody does know uh and a few others

2745
01:38:23,669 --> 01:38:20,639
that have been helping uh

2746
01:38:26,950 --> 01:38:23,679
with the with the deliberate um

2747
01:38:28,790 --> 01:38:26,960
implementation of of disclosure talking

2748
01:38:30,870 --> 01:38:28,800
to elements in our congress talking to

2749
01:38:33,430 --> 01:38:30,880
elements our senior leaders in the

2750
01:38:35,189 --> 01:38:33,440
executive branch talking to uh our

2751
01:38:36,950 --> 01:38:35,199
foreign friends and allies talking to

2752
01:38:39,270 --> 01:38:36,960
the media and ultimately

2753
01:38:41,510 --> 01:38:39,280
talking to to the american public it's

2754
01:38:43,350 --> 01:38:41,520
it's you know it's this is not instant

2755
01:38:44,709 --> 01:38:43,360
gratification this is not going to

2756
01:38:45,830 --> 01:38:44,719
happen

2757
01:38:47,590 --> 01:38:45,840
tomorrow

2758
01:38:49,270 --> 01:38:47,600
but i think if we just take a deep

2759
01:38:50,149 --> 01:38:49,280
breath and look back over the last three

2760
01:38:52,709 --> 01:38:50,159
years

2761
01:38:54,709 --> 01:38:52,719
you know we we've we've come pretty far

2762
01:38:56,229 --> 01:38:54,719
up the mountain already i mean we've

2763
01:38:58,229 --> 01:38:56,239
we're getting a pretty damn good view

2764
01:38:59,910 --> 01:38:58,239
right now of the horizon that we've

2765
01:39:01,750 --> 01:38:59,920
we've never really been able to enjoy

2766
01:39:03,189 --> 01:39:01,760
before now it's no time to quit we can't

2767
01:39:05,750 --> 01:39:03,199
just sit there kick our feet up and be

2768
01:39:07,669 --> 01:39:05,760
like ah we did it because we didn't

2769
01:39:09,910 --> 01:39:07,679
but we're definitely a lot farther now

2770
01:39:11,669 --> 01:39:09,920
collectively than i think we were

2771
01:39:13,830 --> 01:39:11,679
just just a few years ago

2772
01:39:15,430 --> 01:39:13,840
without a doubt no there's no question

2773
01:39:17,030 --> 01:39:15,440
about that we are

2774
01:39:18,550 --> 01:39:17,040
light years ahead of where we were three

2775
01:39:21,270 --> 01:39:18,560
years ago

2776
01:39:23,750 --> 01:39:21,280
absolutely it's almost as if like

2777
01:39:26,149 --> 01:39:23,760
i mean i'm sure i i probably heard this

2778
01:39:27,669 --> 01:39:26,159
somewhere but like covet kind of like

2779
01:39:29,990 --> 01:39:27,679
like uh

2780
01:39:32,229 --> 01:39:30,000
wore us down and this past year has been

2781
01:39:34,470 --> 01:39:32,239
so crazy that like oh and then oh

2782
01:39:36,470 --> 01:39:34,480
there's the pentagon's uh saying that

2783
01:39:38,229 --> 01:39:36,480
there's aliens and the the government's

2784
01:39:40,390 --> 01:39:38,239
saying yeah yeah yeah

2785
01:39:42,550 --> 01:39:40,400
we're so desensitized by it it's almost

2786
01:39:44,310 --> 01:39:42,560
like yeah it's a kind of perfect timing

2787
01:39:46,390 --> 01:39:44,320
and it almost i mean you did say

2788
01:39:49,109 --> 01:39:46,400
yourself like this is very deliberate

2789
01:39:51,189 --> 01:39:49,119
it does make sense uh there is no mass

2790
01:39:52,550 --> 01:39:51,199
panic which is great right like

2791
01:39:54,470 --> 01:39:52,560
everybody that's been into this stuff

2792
01:39:55,669 --> 01:39:54,480
like like everybody probably listen to

2793
01:39:57,430 --> 01:39:55,679
the show

2794
01:39:59,350 --> 01:39:57,440
man we wouldn't

2795
01:40:01,669 --> 01:39:59,360
we'd be fine but

2796
01:40:04,229 --> 01:40:01,679
back you know circle back uh to to the

2797
01:40:06,149 --> 01:40:04,239
masses yeah if they one day abruptly

2798
01:40:08,070 --> 01:40:06,159
heard about it saying you know the

2799
01:40:09,750 --> 01:40:08,080
government says that there are things in

2800
01:40:11,350 --> 01:40:09,760
the skies that we have no idea where

2801
01:40:13,350 --> 01:40:11,360
they come from or the technology that

2802
01:40:15,910 --> 01:40:13,360
they use to do the things they do

2803
01:40:18,550 --> 01:40:15,920
people would freak out like ah

2804
01:40:19,430 --> 01:40:18,560
and it makes sense like no it's cool

2805
01:40:20,550 --> 01:40:19,440
it's like

2806
01:40:24,149 --> 01:40:20,560
i think

2807
01:40:25,750 --> 01:40:24,159
there's there's this this battle fatigue

2808
01:40:28,390 --> 01:40:25,760
people have been so

2809
01:40:30,070 --> 01:40:28,400
overstimulated with covid and and and

2810
01:40:32,390 --> 01:40:30,080
you know a new election a new

2811
01:40:33,990 --> 01:40:32,400
administration and and all sorts of

2812
01:40:36,629 --> 01:40:34,000
crisis du jour

2813
01:40:39,189 --> 01:40:36,639
that people are just kind of like meh

2814
01:40:41,189 --> 01:40:39,199
which you know is maybe not a bad thing

2815
01:40:43,430 --> 01:40:41,199
crisis does your needs to be on a tv

2816
01:40:45,669 --> 01:40:43,440
yeah that sounds delicious that's a new

2817
01:40:47,350 --> 01:40:45,679
t-shirt man i'll take two of those

2818
01:40:48,709 --> 01:40:47,360
please yes

2819
01:40:50,790 --> 01:40:48,719
no you're getting a you're getting a

2820
01:40:52,070 --> 01:40:50,800
t-shirt yeah by the way since you've

2821
01:40:53,669 --> 01:40:52,080
been on the show you're now a doctor

2822
01:40:56,070 --> 01:40:53,679
scientist yes officially that's the

2823
01:40:57,910 --> 01:40:56,080
thing on our show uh it's uh

2824
01:40:59,910 --> 01:40:57,920
uh so we'll send you a t-shirt if we

2825
01:41:00,870 --> 01:40:59,920
we'll talk off doctor scientist yeah

2826
01:41:02,790 --> 01:41:00,880
yeah yeah

2827
01:41:04,470 --> 01:41:02,800
the official official doctor scientist

2828
01:41:05,910 --> 01:41:04,480
t-shirt man we're gonna have to put it

2829
01:41:08,550 --> 01:41:05,920
your new nickname is gonna be full

2830
01:41:09,430 --> 01:41:08,560
throttle man yeah lou full throttle

2831
01:41:11,590 --> 01:41:09,440
yeah

2832
01:41:13,350 --> 01:41:11,600
elizondo man did you put full throttle

2833
01:41:16,390 --> 01:41:13,360
on it dude

2834
01:41:18,390 --> 01:41:16,400
i was uh i was told uh i guess uh was it

2835
01:41:20,870 --> 01:41:18,400
alex she's always teaching she said i'm

2836
01:41:23,510 --> 01:41:20,880
always you know i'm always that pinged

2837
01:41:26,870 --> 01:41:23,520
at 11 uh between you know one scale of

2838
01:41:29,030 --> 01:41:26,880
one to ten lose always at 11.

2839
01:41:31,830 --> 01:41:29,040
hey man only certain things go to 11.

2840
01:41:34,950 --> 01:41:31,840
you know we all know yeah yes man this

2841
01:41:37,030 --> 01:41:34,960
one so dude i mean hey so

2842
01:41:41,030 --> 01:41:37,040
you know now that you're not doing the

2843
01:41:41,830 --> 01:41:41,040
the the ttsa stuff i mean you know me

2844
01:41:43,510 --> 01:41:41,840
ben

2845
01:41:45,030 --> 01:41:43,520
we've been doing some work

2846
01:41:46,629 --> 01:41:45,040
lately you know

2847
01:41:48,470 --> 01:41:46,639
been kind of fooling around with you

2848
01:41:51,030 --> 01:41:48,480
know maybe maybe just starting our own

2849
01:41:52,229 --> 01:41:51,040
little thing and uh and we want to see

2850
01:41:53,510 --> 01:41:52,239
what you what you think about it man

2851
01:41:56,070 --> 01:41:53,520
we're going to screen share it for you

2852
01:41:58,550 --> 01:41:56,080
right now okay it's pretty impressive

2853
01:42:00,950 --> 01:41:58,560
i'm not going to lie i mean we've we've

2854
01:42:02,470 --> 01:42:00,960
uh we've put a lot into this so

2855
01:42:06,390 --> 01:42:02,480
let's see here

2856
01:42:10,790 --> 01:42:08,790
a screen share yeah awesome i think so

2857
01:42:13,430 --> 01:42:10,800
so we have to the farts academy and

2858
01:42:15,830 --> 01:42:13,440
we're talking about uh you know

2859
01:42:17,830 --> 01:42:15,840
new propulsion systems and uh and and

2860
01:42:20,550 --> 01:42:17,840
basically you know changing the world

2861
01:42:22,790 --> 01:42:20,560
with with uh with our own gas

2862
01:42:24,870 --> 01:42:22,800
i think you need more more more cowbell

2863
01:42:27,109 --> 01:42:24,880
for sure

2864
01:42:28,310 --> 01:42:27,119
a little bit more but at the end of it

2865
01:42:30,229 --> 01:42:28,320
yeah we're going to be making gold

2866
01:42:32,070 --> 01:42:30,239
records for sure gold records we're

2867
01:42:33,750 --> 01:42:32,080
unlocking potential i mean there's so

2868
01:42:35,750 --> 01:42:33,760
much stuff that we have going on right

2869
01:42:37,669 --> 01:42:35,760
now and uh you know

2870
01:42:39,669 --> 01:42:37,679
this is what the website looks looks

2871
01:42:42,070 --> 01:42:39,679
like right before the lawsuit it's

2872
01:42:43,109 --> 01:42:42,080
awesome

2873
01:42:44,709 --> 01:42:43,119
yeah right

2874
01:42:46,550 --> 01:42:44,719
no i think you guys were good i think it

2875
01:42:48,709 --> 01:42:46,560
looks completely different than you know

2876
01:42:50,790 --> 01:42:48,719
that that other organization you know

2877
01:42:52,709 --> 01:42:50,800
that has a similar name but but you know

2878
01:42:54,709 --> 01:42:52,719
whose name we shall not mention yeah you

2879
01:42:57,430 --> 01:42:54,719
can get your bachelor of arts in science

2880
01:42:59,669 --> 01:42:57,440
at to the arts academy um you and dan

2881
01:43:01,270 --> 01:42:59,679
are more than welcome to be you know be

2882
01:43:03,350 --> 01:43:01,280
partners with ben and i

2883
01:43:04,950 --> 01:43:03,360
um and it'd be great to have you all on

2884
01:43:07,189 --> 01:43:04,960
board yeah and so what is what is it

2885
01:43:09,430 --> 01:43:07,199
what will the t-shirt say

2886
01:43:10,790 --> 01:43:09,440
it will say ttfa

2887
01:43:11,790 --> 01:43:10,800
that's the most uncreative part of the

2888
01:43:16,070 --> 01:43:11,800
whole thing

2889
01:43:20,550 --> 01:43:19,109
we're always hiring that's all

2890
01:43:24,149 --> 01:43:20,560
on the back of the t-shirt it says now

2891
01:43:26,149 --> 01:43:24,159
hiring also yeah that's this we like to

2892
01:43:28,629 --> 01:43:26,159
jump and it also says probably you know

2893
01:43:30,709 --> 01:43:28,639
dangerous stand back 50 feet so yeah

2894
01:43:32,470 --> 01:43:30,719
yeah yeah i mean

2895
01:43:34,470 --> 01:43:32,480
we're changing the world we're just

2896
01:43:36,550 --> 01:43:34,480
changing the world with the

2897
01:43:38,470 --> 01:43:36,560
masturbation propulsion technology and

2898
01:43:40,390 --> 01:43:38,480
yeah there's all kinds of things that

2899
01:43:41,510 --> 01:43:40,400
that that we have going on right now and

2900
01:43:43,830 --> 01:43:41,520
i you know

2901
01:43:45,750 --> 01:43:43,840
so they're outside the box thinkers yeah

2902
01:43:49,270 --> 01:43:45,760
no way outside the box yeah gentlemen i

2903
01:43:51,669 --> 01:43:49,280
would not uh quit your day jobs just yet

2904
01:43:53,109 --> 01:43:51,679
but i think you might be on to

2905
01:43:54,550 --> 01:43:53,119
there's a lot of secrets that ben and i

2906
01:43:56,229 --> 01:43:54,560
can't talk about as well right yeah

2907
01:43:58,229 --> 01:43:56,239
right we're under we have our own club

2908
01:43:59,990 --> 01:43:58,239
but if you ask us a question and we have

2909
01:44:01,750 --> 01:44:00,000
to say no we'll blink twice so you know

2910
01:44:02,629 --> 01:44:01,760
that we're telling the truth exactly

2911
01:44:04,950 --> 01:44:02,639
yeah

2912
01:44:07,350 --> 01:44:04,960
and so what does blinking once mean

2913
01:44:09,669 --> 01:44:07,360
that means no that means i have an itch

2914
01:44:12,470 --> 01:44:09,679
well i hate i pass gas is usually is

2915
01:44:12,480 --> 01:44:17,750
oh god bin is blinking again oh no dude

2916
01:44:22,790 --> 01:44:19,990
so well guys i'm getting some sort of uh

2917
01:44:24,470 --> 01:44:22,800
alert here i guess uh someone said i've

2918
01:44:27,270 --> 01:44:24,480
i've talked to you for

2919
01:44:28,550 --> 01:44:27,280
10 minutes over your time i apologize

2920
01:44:31,189 --> 01:44:28,560
for that i don't know i'm getting some

2921
01:44:33,109 --> 01:44:31,199
little uh thing here in the bottom uh on

2922
01:44:34,870 --> 01:44:33,119
my screen so i don't know if i've gone

2923
01:44:37,030 --> 01:44:34,880
over my time limit with you guys i hope

2924
01:44:38,550 --> 01:44:37,040
i i haven't no not at all i don't know

2925
01:44:40,550 --> 01:44:38,560
where that's coming from this is from us

2926
01:44:44,709 --> 01:44:40,560
it's pretty free flow maybe uh maybe

2927
01:44:48,790 --> 01:44:46,790
yeah yeah they were like

2928
01:44:50,310 --> 01:44:48,800
he's been talking too long now you know

2929
01:44:52,470 --> 01:44:50,320
these guys are these guys are about

2930
01:44:54,310 --> 01:44:52,480
farts no get them off get them off

2931
01:44:57,910 --> 01:44:54,320
alert alert

2932
01:45:00,870 --> 01:44:58,629
yeah

2933
01:45:02,550 --> 01:45:00,880
we have fun with the subject man i mean

2934
01:45:05,350 --> 01:45:02,560
there's so much to take serious and it

2935
01:45:08,070 --> 01:45:05,360
is serious man but i mean what

2936
01:45:09,990 --> 01:45:08,080
you have to laugh at some point like

2937
01:45:12,709 --> 01:45:10,000
we have to have a good time with it

2938
01:45:14,070 --> 01:45:12,719
no i agree i do i agree and i think it's

2939
01:45:16,550 --> 01:45:14,080
very original if you start offering

2940
01:45:18,470 --> 01:45:16,560
master's degrees and flatulence and and

2941
01:45:20,390 --> 01:45:18,480
whatnot i think you know you you might

2942
01:45:21,669 --> 01:45:20,400
have something there

2943
01:45:22,790 --> 01:45:21,679
i think we're onto something big it's

2944
01:45:27,990 --> 01:45:22,800
going to be the biggest thing since

2945
01:45:32,390 --> 01:45:30,070
it's been so good but hey man we have a

2946
01:45:34,390 --> 01:45:32,400
so we have a few uh uh questions that

2947
01:45:37,030 --> 01:45:34,400
that are popping up in the in the chat

2948
01:45:38,709 --> 01:45:37,040
man um one of them was they've given me

2949
01:45:40,790 --> 01:45:38,719
five more minutes so i think we're good

2950
01:45:44,229 --> 01:45:40,800
okay cool just been told five more so

2951
01:45:46,229 --> 01:45:44,239
one of them one of them was a uh uh is

2952
01:45:48,950 --> 01:45:46,239
there anything other than the human

2953
01:45:50,870 --> 01:45:48,960
element about stuff that that

2954
01:45:53,030 --> 01:45:50,880
you've you've been involved in that that

2955
01:45:54,709 --> 01:45:53,040
keeps you up at night

2956
01:45:55,990 --> 01:45:54,719
oh my goodness uh

2957
01:45:58,390 --> 01:45:56,000
as it relates to this topic i'm

2958
01:46:02,229 --> 01:45:58,400
presuming yeah

2959
01:46:08,229 --> 01:46:04,709
you know that keeps me up no i mean i i

2960
01:46:11,270 --> 01:46:09,750
i only get nervous if you know you're

2961
01:46:12,709 --> 01:46:11,280
pointing a gun at me so that's really

2962
01:46:14,629 --> 01:46:12,719
the only time i'm gonna i'm gonna start

2963
01:46:15,830 --> 01:46:14,639
to you know get concerned from that

2964
01:46:18,790 --> 01:46:15,840
perspective

2965
01:46:21,510 --> 01:46:18,800
um but i do wake up every morning and

2966
01:46:23,590 --> 01:46:21,520
you know i i try to try to take a pulse

2967
01:46:26,310 --> 01:46:23,600
of what's going on i don't sleep very

2968
01:46:27,750 --> 01:46:26,320
much these days my health is not as as

2969
01:46:29,910 --> 01:46:27,760
good as it used to be i've been really

2970
01:46:31,590 --> 01:46:29,920
neglectful of it so i'm i'm gonna start

2971
01:46:34,149 --> 01:46:31,600
trying to to take care of that try to

2972
01:46:36,709 --> 01:46:34,159
get some more sleep um the problem is i

2973
01:46:37,990 --> 01:46:36,719
saw the day job like you guys um so you

2974
01:46:40,470 --> 01:46:38,000
know i'm working

2975
01:46:42,629 --> 01:46:40,480
a full-time job uh you know paying my

2976
01:46:43,990 --> 01:46:42,639
mortgage while at the same time uh

2977
01:46:45,669 --> 01:46:44,000
engaging the media while at the same

2978
01:46:47,990 --> 01:46:45,679
time trying to you know assist the

2979
01:46:51,030 --> 01:46:48,000
conversation and and advise people in

2980
01:46:51,990 --> 01:46:51,040
the government and whatnot so it's

2981
01:46:54,470 --> 01:46:52,000
um

2982
01:46:55,830 --> 01:46:54,480
you know it's it's it's a lot of work

2983
01:46:57,270 --> 01:46:55,840
i'm not asking anybody to feel sorry for

2984
01:46:59,030 --> 01:46:57,280
me i mean don't don't don't take it that

2985
01:47:00,470 --> 01:46:59,040
way i'm just simply saying that

2986
01:47:04,629 --> 01:47:00,480
um

2987
01:47:08,790 --> 01:47:07,030
is the concern that i have gonna have to

2988
01:47:10,390 --> 01:47:08,800
fight harder for the government to do

2989
01:47:11,350 --> 01:47:10,400
what it's supposed to do

2990
01:47:12,629 --> 01:47:11,360
elements in the government i don't mean

2991
01:47:13,990 --> 01:47:12,639
the whole government what i mean are

2992
01:47:15,109 --> 01:47:14,000
there's pockets of resistance that i've

2993
01:47:17,109 --> 01:47:15,119
said before

2994
01:47:18,550 --> 01:47:17,119
and you know uh

2995
01:47:19,990 --> 01:47:18,560
damn it they're gonna force me to root

2996
01:47:21,590 --> 01:47:20,000
them out and i don't want to do that you

2997
01:47:22,629 --> 01:47:21,600
know the last thing i want to do is

2998
01:47:23,990 --> 01:47:22,639
start you know

2999
01:47:26,470 --> 01:47:24,000
run for congress and start breaking

3000
01:47:28,310 --> 01:47:26,480
china and and you know the bookcases and

3001
01:47:31,430 --> 01:47:28,320
throwing things around to

3002
01:47:32,629 --> 01:47:31,440
to fix things but you know uh you know

3003
01:47:35,350 --> 01:47:32,639
if that's what it takes and then they'll

3004
01:47:37,830 --> 01:47:35,360
do it um you know i i need to run for

3005
01:47:38,950 --> 01:47:37,840
congress like i need a hole in the head

3006
01:47:41,350 --> 01:47:38,960
but if that's the only way we're going

3007
01:47:43,750 --> 01:47:41,360
to get stuff fixed and not just this

3008
01:47:45,830 --> 01:47:43,760
topic not just you know the topic of

3009
01:47:48,149 --> 01:47:45,840
uaps or ufos there's a lot of things

3010
01:47:49,830 --> 01:47:48,159
that need to be fixed in our government

3011
01:47:51,189 --> 01:47:49,840
there's a lot of things that we're we're

3012
01:47:52,550 --> 01:47:51,199
being neglectful of a lot of things

3013
01:47:55,030 --> 01:47:52,560
we're wasting

3014
01:47:57,990 --> 01:47:55,040
your money your your tax dollars doing

3015
01:47:59,669 --> 01:47:58,000
things that that um are are complete

3016
01:48:01,189 --> 01:47:59,679
waste and and there's people that we

3017
01:48:02,790 --> 01:48:01,199
have we have homeless people and

3018
01:48:03,750 --> 01:48:02,800
starving people in this country and

3019
01:48:05,750 --> 01:48:03,760
we've got

3020
01:48:07,510 --> 01:48:05,760
you know problems where we're we're

3021
01:48:09,830 --> 01:48:07,520
racially for some reason we're we're

3022
01:48:11,990 --> 01:48:09,840
divided when we you know we all welcome

3023
01:48:13,669 --> 01:48:12,000
from the same place you know what what

3024
01:48:15,109 --> 01:48:13,679
what are we doing what

3025
01:48:15,910 --> 01:48:15,119
why are we fighting each other you know

3026
01:48:17,350 --> 01:48:15,920
uh

3027
01:48:20,229 --> 01:48:17,360
there's a lot of things that we need to

3028
01:48:21,350 --> 01:48:20,239
fix in this country and um

3029
01:48:23,109 --> 01:48:21,360
i'm i'm

3030
01:48:26,149 --> 01:48:23,119
i'm a little bit

3031
01:48:27,030 --> 01:48:26,159
sad and and probably a little bit angry

3032
01:48:30,229 --> 01:48:27,040
that

3033
01:48:32,790 --> 01:48:30,239
other people uh just are too apathetic

3034
01:48:35,109 --> 01:48:32,800
you know and so it forces old guys like

3035
01:48:36,310 --> 01:48:35,119
me to put my damn boots back on and

3036
01:48:38,629 --> 01:48:36,320
you know

3037
01:48:40,149 --> 01:48:38,639
go back into the trenches and and start

3038
01:48:42,629 --> 01:48:40,159
start fixing things

3039
01:48:44,470 --> 01:48:42,639
um and uh

3040
01:48:45,830 --> 01:48:44,480
i think probably that's

3041
01:48:49,109 --> 01:48:45,840
that's what keeps me up at night the

3042
01:48:52,709 --> 01:48:51,189
it's it's it's really like pulling teeth

3043
01:48:54,229 --> 01:48:52,719
to get get people to do what they're

3044
01:48:56,229 --> 01:48:54,239
supposed to do and remind them of the

3045
01:48:58,390 --> 01:48:56,239
oath that they took to to the american

3046
01:49:00,709 --> 01:48:58,400
public you know we we our job in the

3047
01:49:02,550 --> 01:49:00,719
government is to serve you the american

3048
01:49:03,750 --> 01:49:02,560
people not the other way around

3049
01:49:05,590 --> 01:49:03,760
and and

3050
01:49:07,189 --> 01:49:05,600
don't look to me

3051
01:49:08,790 --> 01:49:07,199
for answers don't don't if there's

3052
01:49:11,750 --> 01:49:08,800
something that's not related to national

3053
01:49:13,030 --> 01:49:11,760
security regarding for example ufos then

3054
01:49:14,950 --> 01:49:13,040
you know what it's not a government

3055
01:49:16,390 --> 01:49:14,960
stand business i don't want them telling

3056
01:49:18,229 --> 01:49:16,400
me how i should think about this and how

3057
01:49:20,149 --> 01:49:18,239
i should process this and what this

3058
01:49:22,470 --> 01:49:20,159
means to me you know they can go to hell

3059
01:49:23,589 --> 01:49:22,480
they should stay focused directly on on

3060
01:49:24,950 --> 01:49:23,599
what their core mission is and

3061
01:49:27,109 --> 01:49:24,960
everything else needs to be determined

3062
01:49:28,950 --> 01:49:27,119
and decided by us the people

3063
01:49:30,950 --> 01:49:28,960
and and i think we're relying too much

3064
01:49:33,589 --> 01:49:30,960
on the government to give us solutions

3065
01:49:35,030 --> 01:49:33,599
and answers i think we need academics

3066
01:49:36,870 --> 01:49:35,040
and scientists and philosophers and

3067
01:49:38,790 --> 01:49:36,880
theologians and teachers and everybody

3068
01:49:40,149 --> 01:49:38,800
lady dottie to come under the tent and

3069
01:49:42,870 --> 01:49:40,159
have a conversation about what this

3070
01:49:44,550 --> 01:49:42,880
means to humanity and and stop leaning

3071
01:49:46,709 --> 01:49:44,560
on the government to say feed me feed me

3072
01:49:48,390 --> 01:49:46,719
tell me tell me no you don't want to be

3073
01:49:50,870 --> 01:49:48,400
in that situation because if you're

3074
01:49:52,390 --> 01:49:50,880
going to become a slave do do not ask

3075
01:49:54,790 --> 01:49:52,400
your government to do that

3076
01:49:55,669 --> 01:49:54,800
you know you we need to we need to

3077
01:49:58,149 --> 01:49:55,679
assume

3078
01:49:59,669 --> 01:49:58,159
the responsibility for ourselves and and

3079
01:50:02,550 --> 01:49:59,679
then keep the government focused on

3080
01:50:05,270 --> 01:50:02,560
those parts of of of this topic that

3081
01:50:06,870 --> 01:50:05,280
that that are are related to to their

3082
01:50:08,790 --> 01:50:06,880
function but i wouldn't give them an

3083
01:50:09,750 --> 01:50:08,800
inch i wouldn't give them a centimeter

3084
01:50:12,790 --> 01:50:09,760
more

3085
01:50:15,189 --> 01:50:12,800
than than than that which they are

3086
01:50:16,470 --> 01:50:15,199
are charged with looking at i i just i

3087
01:50:21,189 --> 01:50:16,480
think it's

3088
01:50:23,030 --> 01:50:21,199
we need to retain that authority uh we

3089
01:50:25,669 --> 01:50:23,040
we should not be just

3090
01:50:27,510 --> 01:50:25,679
giving it over to to to the government

3091
01:50:29,270 --> 01:50:27,520
to do for us

3092
01:50:31,669 --> 01:50:29,280
love that i love it there's a reason you

3093
01:50:32,709 --> 01:50:31,679
live in wyoming right lou

3094
01:50:36,470 --> 01:50:32,719
yes

3095
01:50:38,870 --> 01:50:36,480
is like

3096
01:50:40,629 --> 01:50:38,880
man i align with a lot of those ideas

3097
01:50:42,310 --> 01:50:40,639
and 100

3098
01:50:43,990 --> 01:50:42,320
i want to say more but i know you're

3099
01:50:46,149 --> 01:50:44,000
limited on time i just kind of wanted to

3100
01:50:48,550 --> 01:50:46,159
slip in before we hop off dude like

3101
01:50:50,310 --> 01:50:48,560
thank you so much lou like man you are a

3102
01:50:52,709 --> 01:50:50,320
busy guy and the fact that you took your

3103
01:50:54,790 --> 01:50:52,719
time out tonight to talk to us dummies

3104
01:50:57,910 --> 01:50:54,800
like i really appreciate it man like

3105
01:50:59,589 --> 01:50:57,920
dude it's uh it's amazing to just kind

3106
01:51:01,510 --> 01:50:59,599
of see that you you really do want to

3107
01:51:02,950 --> 01:51:01,520
get this message out there and talk and

3108
01:51:04,950 --> 01:51:02,960
you know tell people what you what you

3109
01:51:06,390 --> 01:51:04,960
know and it was awesome getting to know

3110
01:51:08,709 --> 01:51:06,400
you a little better

3111
01:51:11,270 --> 01:51:08,719
just as a person dude like

3112
01:51:13,669 --> 01:51:11,280
well i'll tell you what ben joe and dan

3113
01:51:15,270 --> 01:51:13,679
um you you now know where i live um you

3114
01:51:16,790 --> 01:51:15,280
guys won't ever come out here i'm listen

3115
01:51:18,629 --> 01:51:16,800
i'm not kidding this is not a frivolous

3116
01:51:20,790 --> 01:51:18,639
offer you guys ever want to come out and

3117
01:51:23,109 --> 01:51:20,800
turn some wrenches in and and you know

3118
01:51:24,870 --> 01:51:23,119
hang out in the garage and and smoke a

3119
01:51:27,510 --> 01:51:24,880
cigar and listen to rock and roll music

3120
01:51:29,270 --> 01:51:27,520
and and talk about ufos you guys are

3121
01:51:30,950 --> 01:51:29,280
welcome to anytime would love nothing

3122
01:51:32,629 --> 01:51:30,960
more to have you guys out you know and

3123
01:51:35,350 --> 01:51:32,639
if you want to do a podcast from out

3124
01:51:37,270 --> 01:51:35,360
here you know out in the boonies uh you

3125
01:51:39,270 --> 01:51:37,280
can do that too man that would be

3126
01:51:41,430 --> 01:51:39,280
absolutely incredible so yeah that would

3127
01:51:44,629 --> 01:51:41,440
be awesome we got us we got to set up

3128
01:51:46,470 --> 01:51:44,639
inside of uh of a car a project car you

3129
01:51:49,030 --> 01:51:46,480
know like have the microphones you know

3130
01:51:49,910 --> 01:51:49,040
yeah

3131
01:51:51,430 --> 01:51:49,920
and stuff

3132
01:51:53,270 --> 01:51:51,440
that would be awesome yeah we'll

3133
01:51:54,950 --> 01:51:53,280
definitely do something cool we'll have

3134
01:51:56,790 --> 01:51:54,960
to do something cool for sure man but

3135
01:51:58,470 --> 01:51:56,800
great guys well it's it's been my

3136
01:52:01,030 --> 01:51:58,480
pleasure it really has and i'll do this

3137
01:52:02,709 --> 01:52:01,040
anytime you guys want this is uh you

3138
01:52:06,310 --> 01:52:02,719
know something that that that means a

3139
01:52:07,910 --> 01:52:06,320
lot to me um you know despite

3140
01:52:10,629 --> 01:52:07,920
on top of being able to talk about cars

3141
01:52:13,109 --> 01:52:10,639
right uh right you know that that's

3142
01:52:15,030 --> 01:52:13,119
always fun too but i do appreciate you

3143
01:52:16,470 --> 01:52:15,040
guys giving me a little bit of your time

3144
01:52:17,750 --> 01:52:16,480
this evening and i really appreciate to

3145
01:52:20,629 --> 01:52:17,760
your audience

3146
01:52:22,149 --> 01:52:20,639
uh for for tuning in and and listening

3147
01:52:23,510 --> 01:52:22,159
to us you know i know for them they're

3148
01:52:25,030 --> 01:52:23,520
probably frustrated because they want to

3149
01:52:27,270 --> 01:52:25,040
say something they want to ask questions

3150
01:52:29,990 --> 01:52:27,280
and it's just kind of us talking amongst

3151
01:52:31,990 --> 01:52:30,000
ourselves but but let me just offer this

3152
01:52:34,149 --> 01:52:32,000
to your audience you know we we do hear

3153
01:52:35,669 --> 01:52:34,159
you and and and we know

3154
01:52:37,750 --> 01:52:35,679
that you want to contribute to this

3155
01:52:40,229 --> 01:52:37,760
conversation we know that you you you

3156
01:52:43,030 --> 01:52:40,239
have you add value to this to this

3157
01:52:44,870 --> 01:52:43,040
effort and know that we we recognize

3158
01:52:47,430 --> 01:52:44,880
that and and we are doing what we do

3159
01:52:49,669 --> 01:52:47,440
because because of you so so thank you

3160
01:52:51,830 --> 01:52:49,679
all because there would not be any

3161
01:52:53,669 --> 01:52:51,840
any ufo garage if there wasn't an

3162
01:52:55,430 --> 01:52:53,679
audience to listen to it so again

3163
01:52:57,350 --> 01:52:55,440
exactly you know i'm here because of

3164
01:52:59,189 --> 01:52:57,360
them and and they are here because of

3165
01:53:01,430 --> 01:52:59,199
you so thank you very much for for

3166
01:53:03,589 --> 01:53:01,440
tuning in

3167
01:53:05,350 --> 01:53:03,599
anytime man you're welcome back anytime

3168
01:53:06,470 --> 01:53:05,360
yeah so yeah we had it we had a great

3169
01:53:09,030 --> 01:53:06,480
time with you and we're definitely going

3170
01:53:10,550 --> 01:53:09,040
to have to come out and uh and and hang

3171
01:53:12,390 --> 01:53:10,560
out with you sometime we'll do a live

3172
01:53:15,510 --> 01:53:12,400
one dan you're coming with us yeah we're

3173
01:53:17,510 --> 01:53:15,520
gonna have to schedule that up for sure

3174
01:53:19,990 --> 01:53:17,520
i want to tell you my favorite you've

3175
01:53:22,149 --> 01:53:20,000
been on so many interviews my absolute

3176
01:53:23,750 --> 01:53:22,159
favorite moment of all the

3177
01:53:25,350 --> 01:53:23,760
the mainstream media interviews that

3178
01:53:27,109 --> 01:53:25,360
you've ever been on and i'm not going to

3179
01:53:28,310 --> 01:53:27,119
call out the

3180
01:53:30,149 --> 01:53:28,320
name of the channel that was

3181
01:53:33,270 --> 01:53:30,159
interviewing you but he said we have

3182
01:53:37,109 --> 01:53:33,280
with us louis alonso and he's going to

3183
01:53:38,870 --> 01:53:37,119
talk about this and he did you did it

3184
01:53:41,910 --> 01:53:38,880
you just kind of went all right let's go

3185
01:53:43,910 --> 01:53:41,920
with it crack here i was laughing i was

3186
01:53:45,910 --> 01:53:43,920
laughing so hard yeah well you know i

3187
01:53:47,750 --> 01:53:45,920
got a last name that you know i think i

3188
01:53:50,070 --> 01:53:47,760
was like 15 years old before i learned

3189
01:53:51,510 --> 01:53:50,080
what how to even say my last name uh

3190
01:53:53,350 --> 01:53:51,520
it's kind of one of those family curses

3191
01:53:54,550 --> 01:53:53,360
and by the way when you're and luis

3192
01:53:56,470 --> 01:53:54,560
jimenez will tell you the same thing

3193
01:53:57,830 --> 01:53:56,480
when you're come from a latin family we

3194
01:54:00,149 --> 01:53:57,840
have this tradition where we take the

3195
01:54:01,589 --> 01:54:00,159
names of our you know like ancestors and

3196
01:54:03,910 --> 01:54:01,599
ancestors before and the mom's side the

3197
01:54:05,750 --> 01:54:03,920
brother side the gods inside and so you

3198
01:54:06,950 --> 01:54:05,760
know you wind up with you know

3199
01:54:08,390 --> 01:54:06,960
you go see those kids that go to

3200
01:54:10,149 --> 01:54:08,400
kindergarten with those little stickers

3201
01:54:11,350 --> 01:54:10,159
and say hello my name is and you know

3202
01:54:13,189 --> 01:54:11,360
i've got this thing around my neck

3203
01:54:17,510 --> 01:54:13,199
that's about you know

3204
01:54:20,870 --> 01:54:19,430
guys it's been it's been real fun thank

3205
01:54:22,870 --> 01:54:20,880
you so much for having me it's been

3206
01:54:25,189 --> 01:54:22,880
really a pleasure thank you so very much

3207
01:54:26,950 --> 01:54:25,199
guys yes sir absolutely we'll talk to

3208
01:54:30,390 --> 01:54:26,960
you next time man thank you all right

3209
01:54:33,189 --> 01:54:30,400
guys take care peace man bye

3210
01:54:35,030 --> 01:54:33,199
all right damn damn man that was fun man

3211
01:54:36,790 --> 01:54:35,040
i'm glad you were able to stop by and

3212
01:54:39,270 --> 01:54:36,800
hang out with us tonight man that's

3213
01:54:40,550 --> 01:54:39,280
awesome they say never meet your heroes

3214
01:54:41,830 --> 01:54:40,560
i don't know if i agree with that

3215
01:54:45,350 --> 01:54:41,840
statement

3216
01:54:47,750 --> 01:54:45,360
i'm smiling dude yes man yeah so it was

3217
01:54:49,669 --> 01:54:47,760
it was almost as fun like watching your

3218
01:54:52,310 --> 01:54:49,679
face kind of light up as it was like

3219
01:54:55,270 --> 01:54:52,320
just the whole thing you know yeah

3220
01:54:57,350 --> 01:54:55,280
my wife had a friend over today um they

3221
01:54:59,109 --> 01:54:57,360
were hanging out and i came home and i

3222
01:55:00,790 --> 01:54:59,119
kind of told him what was going on and

3223
01:55:03,109 --> 01:55:00,800
she looked at me and she was like i've

3224
01:55:04,709 --> 01:55:03,119
never seen you smile so much because i

3225
01:55:07,189 --> 01:55:04,719
was just i'm trying to explain to her

3226
01:55:09,350 --> 01:55:07,199
like what i'm doing who is oh have you

3227
01:55:11,270 --> 01:55:09,360
ever heard of 60 minutes right and i

3228
01:55:13,189 --> 01:55:11,280
just couldn't stop cheesing and she was

3229
01:55:15,990 --> 01:55:13,199
like i don't think i've ever seen dan

3230
01:55:18,790 --> 01:55:16,000
this happy before

3231
01:55:20,470 --> 01:55:18,800
dude i i realized that as well when i uh

3232
01:55:22,070 --> 01:55:20,480
popped up on tick-tock and i saw your

3233
01:55:24,870 --> 01:55:22,080
thing and i was looking for another

3234
01:55:28,149 --> 01:55:24,880
video of yours but it said bring

3235
01:55:33,830 --> 01:55:31,030
it's it's that was a pleasure man that

3236
01:55:35,350 --> 01:55:33,840
made my year i like that that's good i'm

3237
01:55:38,149 --> 01:55:35,360
so glad you're a part of it man because

3238
01:55:39,030 --> 01:55:38,159
i mean really like you you've been a a a

3239
01:55:40,390 --> 01:55:39,040
well

3240
01:55:42,390 --> 01:55:40,400
you started out as a listener you've

3241
01:55:43,750 --> 01:55:42,400
been our buddy for a long time man and

3242
01:55:45,589 --> 01:55:43,760
and you really helped us out in a lot of

3243
01:55:47,109 --> 01:55:45,599
ways so i mean the least we could do is

3244
01:55:48,950 --> 01:55:47,119
like have you on ask a few questions it

3245
01:55:49,669 --> 01:55:48,960
was great that you stuck around for you

3246
01:55:51,510 --> 01:55:49,679
know

3247
01:55:53,589 --> 01:55:51,520
the remainder of it so i feel like it

3248
01:55:55,589 --> 01:55:53,599
was a good vibe so that was awesome

3249
01:55:57,510 --> 01:55:55,599
we're ride or dies guys i'm sorry to

3250
01:55:59,990 --> 01:55:57,520
tell you that but we're stuck together

3251
01:56:02,550 --> 01:56:00,000
yeah man yeah so then you're so then you

3252
01:56:04,790 --> 01:56:02,560
are coming with us to wyoming right dude

3253
01:56:07,270 --> 01:56:04,800
we got some traveling to do we don't ha

3254
01:56:10,390 --> 01:56:07,280
i got i'm ready to go we're we're going

3255
01:56:11,589 --> 01:56:10,400
to uh bledsoes uh later on maybe not

3256
01:56:13,669 --> 01:56:11,599
this summer i already talked to ryan he

3257
01:56:15,430 --> 01:56:13,679
said maybe not uh he's pretty busy but

3258
01:56:19,030 --> 01:56:15,440
yeah we gotta go to bledsoe's and then

3259
01:56:21,430 --> 01:56:19,040
we'll go to elizondo's after that yeah

3260
01:56:23,669 --> 01:56:21,440
and i want to go to austin i i want to

3261
01:56:25,669 --> 01:56:23,679
come hang out there at some point

3262
01:56:27,030 --> 01:56:25,679
start in austin dude we'll have uh we'll

3263
01:56:29,350 --> 01:56:27,040
have some barbecue probably well and

3264
01:56:32,149 --> 01:56:29,360
then there's uh what's that called icer

3265
01:56:34,629 --> 01:56:32,159
icer that just started and they're based

3266
01:56:37,270 --> 01:56:34,639
out of austin as well i sent you the

3267
01:56:38,790 --> 01:56:37,280
information about it yeah

3268
01:56:41,270 --> 01:56:38,800
the ufo pack

3269
01:56:43,270 --> 01:56:41,280
yes yes sorry i got it wrong those guys

3270
01:56:45,669 --> 01:56:43,280
are in your town the you got to get a

3271
01:56:47,669 --> 01:56:45,679
hold of them yeah so no i sent them an

3272
01:56:50,149 --> 01:56:47,679
email i haven't heard back from um but

3273
01:56:52,709 --> 01:56:50,159
yeah i mean i reached out to him on uh

3274
01:56:54,709 --> 01:56:52,719
on uh almost at netflix

3275
01:56:57,189 --> 01:56:54,719
twitter that's how

3276
01:56:59,430 --> 01:56:57,199
hip by am with the internet anyway they

3277
01:57:01,830 --> 01:56:59,440
uh so we'll just wait for their their

3278
01:57:03,669 --> 01:57:01,840
email so we definitely love them love to

3279
01:57:05,510 --> 01:57:03,679
have them on dude yeah that's cool

3280
01:57:07,109 --> 01:57:05,520
anything about them i just i

3281
01:57:09,270 --> 01:57:07,119
i feel like they need to put something

3282
01:57:11,189 --> 01:57:09,280
out that we can kind of consume easy

3283
01:57:12,149 --> 01:57:11,199
like it seems like to learn about them

3284
01:57:13,750 --> 01:57:12,159
you're going to have to do a lot of

3285
01:57:16,550 --> 01:57:13,760
research and dig in

3286
01:57:18,149 --> 01:57:16,560
that's what the benefit of tick tock is

3287
01:57:20,470 --> 01:57:18,159
is that you can get information out in

3288
01:57:22,470 --> 01:57:20,480
an easy to consume format

3289
01:57:24,550 --> 01:57:22,480
that anybody can consume

3290
01:57:27,589 --> 01:57:24,560
with that everybody needs to have a

3291
01:57:30,189 --> 01:57:27,599
commercial it helps yeah they they have

3292
01:57:32,950 --> 01:57:30,199
a a video on their website the

3293
01:57:34,629 --> 01:57:32,960
ufopack.com and it's like it's it's a

3294
01:57:37,430 --> 01:57:34,639
pretty long video but it kind of

3295
01:57:39,189 --> 01:57:37,440
explains it but it's like one of those

3296
01:57:41,030 --> 01:57:39,199
i i come from a marketing background and

3297
01:57:42,629 --> 01:57:41,040
there's a lot of like

3298
01:57:44,470 --> 01:57:42,639
glossing over it kind of gives you the

3299
01:57:47,030 --> 01:57:44,480
the broad strokes so i'll be interested

3300
01:57:49,589 --> 01:57:47,040
to kind of dig into what exactly they're

3301
01:57:50,709 --> 01:57:49,599
doing but it seems more uh political and

3302
01:57:53,030 --> 01:57:50,719
and like

3303
01:57:55,430 --> 01:57:53,040
paperwork and things so well that's

3304
01:57:57,510 --> 01:57:55,440
important that's part oh yeah yeah

3305
01:57:58,950 --> 01:57:57,520
yeah but it's just not as sexy you know

3306
01:58:00,950 --> 01:57:58,960
like oh i know

3307
01:58:02,470 --> 01:58:00,960
i want videos man i want to

3308
01:58:04,310 --> 01:58:02,480
well it's nice to see that there's

3309
01:58:06,470 --> 01:58:04,320
something else out there man because

3310
01:58:07,510 --> 01:58:06,480
like i mean like when we started

3311
01:58:09,990 --> 01:58:07,520
you know

3312
01:58:14,229 --> 01:58:10,000
i was googling all kinds of stuff ufo

3313
01:58:16,229 --> 01:58:14,239
groups ufo austin ufo this and that

3314
01:58:18,629 --> 01:58:16,239
nothing man there was like a meet up

3315
01:58:20,629 --> 01:58:18,639
three years ago some people on a rooftop

3316
01:58:23,109 --> 01:58:20,639
and that's like it and then that's how

3317
01:58:25,510 --> 01:58:23,119
we came across the anomaly archives here

3318
01:58:27,270 --> 01:58:25,520
in austin man and and uh

3319
01:58:30,070 --> 01:58:27,280
yeah i mean uh

3320
01:58:32,229 --> 01:58:30,080
smiles is awesome dude you know smile

3321
01:58:35,030 --> 01:58:32,239
that little museum is incredible it's

3322
01:58:37,189 --> 01:58:35,040
got like all kinds of like just dude

3323
01:58:39,910 --> 01:58:37,199
there's like a whole bookcase that's

3324
01:58:41,589 --> 01:58:39,920
just full of just you uh like mufon

3325
01:58:45,189 --> 01:58:41,599
records and like

3326
01:58:46,790 --> 01:58:45,199
old like videos and tapes and you can

3327
01:58:49,030 --> 01:58:46,800
rent stuff and there's books from like

3328
01:58:50,950 --> 01:58:49,040
the 1500s in there it's just it's

3329
01:58:52,870 --> 01:58:50,960
incredible dude like that's such a cool

3330
01:58:54,629 --> 01:58:52,880
place and i'm glad we found it but it's

3331
01:58:57,189 --> 01:58:54,639
nice to see that

3332
01:58:59,669 --> 01:58:57,199
these dudes are kind of popping up now

3333
01:59:01,430 --> 01:58:59,679
obviously you know so maybe we'll we'll

3334
01:59:03,109 --> 01:59:01,440
have somebody to pal around with here in

3335
01:59:05,589 --> 01:59:03,119
austin a little bit

3336
01:59:07,430 --> 01:59:05,599
well like i think they bring

3337
01:59:08,790 --> 01:59:07,440
a certain s

3338
01:59:10,950 --> 01:59:08,800
a skill set

3339
01:59:13,350 --> 01:59:10,960
knowledge base to the conversation that

3340
01:59:15,830 --> 01:59:13,360
most people don't have and that's my

3341
01:59:18,470 --> 01:59:15,840
view of danny sheehan right now and

3342
01:59:21,270 --> 01:59:18,480
who's now representing luke yeah we need

3343
01:59:23,510 --> 01:59:21,280
we need lawyers we need these these type

3344
01:59:24,950 --> 01:59:23,520
of people instead of us just kind of

3345
01:59:26,790 --> 01:59:24,960
talking about it there's people that

3346
01:59:29,589 --> 01:59:26,800
know how to get things done instead of

3347
01:59:30,790 --> 01:59:29,599
just us knowing about it we need

3348
01:59:32,629 --> 01:59:30,800
yeah

3349
01:59:34,229 --> 01:59:32,639
like everybody's like spread the message

3350
01:59:36,390 --> 01:59:34,239
we're just raising awareness but like no

3351
01:59:38,629 --> 01:59:36,400
one does anything

3352
01:59:40,310 --> 01:59:38,639
and and so

3353
01:59:44,470 --> 01:59:40,320
one of the questions

3354
01:59:46,470 --> 01:59:44,480
up is why now why now like dave scott

3355
01:59:48,070 --> 01:59:46,480
who i really enjoy his show talks about

3356
01:59:50,149 --> 01:59:48,080
it um

3357
01:59:51,589 --> 01:59:50,159
i've heard someone say this and i i

3358
01:59:53,350 --> 01:59:51,599
can't remember exactly who it was but he

3359
01:59:55,350 --> 01:59:53,360
said i think what's happened is the

3360
01:59:57,990 --> 01:59:55,360
reason it's coming out now is because we

3361
01:59:59,750 --> 01:59:58,000
had a guy that knew the system come out

3362
02:00:02,229 --> 01:59:59,760
of the system and turn around and take

3363
02:00:05,109 --> 02:00:02,239
advantage of it yeah so david's

3364
02:00:07,030 --> 02:00:05,119
playing the game yeah dude hey yes uh

3365
02:00:10,470 --> 02:00:07,040
also shout out to spaced out radio dave

3366
02:00:12,310 --> 02:00:10,480
dude like you're awesome thanks for yeah

3367
02:00:15,189 --> 02:00:12,320
he's he's a professional man yeah he

3368
02:00:17,270 --> 02:00:15,199
asks the good questions uh

3369
02:00:19,510 --> 02:00:17,280
the idea that

3370
02:00:21,350 --> 02:00:19,520
that there hasn't been somebody up until

3371
02:00:23,669 --> 02:00:21,360
now that has been in the system in the

3372
02:00:26,790 --> 02:00:23,679
government that knows all the back

3373
02:00:28,550 --> 02:00:26,800
channels and how things work

3374
02:00:30,709 --> 02:00:28,560
the reason it hasn't happened until now

3375
02:00:31,990 --> 02:00:30,719
it baffles me like why did it take so

3376
02:00:33,990 --> 02:00:32,000
long

3377
02:00:36,390 --> 02:00:34,000
for for this to

3378
02:00:38,310 --> 02:00:36,400
stigma i mean it boils down who would

3379
02:00:39,830 --> 02:00:38,320
want to leave like what lou has done

3380
02:00:42,070 --> 02:00:39,840
what chris mellon has done they have

3381
02:00:44,470 --> 02:00:42,080
given up a lot to get to where we are

3382
02:00:45,910 --> 02:00:44,480
right now yeah

3383
02:00:48,629 --> 02:00:45,920
it's hard to do that

3384
02:00:51,189 --> 02:00:48,639
to hard to sacrifice to put yourself put

3385
02:00:53,030 --> 02:00:51,199
others above yourself like what i

3386
02:00:55,990 --> 02:00:53,040
consider they're doing

3387
02:00:58,229 --> 02:00:56,000
it it always goes back to wait well

3388
02:00:59,510 --> 02:00:58,239
obviously like cultural zeitgeist but it

3389
02:01:01,750 --> 02:00:59,520
goes always goes back to money like

3390
02:01:03,589 --> 02:01:01,760
nobody wants to like give up their their

3391
02:01:05,830 --> 02:01:03,599
day job and possibility of not getting a

3392
02:01:07,189 --> 02:01:05,840
job in the future to just talk about

3393
02:01:08,870 --> 02:01:07,199
something that they're interested in

3394
02:01:10,629 --> 02:01:08,880
like it makes sense

3395
02:01:12,790 --> 02:01:10,639
uh in

3396
02:01:16,550 --> 02:01:12,800
man it it makes me

3397
02:01:19,750 --> 02:01:16,560
ever ever more more uh passionate about

3398
02:01:21,910 --> 02:01:19,760
this idea that what if after this 180

3399
02:01:24,229 --> 02:01:21,920
days on june 25th or whenever it comes

3400
02:01:27,030 --> 02:01:24,239
out some people say the first whatever

3401
02:01:28,390 --> 02:01:27,040
uh but joe you said it first what if

3402
02:01:29,750 --> 02:01:28,400
what they come out with what the

3403
02:01:32,070 --> 02:01:29,760
government comes out with is that there

3404
02:01:34,790 --> 02:01:32,080
is this new technology and what if it

3405
02:01:36,550 --> 02:01:34,800
does replace our monetary system like

3406
02:01:38,629 --> 02:01:36,560
what if it's like a technological

3407
02:01:41,030 --> 02:01:38,639
revolution that we're about to enter but

3408
02:01:43,350 --> 02:01:41,040
in order to enter it we have to kind of

3409
02:01:46,149 --> 02:01:43,360
release some of this information for any

3410
02:01:47,350 --> 02:01:46,159
of it to even make sense yeah right

3411
02:01:48,790 --> 02:01:47,360
right

3412
02:01:51,589 --> 02:01:48,800
something's got to change with the way

3413
02:01:53,350 --> 02:01:51,599
that we think about our economics i

3414
02:01:55,109 --> 02:01:53,360
think i think that has a huge thing to

3415
02:01:56,709 --> 02:01:55,119
do about

3416
02:01:57,669 --> 02:01:56,719
having to do with it

3417
02:01:59,669 --> 02:01:57,679
because

3418
02:02:01,430 --> 02:01:59,679
no one ever does anything that's in

3419
02:02:02,950 --> 02:02:01,440
charge of something that's really

3420
02:02:04,709 --> 02:02:02,960
important if it doesn't have to do with

3421
02:02:07,189 --> 02:02:04,719
money or backed by money or you're going

3422
02:02:08,310 --> 02:02:07,199
to start trading pecans hey i'll tell

3423
02:02:10,550 --> 02:02:08,320
you what

3424
02:02:12,870 --> 02:02:10,560
well i'm gonna i'm gonna push back a

3425
02:02:14,790 --> 02:02:12,880
little bit on them leaving not wanting

3426
02:02:17,109 --> 02:02:14,800
to leave because of money i think that a

3427
02:02:20,790 --> 02:02:17,119
lot of the people in the government that

3428
02:02:22,149 --> 02:02:20,800
get into those higher levels are alphas

3429
02:02:24,470 --> 02:02:22,159
they're they're not just in it for a

3430
02:02:25,669 --> 02:02:24,480
paycheck they're in they're dedicated

3431
02:02:28,310 --> 02:02:25,679
determined

3432
02:02:30,149 --> 02:02:28,320
human beings that are that are bound and

3433
02:02:31,990 --> 02:02:30,159
determined to get to where they want to

3434
02:02:35,030 --> 02:02:32,000
go and they don't want to give up it's

3435
02:02:37,589 --> 02:02:35,040
like playing a sport i love basketball i

3436
02:02:38,790 --> 02:02:37,599
never want to stop playing basketball

3437
02:02:42,149 --> 02:02:38,800
uh

3438
02:02:44,070 --> 02:02:42,159
i don't get paid for it i'll never

3439
02:02:45,990 --> 02:02:44,080
if you if you stop if i did get paid and

3440
02:02:47,990 --> 02:02:46,000
you stopped i'd still play like i think

3441
02:02:50,470 --> 02:02:48,000
that's the mentality of like lou and

3442
02:02:51,910 --> 02:02:50,480
chris is they're driving forward to

3443
02:02:52,709 --> 02:02:51,920
accomplish a goal

3444
02:02:54,629 --> 02:02:52,719
that

3445
02:02:56,870 --> 02:02:54,639
they can accomplish outside of the

3446
02:02:58,709 --> 02:02:56,880
system better than inside of it when

3447
02:03:00,629 --> 02:02:58,719
most people in that system just want to

3448
02:03:02,229 --> 02:03:00,639
stay in that system and advance to their

3449
02:03:04,310 --> 02:03:02,239
boss's position

3450
02:03:06,709 --> 02:03:04,320
oh yeah

3451
02:03:09,830 --> 02:03:06,719
yeah dude yeah

3452
02:03:11,589 --> 02:03:09,840
dude that's okay hey hey do you think

3453
02:03:15,910 --> 02:03:11,599
do you think uh

3454
02:03:18,870 --> 02:03:17,430
honestly he's on the phone with tom

3455
02:03:21,270 --> 02:03:18,880
right now like hey i was a little

3456
02:03:22,870 --> 02:03:21,280
uncomfortable these guys have a an

3457
02:03:25,030 --> 02:03:22,880
incredible idea and you all need to get

3458
02:03:26,550 --> 02:03:25,040
your [\h__\h] together

3459
02:03:28,149 --> 02:03:26,560
you need to check out to the farts

3460
02:03:30,229 --> 02:03:28,159
academy we're gonna figure it out before

3461
02:03:32,629 --> 02:03:30,239
you guys do they're on to it they're on

3462
02:03:34,550 --> 02:03:32,639
to us and and i'm about to join their

3463
02:03:36,149 --> 02:03:34,560
team there's a new player in town

3464
02:03:38,950 --> 02:03:36,159
there's a new player in town louis

3465
02:03:43,830 --> 02:03:39,750
like

3466
02:03:45,350 --> 02:03:43,840
posting videos for a year to drop that

3467
02:03:47,750 --> 02:03:45,360
joke and

3468
02:03:50,629 --> 02:03:47,760
yeah it finally paid off yes we have

3469
02:03:53,510 --> 02:03:50,639
actually been uh posting for a year just

3470
02:03:55,589 --> 02:03:53,520
to drop that joke um we had to i mean

3471
02:03:57,510 --> 02:03:55,599
i'm i'm so glad that you i honestly

3472
02:03:59,030 --> 02:03:57,520
didn't want to but i'm glad that you no

3473
02:04:00,550 --> 02:03:59,040
dude you know we haven't i would have

3474
02:04:03,030 --> 02:04:00,560
been pissed if we didn't do it you you

3475
02:04:05,350 --> 02:04:03,040
worked so hard on this website and it's

3476
02:04:06,950 --> 02:04:05,360
so funny it is so funny i haven't put

3477
02:04:10,390 --> 02:04:06,960
the comments back up yet but it's

3478
02:04:12,870 --> 02:04:10,400
hilarious i mean dude

3479
02:04:14,229 --> 02:04:12,880
the best part is i think that tom delong

3480
02:04:15,510 --> 02:04:14,239
will probably have to go check out that

3481
02:04:16,870 --> 02:04:15,520
website if he hears that there's

3482
02:04:18,149 --> 02:04:16,880
something like that he's gonna he seems

3483
02:04:20,310 --> 02:04:18,159
like the kind of guy that'd be like i'm

3484
02:04:22,149 --> 02:04:20,320
looking i gotta go look now he's gotta

3485
02:04:24,310 --> 02:04:22,159
love it i mean come on he seems like

3486
02:04:27,109 --> 02:04:24,320
he's got a great sense of humor man oh

3487
02:04:30,229 --> 02:04:27,119
yeah oh yeah dude i mean like

3488
02:04:33,430 --> 02:04:30,239
growing up listening to blink 182 i mean

3489
02:04:35,830 --> 02:04:33,440
it was nothing but like

3490
02:04:38,069 --> 02:04:35,840
dick jokes and banging your mom and like

3491
02:04:40,790 --> 02:04:38,079
running around butt naked and like who

3492
02:04:42,870 --> 02:04:40,800
cares like you know like it it's just

3493
02:04:47,109 --> 02:04:42,880
it's it's so funny dude william it's so

3494
02:04:52,229 --> 02:04:49,750
yes dude yes man

3495
02:04:54,149 --> 02:04:52,239
i loved it dude i mean yeah no i think i

3496
02:04:56,149 --> 02:04:54,159
think it's great man you know lou's

3497
02:04:57,750 --> 02:04:56,159
never seen anything like that man news

3498
02:04:59,510 --> 02:04:57,760
had a lot of good interviews but no no

3499
02:05:02,310 --> 02:04:59,520
ain't nobody busted out to the farts

3500
02:05:03,830 --> 02:05:02,320
academy to him dude you know and i i

3501
02:05:07,030 --> 02:05:03,840
could see it on his face he was pretty

3502
02:05:08,709 --> 02:05:07,040
impressed i could tell one thing

3503
02:05:10,870 --> 02:05:08,719
i was trying to figure out what

3504
02:05:12,709 --> 02:05:10,880
is lou's longest interview that he's

3505
02:05:14,470 --> 02:05:12,719
ever had because we i mean he was on

3506
02:05:17,350 --> 02:05:14,480
here for a long time a lot longer than i

3507
02:05:19,910 --> 02:05:17,360
expected usually one hour i was very i

3508
02:05:21,589 --> 02:05:19,920
was stoked i was like oh my gosh yes

3509
02:05:23,430 --> 02:05:21,599
he's still here it's funny like with

3510
02:05:26,390 --> 02:05:23,440
that when the little thing popped up it

3511
02:05:28,550 --> 02:05:26,400
was like oh looks like i ran over time

3512
02:05:31,510 --> 02:05:28,560
like like no lou you didn't no we're

3513
02:05:35,030 --> 02:05:33,030
and that's that's what i think you guys

3514
02:05:37,430 --> 02:05:35,040
bring to this is

3515
02:05:39,430 --> 02:05:37,440
it's an enjoyable conversation to have

3516
02:05:41,189 --> 02:05:39,440
it's not like hey i need i'm going to

3517
02:05:43,109 --> 02:05:41,199
try to get as much information out of

3518
02:05:45,030 --> 02:05:43,119
you as possible tell i'm going to pry

3519
02:05:46,550 --> 02:05:45,040
and pry and pry until until i get

3520
02:05:48,310 --> 02:05:46,560
something from you it's just a

3521
02:05:50,709 --> 02:05:48,320
conversation and that's what he's been

3522
02:05:52,550 --> 02:05:50,719
asking is to just have the conversation

3523
02:05:55,189 --> 02:05:52,560
yeah absolutely man i appreciate you

3524
02:05:57,430 --> 02:05:55,199
saying that man yeah totally i i know

3525
02:05:58,950 --> 02:05:57,440
yeah we've had conversations off of

3526
02:06:02,870 --> 02:05:58,960
shows and stuff

3527
02:06:05,750 --> 02:06:02,880
and yeah i think it is important to just

3528
02:06:08,310 --> 02:06:05,760
talk to the person stop like yeah

3529
02:06:11,030 --> 02:06:08,320
he's been interrogated probably by a

3530
02:06:13,030 --> 02:06:11,040
professional before like

3531
02:06:15,830 --> 02:06:13,040
yeah and there's so many people new to

3532
02:06:17,510 --> 02:06:15,840
this topic that all like the in-depth

3533
02:06:19,030 --> 02:06:17,520
conversations that he has on some of the

3534
02:06:20,069 --> 02:06:19,040
other channels are not going to be

3535
02:06:21,990 --> 02:06:20,079
relatable they're not going to

3536
02:06:23,510 --> 02:06:22,000
understand what's going on when you guys

3537
02:06:26,149 --> 02:06:23,520
have them on it's going to make it

3538
02:06:28,310 --> 02:06:26,159
easier for people to get into it to

3539
02:06:31,750 --> 02:06:28,320
understand what's going on to start to

3540
02:06:34,069 --> 02:06:31,760
pique their interest in the subject

3541
02:06:36,629 --> 02:06:34,079
well yeah man thank you for saying that

3542
02:06:38,790 --> 02:06:36,639
in a goofy way in a goofy silly kind of

3543
02:06:40,870 --> 02:06:38,800
way and i'll turn it back around on you

3544
02:06:42,390 --> 02:06:40,880
dan uh scratch your back for a second i

3545
02:06:45,430 --> 02:06:42,400
mean dude this tick tock thing that you

3546
02:06:47,669 --> 02:06:45,440
started it at first i mean you had this

3547
02:06:49,510 --> 02:06:47,679
this youtube channel i mean you said

3548
02:06:50,790 --> 02:06:49,520
that it just took entirely too long to

3549
02:06:52,550 --> 02:06:50,800
make these videos

3550
02:06:54,149 --> 02:06:52,560
i think the first time i

3551
02:06:56,229 --> 02:06:54,159
you had reached out like hey check out

3552
02:06:58,470 --> 02:06:56,239
my tick tock it was at what like 2 000

3553
02:06:59,750 --> 02:06:58,480
and then it bumped up to like 13 000 in

3554
02:07:02,310 --> 02:06:59,760
like a week

3555
02:07:05,750 --> 02:07:02,320
uh and now what are you at like 50

3556
02:07:07,189 --> 02:07:05,760
i just shy of 50 000 um which hey tick

3557
02:07:08,790 --> 02:07:07,199
tock followers thank you for following

3558
02:07:10,390 --> 02:07:08,800
me i hope you keep watching my videos

3559
02:07:12,470 --> 02:07:10,400
and checking them out and if you haven't

3560
02:07:13,830 --> 02:07:12,480
go sign up on fifth pillar

3561
02:07:15,910 --> 02:07:13,840
of emphasis

3562
02:07:17,510 --> 02:07:15,920
but if you just search ufo i'm probably

3563
02:07:18,550 --> 02:07:17,520
like the first or second thing that pops

3564
02:07:20,870 --> 02:07:18,560
up now

3565
02:07:22,950 --> 02:07:20,880
yeah if you search ufo and then click on

3566
02:07:24,390 --> 02:07:22,960
users like you're the second person

3567
02:07:27,030 --> 02:07:24,400
you're sh yeah

3568
02:07:27,910 --> 02:07:27,040
it's it's right there so and yeah and

3569
02:07:31,350 --> 02:07:27,920
my

3570
02:07:33,830 --> 02:07:31,360
content is going to be almost

3571
02:07:36,470 --> 02:07:33,840
step by step in line with what lou and

3572
02:07:38,550 --> 02:07:36,480
chris and their efforts are leading us

3573
02:07:42,149 --> 02:07:38,560
towards uh i like to just i try to cover

3574
02:07:44,149 --> 02:07:42,159
in as non-biased manner as i can

3575
02:07:46,470 --> 02:07:44,159
so the

3576
02:07:48,790 --> 02:07:46,480
information isn't my information it's

3577
02:07:51,430 --> 02:07:48,800
i'm giving you the information that is

3578
02:07:54,390 --> 02:07:51,440
out there that you might not be aware of

3579
02:07:56,550 --> 02:07:54,400
take it consider it and then think for

3580
02:07:58,950 --> 02:07:56,560
yourself make up your own opinion of

3581
02:08:00,950 --> 02:07:58,960
what this means but yeah but here's

3582
02:08:03,270 --> 02:08:00,960
here's the date here's the information

3583
02:08:04,629 --> 02:08:03,280
yeah well there that needs to be that

3584
02:08:07,750 --> 02:08:04,639
needs to happen though like that's why

3585
02:08:10,229 --> 02:08:07,760
we call you newsman dan dude yeah man

3586
02:08:11,830 --> 02:08:10,239
easy to consume like short snippets of

3587
02:08:13,990 --> 02:08:11,840
information are going to be easier for

3588
02:08:14,790 --> 02:08:14,000
people to get their mind around and we

3589
02:08:17,669 --> 02:08:14,800
we're

3590
02:08:19,990 --> 02:08:17,679
ufo talk is the king of long form

3591
02:08:22,709 --> 02:08:20,000
conversation uh but yeah

3592
02:08:24,550 --> 02:08:22,719
and it's also what you do i'll just

3593
02:08:26,629 --> 02:08:24,560
scratch your uh scratch your balls just

3594
02:08:28,310 --> 02:08:26,639
well again wait a second you get like i

3595
02:08:30,229 --> 02:08:28,320
get the other all right

3596
02:08:32,310 --> 02:08:30,239
but like you don't you don't inject your

3597
02:08:33,990 --> 02:08:32,320
own perspective into your your tick

3598
02:08:36,950 --> 02:08:34,000
tocks which is which is refreshing a lot

3599
02:08:38,390 --> 02:08:36,960
of people will you know they'll they

3600
02:08:40,310 --> 02:08:38,400
they see oh i've got a lot of followers

3601
02:08:41,910 --> 02:08:40,320
a lot of people are listening to me i'm

3602
02:08:43,350 --> 02:08:41,920
going to go ahead and put my own spin on

3603
02:08:46,149 --> 02:08:43,360
things and it's nice that you haven't

3604
02:08:48,629 --> 02:08:46,159
done that um i mean because i don't know

3605
02:08:51,270 --> 02:08:48,639
i just don't know what to

3606
02:08:54,629 --> 02:08:52,790
i hope people are looking at my videos

3607
02:08:56,709 --> 02:08:54,639
and just just consuming them the same

3608
02:08:59,350 --> 02:08:56,719
way that i'm consuming the article or

3609
02:09:01,669 --> 02:08:59,360
the the news piece that i'm reviewing

3610
02:09:03,910 --> 02:09:01,679
it's basically um i'm starting to think

3611
02:09:06,709 --> 02:09:03,920
of myself as you can watch a basketball

3612
02:09:08,470 --> 02:09:06,719
game or you can listen to the the dudes

3613
02:09:10,310 --> 02:09:08,480
on sportscenter talk about the

3614
02:09:12,390 --> 02:09:10,320
highlights of the game

3615
02:09:13,910 --> 02:09:12,400
yeah and then if those highlights are

3616
02:09:15,270 --> 02:09:13,920
interesting enough you would go watch

3617
02:09:17,510 --> 02:09:15,280
the game well that's what i'm trying to

3618
02:09:20,310 --> 02:09:17,520
do is just say here's a little bit

3619
02:09:22,550 --> 02:09:20,320
go investigate further peak if i can

3620
02:09:24,550 --> 02:09:22,560
pique someone's interest so so this is

3621
02:09:25,910 --> 02:09:24,560
this is the quote that i've talked to my

3622
02:09:27,589 --> 02:09:25,920
kids about before

3623
02:09:30,629 --> 02:09:27,599
um i'm a big

3624
02:09:33,109 --> 02:09:30,639
gold school rap aficionado

3625
02:09:36,229 --> 02:09:33,119
two i'm gonna paraphrase tupac like what

3626
02:09:39,669 --> 02:09:36,239
i'm hoping for out of my uh tiktok

3627
02:09:42,550 --> 02:09:39,679
channel is i might not change the world

3628
02:09:45,510 --> 02:09:42,560
but i could spark the brain that does

3629
02:09:48,069 --> 02:09:45,520
change the world by doing a stupid tick

3630
02:09:50,470 --> 02:09:48,079
tock channel about ufos maybe somebody

3631
02:09:51,830 --> 02:09:50,480
that watches that is the person that's

3632
02:09:53,270 --> 02:09:51,840
going to

3633
02:09:55,830 --> 02:09:53,280
change the world

3634
02:09:57,350 --> 02:09:55,840
and be the next thing so that's what i'm

3635
02:09:59,510 --> 02:09:57,360
hoping for

3636
02:10:01,669 --> 02:09:59,520
yeah dude yeah that's beautiful man

3637
02:10:03,750 --> 02:10:01,679
that's what it's all about i mean we we

3638
02:10:04,709 --> 02:10:03,760
were uh we had the spark to start our

3639
02:10:07,030 --> 02:10:04,719
own thing

3640
02:10:08,870 --> 02:10:07,040
from from someone else i mean i i i mean

3641
02:10:10,629 --> 02:10:08,880
uh ryan sprague and somewhere in the

3642
02:10:12,709 --> 02:10:10,639
skies that was my into i was like man

3643
02:10:14,390 --> 02:10:12,719
this guy is relatable cool i'm like i

3644
02:10:18,149 --> 02:10:14,400
wanna if he could do it i could do it

3645
02:10:20,709 --> 02:10:18,159
and like dave scott like dude if it uh

3646
02:10:23,350 --> 02:10:20,719
we just related to him in a way so we

3647
02:10:25,830 --> 02:10:23,360
just said let's just start our own thing

3648
02:10:28,069 --> 02:10:25,840
and uh you know a couple years later

3649
02:10:29,270 --> 02:10:28,079
it's pretty crazy that we i mean we

3650
02:10:32,069 --> 02:10:29,280
don't really talk to ryan sprague as

3651
02:10:34,390 --> 02:10:32,079
much but but dave scott like dude he's a

3652
02:10:36,950 --> 02:10:34,400
huge part of our uh our journey in this

3653
02:10:39,109 --> 02:10:36,960
this podcast and uh he's done a lot for

3654
02:10:41,589 --> 02:10:39,119
us and we try to do a lot for him as

3655
02:10:43,270 --> 02:10:41,599
well so check out spacedom radio if you

3656
02:10:45,990 --> 02:10:43,280
aren't uh already

3657
02:10:48,390 --> 02:10:46,000
here from there uh you're watching this

3658
02:10:50,229 --> 02:10:48,400
i liked how this one said 60 minutes got

3659
02:10:52,310 --> 02:10:50,239
here it's funny that 60 minutes is

3660
02:10:53,910 --> 02:10:52,320
trickling down into the ufo garage

3661
02:10:55,669 --> 02:10:53,920
podcast

3662
02:10:57,830 --> 02:10:55,679
that's pretty awesome they're like oh

3663
02:10:59,189 --> 02:10:57,840
and and uh at the end of 60 minutes and

3664
02:11:01,189 --> 02:10:59,199
they were like oh and by the way next

3665
02:11:02,410 --> 02:11:01,199
week louis lozando will be on the ufo

3666
02:11:04,390 --> 02:11:02,420
garage podcast

3667
02:11:06,870 --> 02:11:04,400
[Laughter]

3668
02:11:09,510 --> 02:11:06,880
former and future member of uh to the

3669
02:11:12,709 --> 02:11:09,520
farts academy

3670
02:11:14,790 --> 02:11:12,719
dude i i can company echo i'm so glad

3671
02:11:17,109 --> 02:11:14,800
that he didn't like totally just

3672
02:11:20,310 --> 02:11:17,119
stop the broadcast he rolled with the

3673
02:11:22,310 --> 02:11:20,320
punches he did man i oh man that is when

3674
02:11:23,589 --> 02:11:22,320
his five-minute check came up though so

3675
02:11:26,069 --> 02:11:23,599
it is

3676
02:11:28,229 --> 02:11:26,079
yeah someone was like okay

3677
02:11:29,750 --> 02:11:28,239
someone was wait someone had uh he's

3678
02:11:31,350 --> 02:11:29,760
probably got a really great crew around

3679
02:11:34,870 --> 02:11:31,360
him that probably is trying to watch his

3680
02:11:36,629 --> 02:11:34,880
back and if they saw one of our episodes

3681
02:11:38,950 --> 02:11:36,639
they're like hey lou just warning you

3682
02:11:40,550 --> 02:11:38,960
these guys

3683
02:11:42,390 --> 02:11:40,560
one minute they could be have you know

3684
02:11:44,709 --> 02:11:42,400
we could have you in tears in the second

3685
02:11:47,430 --> 02:11:44,719
minute we're laughing about genitalia

3686
02:11:48,310 --> 02:11:47,440
like you never know

3687
02:11:49,589 --> 02:11:48,320
guys

3688
02:11:51,589 --> 02:11:49,599
so uh

3689
02:11:53,589 --> 02:11:51,599
that was pretty crazy

3690
02:11:55,910 --> 02:11:53,599
you know the goal is that every guest

3691
02:11:57,990 --> 02:11:55,920
that comes on man we we just want you to

3692
02:12:00,149 --> 02:11:58,000
have a good time that's it like you know

3693
02:12:01,589 --> 02:12:00,159
like just just have a good time if

3694
02:12:03,990 --> 02:12:01,599
you're not having a good time then we're

3695
02:12:05,669 --> 02:12:04,000
not doing our job you know

3696
02:12:06,950 --> 02:12:05,679
and like i said when i was talking to

3697
02:12:09,109 --> 02:12:06,960
lou like

3698
02:12:11,990 --> 02:12:09,119
this isn't work for me

3699
02:12:13,270 --> 02:12:12,000
looking into the ufo stuff is my hobby

3700
02:12:15,109 --> 02:12:13,280
and

3701
02:12:17,830 --> 02:12:15,119
who does like you don't you do a hobby

3702
02:12:20,470 --> 02:12:17,840
because you enjoy it it's fun it is

3703
02:12:22,709 --> 02:12:20,480
fulfilling it's it's what i like so

3704
02:12:25,350 --> 02:12:22,719
that's why this is such a great topic

3705
02:12:28,149 --> 02:12:25,360
and it's world changing it's literally

3706
02:12:29,589 --> 02:12:28,159
gonna change the world uh in the future

3707
02:12:31,270 --> 02:12:29,599
going forward and i can't remember who

3708
02:12:32,550 --> 02:12:31,280
was talking about it's like we're

3709
02:12:33,510 --> 02:12:32,560
talking about

3710
02:12:34,629 --> 02:12:33,520
people not wanting to leave the

3711
02:12:36,310 --> 02:12:34,639
government because they could lose their

3712
02:12:39,350 --> 02:12:36,320
pensions or whatever

3713
02:12:42,709 --> 02:12:39,360
but the impact could last 50 000 years

3714
02:12:44,149 --> 02:12:42,719
on humanity like just by our generation

3715
02:12:46,310 --> 02:12:44,159
stepping up the plate and doing

3716
02:12:48,709 --> 02:12:46,320
something we could change the course of

3717
02:12:52,069 --> 02:12:48,719
human history people people aren't going

3718
02:12:53,669 --> 02:12:52,079
to remember our society for covid but if

3719
02:12:55,589 --> 02:12:53,679
we're the

3720
02:12:58,149 --> 02:12:55,599
they're going to look at us and go that

3721
02:13:00,550 --> 02:12:58,159
is when we found out we weren't the only

3722
02:13:02,950 --> 02:13:00,560
intelligence on earth that is going to

3723
02:13:05,030 --> 02:13:02,960
be the game changer and we're currently

3724
02:13:07,270 --> 02:13:05,040
witnessing it happen right now it's

3725
02:13:09,510 --> 02:13:07,280
amazing yeah

3726
02:13:12,470 --> 02:13:09,520
dude i mean i could not have said it uh

3727
02:13:17,189 --> 02:13:12,480
any any better i was you know

3728
02:13:18,709 --> 02:13:17,199
i guess i i deduced from what lou uh i i

3729
02:13:19,910 --> 02:13:18,719
really i don't

3730
02:13:21,589 --> 02:13:19,920
i want to get to know the guy a little

3731
02:13:23,669 --> 02:13:21,599
bit more but i really do appreciate that

3732
02:13:25,910 --> 02:13:23,679
he's open to these these aspects of

3733
02:13:28,310 --> 02:13:25,920
consciousness and he's interested in it

3734
02:13:31,030 --> 02:13:28,320
and uh man i would love to know more

3735
02:13:33,430 --> 02:13:31,040
about what his his ideas are and i get

3736
02:13:35,109 --> 02:13:33,440
his his stance that

3737
02:13:36,790 --> 02:13:35,119
if you if you veer away from the subject

3738
02:13:38,870 --> 02:13:36,800
i mean there's such a magnifying glass

3739
02:13:41,109 --> 02:13:38,880
on him right now it it really his

3740
02:13:42,629 --> 02:13:41,119
analogy of saying that don't stop you

3741
02:13:44,470 --> 02:13:42,639
know if there's not that pause in

3742
02:13:47,030 --> 02:13:44,480
between like so much of what he could

3743
02:13:49,030 --> 02:13:47,040
say could get construed so

3744
02:13:50,950 --> 02:13:49,040
it's really tough to to go into that

3745
02:13:52,629 --> 02:13:50,960
deep stuff that i i would love to talk

3746
02:13:54,950 --> 02:13:52,639
to him about and this is stuff that i

3747
02:13:57,990 --> 02:13:54,960
love to talking to anybody about i mean

3748
02:13:59,830 --> 02:13:58,000
catch me at a a relaxed you know dinner

3749
02:14:02,310 --> 02:13:59,840
party or something i'm not saying well

3750
02:14:04,550 --> 02:14:02,320
the thank goodness we had some brain and

3751
02:14:05,830 --> 02:14:04,560
oh we really needed that yeah like i'm

3752
02:14:07,750 --> 02:14:05,840
not talking about that i'm talking about

3753
02:14:08,950 --> 02:14:07,760
so what does your consciousness say like

3754
02:14:13,669 --> 02:14:08,960
what do you

3755
02:14:18,390 --> 02:14:15,589
just just imagine what a conversation

3756
02:14:20,709 --> 02:14:18,400
with lou 10 years from now would be like

3757
02:14:22,709 --> 02:14:20,719
if you go talk to him after all of the

3758
02:14:25,109 --> 02:14:22,719
history that's that's currently

3759
02:14:27,750 --> 02:14:25,119
occurring and going to continue to occur

3760
02:14:29,030 --> 02:14:27,760
when he's able to speak more freely and

3761
02:14:31,669 --> 02:14:29,040
give us

3762
02:14:34,149 --> 02:14:31,679
what the real story is in 10 years 15

3763
02:14:35,910 --> 02:14:34,159
years 20 years whenever it's going to be

3764
02:14:37,510 --> 02:14:35,920
amazing like it

3765
02:14:39,030 --> 02:14:37,520
i'm not going to say that tom cruise

3766
02:14:42,629 --> 02:14:39,040
should play him in the movie

3767
02:14:43,830 --> 02:14:42,639
but he is gonna have a movie that's he's

3768
02:14:45,030 --> 02:14:43,840
gonna be a main character in the movie

3769
02:14:46,629 --> 02:14:45,040
at some point in the future like that's

3770
02:14:48,550 --> 02:14:46,639
what i keep seeing when i see all these

3771
02:14:51,109 --> 02:14:48,560
new broadcasts that are talking about

3772
02:14:53,030 --> 02:14:51,119
ufos is this is gonna be the backdrop of

3773
02:14:55,350 --> 02:14:53,040
a movie in the future maybe we're living

3774
02:14:57,990 --> 02:14:55,360
in crazy times maybe lulu miniz will

3775
02:15:00,069 --> 02:14:58,000
we'll play him yeah it could be oh that

3776
02:15:01,750 --> 02:15:00,079
would be sick yeah unidentified

3777
02:15:03,830 --> 02:15:01,760
celebrity review what's up lou if you're

3778
02:15:05,189 --> 02:15:03,840
out there what's up dude yeah because

3779
02:15:06,069 --> 02:15:05,199
their names are the same they're the

3780
02:15:09,189 --> 02:15:06,079
same

3781
02:15:10,870 --> 02:15:09,199
they look very similar i i think i think

3782
02:15:13,109 --> 02:15:10,880
maybe yeah and in his older years maybe

3783
02:15:14,709 --> 02:15:13,119
you can play get the goatee going he's

3784
02:15:17,270 --> 02:15:14,719
an actor by the way i mean that's what

3785
02:15:18,310 --> 02:15:17,280
i'm saying he's an actor so

3786
02:15:20,790 --> 02:15:18,320
dude

3787
02:15:23,589 --> 02:15:20,800
oh william said we got two thumbs down

3788
02:15:24,870 --> 02:15:23,599
yes is it oh really only two

3789
02:15:27,430 --> 02:15:24,880
i was trying i was thinking we were

3790
02:15:29,510 --> 02:15:27,440
gonna like try to get to like 500. oh

3791
02:15:31,990 --> 02:15:29,520
man hey we got beverly said i doubt

3792
02:15:34,830 --> 02:15:32,000
anyone else has had him uh talking about

3793
02:15:38,229 --> 02:15:34,840
weed cars and

3794
02:15:39,830 --> 02:15:38,239
farts that's very true that's very true

3795
02:15:41,189 --> 02:15:39,840
everybody wants to know

3796
02:15:43,350 --> 02:15:41,199
um

3797
02:15:46,629 --> 02:15:43,360
what he can't talk about so

3798
02:15:49,990 --> 02:15:46,639
i know everybody wanted us to ask us

3799
02:15:52,069 --> 02:15:50,000
[\h__\h] he can't talk about that's

3800
02:15:55,109 --> 02:15:52,079
it was so tough like dude we got so many

3801
02:15:57,030 --> 02:15:55,119
twit uh twitter messages and i i

3802
02:15:58,870 --> 02:15:57,040
apologize everybody out there that sent

3803
02:16:01,270 --> 02:15:58,880
us stuff i did have them written down

3804
02:16:03,109 --> 02:16:01,280
but it just didn't feel

3805
02:16:04,709 --> 02:16:03,119
right to just interject and say oh

3806
02:16:06,390 --> 02:16:04,719
here's this really

3807
02:16:08,790 --> 02:16:06,400
yeah and i know i didn't have probably

3808
02:16:09,669 --> 02:16:08,800
the greatest questions either but i mean

3809
02:16:10,870 --> 02:16:09,679
there's a

3810
02:16:12,790 --> 02:16:10,880
hopefully there'll be another time where

3811
02:16:14,629 --> 02:16:12,800
we can ask uh all the questions yeah

3812
02:16:16,790 --> 02:16:14,639
dude in his garage it did it definitely

3813
02:16:18,470 --> 02:16:16,800
yeah the dango yeah there you go but

3814
02:16:20,470 --> 02:16:18,480
yeah it's like at a certain point you

3815
02:16:23,030 --> 02:16:20,480
have to realize hey we're not we're not

3816
02:16:25,350 --> 02:16:23,040
gonna break that vault like he's a he's

3817
02:16:27,350 --> 02:16:25,360
a rock solid he's not

3818
02:16:28,790 --> 02:16:27,360
he's not gonna overstep his bounce so

3819
02:16:31,750 --> 02:16:28,800
what's the point of even asking the

3820
02:16:33,509 --> 02:16:31,760
question by this time everybody's asked

3821
02:16:36,309 --> 02:16:33,519
him a lot of

3822
02:16:38,870 --> 02:16:36,319
the the core the big questions right and

3823
02:16:40,709 --> 02:16:38,880
and for the most part he's been like

3824
02:16:42,870 --> 02:16:40,719
i can't really talk about that right you

3825
02:16:45,429 --> 02:16:42,880
know so like what's the point of doing

3826
02:16:47,429 --> 02:16:45,439
it again is you go listen to another

3827
02:16:49,589 --> 02:16:47,439
show and it's like oh luke couldn't talk

3828
02:16:51,429 --> 02:16:49,599
about it but

3829
02:16:54,309 --> 02:16:51,439
you know what kind of car he likes

3830
02:16:56,070 --> 02:16:54,319
yeah yep dude i loved that man i i

3831
02:16:57,349 --> 02:16:56,080
didn't want that's when time just kind

3832
02:16:59,270 --> 02:16:57,359
of flew by when we were talking about

3833
02:17:01,349 --> 02:16:59,280
our favorite car well he absolutely lit

3834
02:17:03,190 --> 02:17:01,359
up i mean the look on his face when we

3835
02:17:04,950 --> 02:17:03,200
were talking about that

3836
02:17:06,950 --> 02:17:04,960
his demeanor changed

3837
02:17:09,190 --> 02:17:06,960
completely at that point so he he was

3838
02:17:11,750 --> 02:17:09,200
enjoying himself at that point yeah i

3839
02:17:15,030 --> 02:17:11,760
mean it's well it's just refreshing to

3840
02:17:17,030 --> 02:17:15,040
to have uh that kind of interest in

3841
02:17:19,030 --> 02:17:17,040
common i mean i'm not a gear head but

3842
02:17:21,270 --> 02:17:19,040
like i've definitely been around a lot

3843
02:17:22,309 --> 02:17:21,280
of cool cars so i know a little bit

3844
02:17:23,990 --> 02:17:22,319
about it

3845
02:17:25,669 --> 02:17:24,000
uh that was awesome your question dan

3846
02:17:30,150 --> 02:17:25,679
about the uh what was the headlight

3847
02:17:34,150 --> 02:17:32,309
all right so there's uh there's back in

3848
02:17:36,389 --> 02:17:34,160
like the 60s they used to call it three

3849
02:17:38,150 --> 02:17:36,399
on the tree and that is the three speed

3850
02:17:41,990 --> 02:17:38,160
transmission i think it was in chevy's

3851
02:17:43,429 --> 02:17:42,000
uh in the 60s yeah but uh the the high

3852
02:17:45,110 --> 02:17:43,439
beams

3853
02:17:46,790 --> 02:17:45,120
on most modern cars it's on the

3854
02:17:49,509 --> 02:17:46,800
left-hand side and you pull it back to

3855
02:17:51,990 --> 02:17:49,519
do it but in in 72 and earlier it's a

3856
02:17:52,870 --> 02:17:52,000
button on the floorboard and you stomp

3857
02:17:58,389 --> 02:17:52,880
on the

3858
02:18:00,709 --> 02:17:58,399
that lets me know that he not only knows

3859
02:18:04,790 --> 02:18:00,719
what that is but that he likes cars that

3860
02:18:10,950 --> 02:18:08,469
my car had the the floor high beams and

3861
02:18:14,309 --> 02:18:10,960
when i would when i would click them on

3862
02:18:15,669 --> 02:18:14,319
uh the dashboard would go dark

3863
02:18:17,509 --> 02:18:15,679
they have character when they get a

3864
02:18:19,509 --> 02:18:17,519
little older for sure

3865
02:18:20,549 --> 02:18:19,519
i was like what the hell dude in that

3866
02:18:25,270 --> 02:18:20,559
car

3867
02:18:27,990 --> 02:18:25,280
the first time it rained i went cruising

3868
02:18:29,429 --> 02:18:28,000
down the road man i hit this puddle and

3869
02:18:31,750 --> 02:18:29,439
as soon as i hit the puddle my

3870
02:18:34,070 --> 02:18:31,760
floorboards exploded

3871
02:18:35,990 --> 02:18:34,080
with water and i didn't know that there

3872
02:18:37,750 --> 02:18:36,000
was two massive holes in the front

3873
02:18:39,750 --> 02:18:37,760
floorboards with cardboard over them and

3874
02:18:41,589 --> 02:18:39,760
they just stuck the carpet back on top

3875
02:18:43,589 --> 02:18:41,599
so as soon as i hit that puddle dude i

3876
02:18:46,150 --> 02:18:43,599
was soaked i was on my way to school i

3877
02:18:48,629 --> 02:18:46,160
was like man

3878
02:18:51,270 --> 02:18:48,639
are you serious i'm dead serious yeah so

3879
02:18:53,190 --> 02:18:51,280
i had i worked with a guy named john r

3880
02:18:54,790 --> 02:18:53,200
and i'm gonna have to send him a shout

3881
02:18:56,230 --> 02:18:54,800
out for this because he told me a story

3882
02:18:57,750 --> 02:18:56,240
when he was in high school him and his

3883
02:18:59,990 --> 02:18:57,760
buddies were riding around in this old

3884
02:19:02,389 --> 02:19:00,000
station wagon drinking beer riding

3885
02:19:04,309 --> 02:19:02,399
around and the the floorboards in the

3886
02:19:06,549 --> 02:19:04,319
back had a giant hole in them well they

3887
02:19:09,030 --> 02:19:06,559
got pulled over by the police they

3888
02:19:12,070 --> 02:19:09,040
lifted up the floor mat stuck the beer

3889
02:19:13,669 --> 02:19:12,080
on the ground yeah then waited for the

3890
02:19:15,669 --> 02:19:13,679
cops to leave and then reach back and

3891
02:19:20,469 --> 02:19:15,679
grab the beer off the ground and put it

3892
02:19:23,190 --> 02:19:20,479
in oh that's so awesome misha john

3893
02:19:25,110 --> 02:19:23,200
yes that's awesome dude oh that's that's

3894
02:19:27,509 --> 02:19:25,120
great dude yes

3895
02:19:30,309 --> 02:19:27,519
dude uh well

3896
02:19:33,349 --> 02:19:30,319
dan i mean you you had some some other

3897
02:19:35,429 --> 02:19:33,359
some uh other questions that i really

3898
02:19:37,349 --> 02:19:35,439
man i really wanted

3899
02:19:39,990 --> 02:19:37,359
that conversation about like ancient

3900
02:19:42,389 --> 02:19:40,000
egyptians or like yeah

3901
02:19:44,469 --> 02:19:42,399
the ancients man something about the

3902
02:19:46,389 --> 02:19:44,479
ancients the druids

3903
02:19:49,510 --> 02:19:46,399
no one knew

3904
02:19:51,270 --> 02:19:49,520
who they were or what

3905
02:19:54,469 --> 02:19:51,280
they were doing

3906
02:19:56,389 --> 02:19:54,479
i'm really i i would love a man i would

3907
02:19:58,550 --> 02:19:56,399
love to know his opinion of course we as

3908
02:20:00,230 --> 02:19:58,560
we said he can't really yeah he's not

3909
02:20:03,030 --> 02:20:00,240
gonna say anything about that but i

3910
02:20:05,110 --> 02:20:03,040
wonder what lou thinks about that but

3911
02:20:06,469 --> 02:20:05,120
we're at with this

3912
02:20:08,150 --> 02:20:06,479
with this journey because i think we

3913
02:20:08,950 --> 02:20:08,160
started at the same time

3914
02:20:11,110 --> 02:20:08,960
so

3915
02:20:12,790 --> 02:20:11,120
i mean my journey goes back a long time

3916
02:20:15,349 --> 02:20:12,800
but it's been one of the it's been with

3917
02:20:17,910 --> 02:20:15,359
me for most of my life but it's been

3918
02:20:20,870 --> 02:20:17,920
much more serious um

3919
02:20:23,670 --> 02:20:20,880
since 2017 uh it's it's it's one of

3920
02:20:26,790 --> 02:20:23,680
those things that you are ashamed of you

3921
02:20:28,790 --> 02:20:26,800
know like i was ashamed to be

3922
02:20:31,270 --> 02:20:28,800
researching ufos

3923
02:20:32,950 --> 02:20:31,280
and looking into this stuff

3924
02:20:34,630 --> 02:20:32,960
with the amount of effort i was putting

3925
02:20:36,070 --> 02:20:34,640
into it it was embarrassing for people

3926
02:20:37,030 --> 02:20:36,080
to find out

3927
02:20:39,910 --> 02:20:37,040
it's like

3928
02:20:42,790 --> 02:20:39,920
i don't know just embarrassing

3929
02:20:45,030 --> 02:20:42,800
but then it started to get on the news

3930
02:20:46,550 --> 02:20:45,040
and like i said the the moment when lou

3931
02:20:48,950 --> 02:20:46,560
told max

3932
02:20:51,190 --> 02:20:48,960
that congratulations you're on the right

3933
02:20:53,429 --> 02:20:51,200
side of history that to me like i said

3934
02:20:54,950 --> 02:20:53,439
breath of fresh air like

3935
02:20:58,070 --> 02:20:54,960
what okay

3936
02:21:01,830 --> 02:20:58,080
what did he say to who's max so max is a

3937
02:21:03,750 --> 02:21:01,840
podcaster out of uh amsterdam and he's

3938
02:21:05,510 --> 02:21:03,760
had lou on twice he had him on the first

3939
02:21:08,150 --> 02:21:05,520
time and i mean he's he's doing a

3940
02:21:10,630 --> 02:21:08,160
bang-up job shout out to max

3941
02:21:12,070 --> 02:21:10,640
what's the podcast name uh it's

3942
02:21:14,469 --> 02:21:12,080
i can't remember

3943
02:21:16,550 --> 02:21:14,479
okay i got it saved and he's got a long

3944
02:21:19,590 --> 02:21:16,560
name that's not american so it's hard

3945
02:21:21,670 --> 02:21:19,600
for me to spell it yeah um but he's he's

3946
02:21:25,110 --> 02:21:21,680
had harry reid on he had stephen

3947
02:21:27,349 --> 02:21:25,120
greenstreet on this week i mean he's

3948
02:21:29,110 --> 02:21:27,359
banging him out left and right now but

3949
02:21:31,429 --> 02:21:29,120
when you take him out when he had lou on

3950
02:21:33,590 --> 02:21:31,439
the first time uh

3951
02:21:34,630 --> 02:21:33,600
he basically told him like

3952
02:21:49,349 --> 02:21:34,640
the

3953
02:21:51,110 --> 02:21:49,359
history or congratulations you are on

3954
02:21:52,790 --> 02:21:51,120
the right side of history so that makes

3955
02:21:56,870 --> 02:21:52,800
me just go like okay i'm looking through

3956
02:21:58,070 --> 02:21:56,880
the telescope right now i am i am

3957
02:22:02,630 --> 02:21:58,080
dude

3958
02:22:05,110 --> 02:22:02,640
okay i'm sorry uh max uh musco wicks uh

3959
02:22:07,110 --> 02:22:05,120
he he's uh in that group uh the message

3960
02:22:09,990 --> 02:22:07,120
group with it on it uh from the big

3961
02:22:12,230 --> 02:22:10,000
phone home yes yes so i've chatted with

3962
02:22:15,270 --> 02:22:12,240
the guy great guy um so i watched a

3963
02:22:16,950 --> 02:22:15,280
little bit of his his in uh lou's convo

3964
02:22:19,510 --> 02:22:16,960
a couple nights ago was really good man

3965
02:22:21,110 --> 02:22:19,520
like yeah he's he's he's awesome

3966
02:22:22,870 --> 02:22:21,120
uh but so

3967
02:22:24,790 --> 02:22:22,880
did he say anything

3968
02:22:27,510 --> 02:22:24,800
you're talking about telescopes did he

3969
02:22:28,309 --> 02:22:27,520
say anything about the uh the vatican no

3970
02:22:34,630 --> 02:22:28,319
no

3971
02:22:35,970 --> 02:22:34,640
what do you think about lucifer the

3972
02:22:40,150 --> 02:22:35,980
telescope

3973
02:22:43,670 --> 02:22:41,910
every every time i post tick tock i get

3974
02:22:45,590 --> 02:22:43,680
people telling me that it's just demons

3975
02:22:47,830 --> 02:22:45,600
like it's like every single video

3976
02:22:49,830 --> 02:22:47,840
someone says it's demons

3977
02:22:51,110 --> 02:22:49,840
we were live yesterday and like there

3978
02:22:51,990 --> 02:22:51,120
was at least a couple people that were

3979
02:22:54,070 --> 02:22:52,000
like

3980
02:22:56,790 --> 02:22:54,080
the lord hey

3981
02:23:01,110 --> 02:22:56,800
quit it the lord says quit now

3982
02:23:03,990 --> 02:23:01,120
well what's funny is alex dietrich the

3983
02:23:05,990 --> 02:23:04,000
dave fravor's wingman wing woman i guess

3984
02:23:07,510 --> 02:23:06,000
she was talking about

3985
02:23:09,750 --> 02:23:07,520
ufo twitter and she was saying like

3986
02:23:11,990 --> 02:23:09,760
there's all these sets basically of

3987
02:23:13,590 --> 02:23:12,000
different people these groups that are

3988
02:23:15,510 --> 02:23:13,600
for this thing they're all looking for

3989
02:23:17,990 --> 02:23:15,520
answers and then there's this religious

3990
02:23:18,710 --> 02:23:18,000
group i haven't figured them out yet and

3991
02:23:21,030 --> 02:23:18,720
then

3992
02:23:22,550 --> 02:23:21,040
she moved on from there because it is it

3993
02:23:24,870 --> 02:23:22,560
is

3994
02:23:26,309 --> 02:23:24,880
i don't know man it's it's hard to grasp

3995
02:23:28,070 --> 02:23:26,319
it's hard to understand and it's not an

3996
02:23:31,110 --> 02:23:28,080
official stance of anything like it's

3997
02:23:32,710 --> 02:23:31,120
not an official organization hasn't come

3998
02:23:34,950 --> 02:23:32,720
out and said hey i'm the catholic church

3999
02:23:36,710 --> 02:23:34,960
and i think these things are demons

4000
02:23:38,389 --> 02:23:36,720
it's just people that read the bible

4001
02:23:40,309 --> 02:23:38,399
that interpret in a certain way which

4002
02:23:42,230 --> 02:23:40,319
it's up to you to interpret the

4003
02:23:44,309 --> 02:23:42,240
information just like all this ufo

4004
02:23:46,389 --> 02:23:44,319
information it's up to you to interpret

4005
02:23:48,790 --> 02:23:46,399
it and make and think for yourself and

4006
02:23:50,150 --> 02:23:48,800
come up with what you think it is right

4007
02:23:52,710 --> 02:23:50,160
well i think that

4008
02:23:54,630 --> 02:23:52,720
that uh goes back to the idea of

4009
02:23:55,910 --> 02:23:54,640
everything is just

4010
02:23:57,670 --> 02:23:55,920
in our heads

4011
02:24:00,710 --> 02:23:57,680
we name things we're human we name

4012
02:24:03,110 --> 02:24:00,720
things it doesn't mean it is the thing

4013
02:24:07,270 --> 02:24:03,120
that we're both talking about man

4014
02:24:10,070 --> 02:24:07,280
it could be a demon it could be an angel

4015
02:24:12,150 --> 02:24:10,080
the fact that we put some uh sort of

4016
02:24:13,830 --> 02:24:12,160
guidelines or rules and attach them to

4017
02:24:15,910 --> 02:24:13,840
these entities i mean calling them

4018
02:24:17,750 --> 02:24:15,920
entities the closest word i can think of

4019
02:24:20,309 --> 02:24:17,760
that to describe them

4020
02:24:23,670 --> 02:24:20,319
is

4021
02:24:25,830 --> 02:24:23,680
they're not they're not going to abide

4022
02:24:26,630 --> 02:24:25,840
by the same rules that humans do they

4023
02:24:28,870 --> 02:24:26,640
don't

4024
02:24:33,510 --> 02:24:28,880
they may not have empathy they may they

4025
02:24:35,590 --> 02:24:33,520
may have more empathy than we do um they

4026
02:24:38,150 --> 02:24:35,600
who knows but just because we name

4027
02:24:39,590 --> 02:24:38,160
something a demon or an angel i'm not

4028
02:24:41,110 --> 02:24:39,600
trying to say the same thing i mean

4029
02:24:43,510 --> 02:24:41,120
obviously we all know that the

4030
02:24:45,270 --> 02:24:43,520
difference the innate difference uh in

4031
02:24:47,349 --> 02:24:45,280
our gut like what's wrong and what's

4032
02:24:48,790 --> 02:24:47,359
right but i feel like these entities

4033
02:24:51,349 --> 02:24:48,800
whoever they are or wherever they're

4034
02:24:52,389 --> 02:24:51,359
from don't really abide by

4035
02:24:55,590 --> 02:24:52,399
the

4036
02:24:58,469 --> 02:24:55,600
philosophical good or evil

4037
02:25:00,469 --> 02:24:58,479
if that makes sense yeah so um i mean

4038
02:25:02,309 --> 02:25:00,479
that brings me back did you answer that

4039
02:25:04,630 --> 02:25:02,319
like where are you at with the with the

4040
02:25:05,990 --> 02:25:04,640
ancient ones like i mean the goddess

4041
02:25:09,270 --> 02:25:06,000
hathor

4042
02:25:10,790 --> 02:25:09,280
do do you feel satisfied joe pesci

4043
02:25:12,550 --> 02:25:10,800
dale earnhardt jr

4044
02:25:14,389 --> 02:25:12,560
hurt junior a

4045
02:25:16,630 --> 02:25:14,399
part of the royal bloodline he is

4046
02:25:18,710 --> 02:25:16,640
actually so the the thing i always go

4047
02:25:20,950 --> 02:25:18,720
back to is lou's um

4048
02:25:21,990 --> 02:25:20,960
example he gave of a burning cigarette

4049
02:25:24,469 --> 02:25:22,000
and that

4050
02:25:26,309 --> 02:25:24,479
some entities might not view time or

4051
02:25:29,429 --> 02:25:26,319
perceive time the same way that we do we

4052
02:25:32,309 --> 02:25:29,439
see it as the burning cherry but what if

4053
02:25:34,550 --> 02:25:32,319
other entities have a much larger

4054
02:25:35,910 --> 02:25:34,560
cherry that represents the present maybe

4055
02:25:37,750 --> 02:25:35,920
it's all combined

4056
02:25:40,550 --> 02:25:37,760
so that that's to me

4057
02:25:41,349 --> 02:25:40,560
or that to me is when i

4058
02:25:43,510 --> 02:25:41,359
get

4059
02:25:44,309 --> 02:25:43,520
linked to the past directly like i feel

4060
02:25:45,750 --> 02:25:44,319
like

4061
02:25:49,030 --> 02:25:45,760
that's what would tie us to it if

4062
02:25:50,950 --> 02:25:49,040
there's a entity that can navigate time

4063
02:25:53,190 --> 02:25:50,960
like that then to

4064
02:25:55,349 --> 02:25:53,200
them we're all the same like us and the

4065
02:25:58,309 --> 02:25:55,359
ancient egyptians are the same

4066
02:25:59,349 --> 02:25:58,319
just in a different location basically

4067
02:26:01,750 --> 02:25:59,359
i don't know if i'm answering your

4068
02:26:03,590 --> 02:26:01,760
question there yeah no yeah i don't know

4069
02:26:04,870 --> 02:26:03,600
you know the answers dan you know the

4070
02:26:07,030 --> 02:26:04,880
answers

4071
02:26:09,830 --> 02:26:07,040
we just do the egyptians have way cooler

4072
02:26:10,870 --> 02:26:09,840
clothes than us so so have you guys seen

4073
02:26:13,349 --> 02:26:10,880
like

4074
02:26:16,070 --> 02:26:13,359
have you guys ever dug into the

4075
02:26:17,349 --> 02:26:16,080
feats that are in india like

4076
02:26:20,389 --> 02:26:17,359
i'm not really a footballer i'm not

4077
02:26:23,510 --> 02:26:20,399
really a foot fetish guy oh sorry sorry

4078
02:26:26,469 --> 02:26:23,520
the architectural marvels that are in uh

4079
02:26:29,750 --> 02:26:26,479
i can't said egypt that are in india are

4080
02:26:31,750 --> 02:26:29,760
phenomenal the yeah man yeah kailash

4081
02:26:34,469 --> 02:26:31,760
caverns or something like that i mean it

4082
02:26:36,389 --> 02:26:34,479
looks out of this world guys like yeah

4083
02:26:38,070 --> 02:26:36,399
the detail of their stuff we're looking

4084
02:26:41,110 --> 02:26:38,080
at some stuff where they were had like

4085
02:26:43,349 --> 02:26:41,120
uh uh separate moving parts like inside

4086
02:26:45,349 --> 02:26:43,359
yeah stone and they're like how do they

4087
02:26:47,349 --> 02:26:45,359
make this happen and

4088
02:26:49,190 --> 02:26:47,359
i think his name is praveen or something

4089
02:26:51,110 --> 02:26:49,200
like he's the youtube guy that's from

4090
02:26:53,670 --> 02:26:51,120
india that goes to all these things oh

4091
02:26:55,510 --> 02:26:53,680
my goodness man so incredible amazing

4092
02:26:58,469 --> 02:26:55,520
yeah you know who does a really good job

4093
02:27:00,550 --> 02:26:58,479
of of investigating not only egypt

4094
02:27:03,190 --> 02:27:00,560
ancient technology but all around the

4095
02:27:06,230 --> 02:27:03,200
world is bright inside

4096
02:27:08,070 --> 02:27:06,240
jimmy from bright insight dude geraldo

4097
02:27:09,270 --> 02:27:08,080
rivera

4098
02:27:11,110 --> 02:27:09,280
i thought that's where you were going

4099
02:27:12,630 --> 02:27:11,120
with that

4100
02:27:15,030 --> 02:27:12,640
yep

4101
02:27:17,349 --> 02:27:15,040
so he just put one out about the ricotta

4102
02:27:19,190 --> 02:27:17,359
structure again yes did you see that one

4103
02:27:21,590 --> 02:27:19,200
i did and i've been waiting for a part

4104
02:27:24,469 --> 02:27:21,600
two so it finally came out a couple days

4105
02:27:27,030 --> 02:27:24,479
ago uh joe did you see this the ricotta

4106
02:27:28,790 --> 02:27:27,040
structure is it's so jimmy from bright

4107
02:27:31,830 --> 02:27:28,800
jimmy jimmy

4108
02:27:32,950 --> 02:27:31,840
jimmy was off the hook man

4109
02:27:34,230 --> 02:27:32,960
he's off

4110
02:27:36,389 --> 02:27:34,240
off the hook

4111
02:27:38,550 --> 02:27:36,399
i haven't watched anything in like a

4112
02:27:40,469 --> 02:27:38,560
week

4113
02:27:42,230 --> 02:27:40,479
by the way dude that was a tom green

4114
02:27:44,389 --> 02:27:42,240
reference right it was

4115
02:27:46,309 --> 02:27:44,399
did was it you that said tom green had

4116
02:27:48,070 --> 02:27:46,319
reached out to you or followed no no he

4117
02:27:50,790 --> 02:27:48,080
he start he started following my channel

4118
02:27:53,270 --> 02:27:50,800
i think i'm one of 109 people that he's

4119
02:27:56,630 --> 02:27:53,280
following on tick-tock i'm so flattered

4120
02:27:59,110 --> 02:27:56,640
yeah it is my mom is on the risk

4121
02:28:00,790 --> 02:27:59,120
top green on the show yes he would be a

4122
02:28:02,389 --> 02:28:00,800
perfect fit for this tom green if you're

4123
02:28:04,469 --> 02:28:02,399
listening

4124
02:28:06,550 --> 02:28:04,479
thomas

4125
02:28:08,230 --> 02:28:06,560
i i had to write them

4126
02:28:09,750 --> 02:28:08,240
so when you beca when you follow someone

4127
02:28:12,469 --> 02:28:09,760
you can follow them back and then start

4128
02:28:14,150 --> 02:28:12,479
messaging them on tik tok and i said uh

4129
02:28:16,070 --> 02:28:14,160
undercutters pizza is still the best

4130
02:28:17,510 --> 02:28:16,080
pizza that was the first thing

4131
02:28:19,349 --> 02:28:17,520
i was like oh my god

4132
02:28:21,190 --> 02:28:19,359
that was one of the most genius sketches

4133
02:28:24,389 --> 02:28:21,200
of all times

4134
02:28:26,389 --> 02:28:24,399
it was hilarious dude [\h__\h] i don't know

4135
02:28:27,910 --> 02:28:26,399
the skit i'm sorry i feel terrible that

4136
02:28:30,630 --> 02:28:27,920
i don't know he would he would follow

4137
02:28:32,469 --> 02:28:30,640
this like a pizza delivery poor pizza

4138
02:28:33,510 --> 02:28:32,479
delivery guy he's like trying to do his

4139
02:28:35,270 --> 02:28:33,520
job

4140
02:28:36,950 --> 02:28:35,280
he would show up with him and then like

4141
02:28:39,110 --> 02:28:36,960
he would open a tackle box full of

4142
02:28:40,469 --> 02:28:39,120
ingredients like we can make your pizza

4143
02:28:42,150 --> 02:28:40,479
right now

4144
02:28:43,429 --> 02:28:42,160
like do it for less yeah we'll do it for

4145
02:28:45,830 --> 02:28:43,439
less

4146
02:28:47,910 --> 02:28:45,840
like he would have the dough ready

4147
02:28:49,590 --> 02:28:47,920
yeah it was crazy i could make your

4148
02:28:52,630 --> 02:28:49,600
pizza right now or like when he was

4149
02:28:54,309 --> 02:28:52,640
super confrontational about it oh man

4150
02:28:55,910 --> 02:28:54,319
it's hilarious like he would like run

4151
02:28:57,510 --> 02:28:55,920
through like soccer fields with kids

4152
02:29:00,469 --> 02:28:57,520
playing soccer and he would steal their

4153
02:29:02,070 --> 02:29:00,479
ball just run off with it

4154
02:29:04,230 --> 02:29:02,080
oh dude we need to bring that back like

4155
02:29:06,630 --> 02:29:04,240
the early 2000s humor i think is going

4156
02:29:08,790 --> 02:29:06,640
to come back in a strong way i hope so

4157
02:29:11,750 --> 02:29:08,800
we need people like tom green to

4158
02:29:14,790 --> 02:29:11,760
carry the terry terry the torch yeah tom

4159
02:29:15,990 --> 02:29:14,800
green taught me how to uh check my balls

4160
02:29:18,469 --> 02:29:16,000
for cancer

4161
02:29:21,750 --> 02:29:18,479
yep that that's sickly man magazine i

4162
02:29:24,550 --> 02:29:21,760
remember the front cover of it hey kids

4163
02:29:26,230 --> 02:29:24,560
rub your balls that way you don't get

4164
02:29:28,950 --> 02:29:26,240
cancer

4165
02:29:31,510 --> 02:29:28,960
squeeze your balls please your balls

4166
02:29:33,270 --> 02:29:31,520
that way you don't get cancer

4167
02:29:35,110 --> 02:29:33,280
yeah that's that's how i learned to

4168
02:29:36,389 --> 02:29:35,120
check my balls for cancer was tom green

4169
02:29:39,750 --> 02:29:36,399
so you could say whatever you want about

4170
02:29:41,750 --> 02:29:39,760
them but the dude was like i mean

4171
02:29:44,389 --> 02:29:41,760
he was all about it was in the music

4172
02:29:47,190 --> 02:29:44,399
guys the message is in the music that's

4173
02:29:50,790 --> 02:29:47,200
right man i used to love that show that

4174
02:29:52,870 --> 02:29:50,800
was great i loved it uh one of our one

4175
02:29:54,870 --> 02:29:52,880
of the people in the chat uh i think his

4176
02:29:56,150 --> 02:29:54,880
name was terry

4177
02:29:57,830 --> 02:29:56,160
um

4178
02:30:00,230 --> 02:29:57,840
he was like yeah i follow lou i saw

4179
02:30:03,349 --> 02:30:00,240
cemetery um and that's what i was gonna

4180
02:30:05,190 --> 02:30:03,359
ask or is cinnamon terry are you in the

4181
02:30:06,870 --> 02:30:05,200
chat right now and by the way he was

4182
02:30:09,349 --> 02:30:06,880
asking who we are

4183
02:30:11,670 --> 02:30:09,359
or the ufo garage podcast yeah ufo

4184
02:30:13,750 --> 02:30:11,680
garage podcast it's in the it's on the

4185
02:30:16,070 --> 02:30:13,760
youtube it's in the title yeah oh hey

4186
02:30:17,590 --> 02:30:16,080
also uh tammy thanks for hanging out i

4187
02:30:19,190 --> 02:30:17,600
mean at the very beginning there was a

4188
02:30:20,710 --> 02:30:19,200
there was some a little bit of troll

4189
02:30:22,469 --> 02:30:20,720
action and and thanks for like keeping

4190
02:30:23,750 --> 02:30:22,479
the positivity i have to shout out sure

4191
02:30:26,469 --> 02:30:23,760
for that so

4192
02:30:28,630 --> 02:30:26,479
yeah and also will william uh had her

4193
02:30:30,710 --> 02:30:28,640
backs too there was you know no one

4194
02:30:31,990 --> 02:30:30,720
knows us and we're just goofballs and

4195
02:30:34,230 --> 02:30:32,000
you know people come to this channel

4196
02:30:36,309 --> 02:30:34,240
expecting this serious conversation they

4197
02:30:38,550 --> 02:30:36,319
don't really know us yet so william also

4198
02:30:41,030 --> 02:30:38,560
shout out to you uh for for keeping the

4199
02:30:42,950 --> 02:30:41,040
vibe in check dude i really appreciate

4200
02:30:45,270 --> 02:30:42,960
it and beverly wanted to know if you

4201
02:30:46,710 --> 02:30:45,280
have your own channel dan if you can go

4202
02:30:48,550 --> 02:30:46,720
over that stuff again i mean you have

4203
02:30:51,270 --> 02:30:48,560
your tick tock and all that stuff so

4204
02:30:53,510 --> 02:30:51,280
give another uh plug to your stuff and

4205
02:30:56,790 --> 02:30:53,520
people are asking about it so yeah so

4206
02:30:58,070 --> 02:30:56,800
i'm on um ufo twitter a lot so if you

4207
02:30:59,910 --> 02:30:58,080
want to look up

4208
02:31:02,710 --> 02:30:59,920
i think it's just dan warren it's my

4209
02:31:05,110 --> 02:31:02,720
name t-a-n-w-a-r-r-e-n

4210
02:31:07,349 --> 02:31:05,120
uh you can find me there um if you want

4211
02:31:09,590 --> 02:31:07,359
to find me on tik-tok like i said you

4212
02:31:12,550 --> 02:31:09,600
can just search for users and put ufo in

4213
02:31:15,990 --> 02:31:12,560
there i'm the fifth pillar of emphasis

4214
02:31:18,790 --> 02:31:16,000
which is a name that i ca that came from

4215
02:31:20,950 --> 02:31:18,800
one of the comments lou made um

4216
02:31:22,389 --> 02:31:20,960
it might have been on lou ximenez uh

4217
02:31:23,270 --> 02:31:22,399
podcast where he's talking about the

4218
02:31:25,910 --> 02:31:23,280
different

4219
02:31:26,950 --> 02:31:25,920
parts the pillars that he is going to

4220
02:31:29,030 --> 02:31:26,960
um

4221
02:31:29,910 --> 02:31:29,040
put forward yeah there it is

4222
02:31:31,830 --> 02:31:29,920
um

4223
02:31:32,710 --> 02:31:31,840
but they're taking care of the first

4224
02:31:34,950 --> 02:31:32,720
four

4225
02:31:36,630 --> 02:31:34,960
the fifth pillar of emphasis is engaging

4226
02:31:37,990 --> 02:31:36,640
the masses and that's what i'm

4227
02:31:40,630 --> 02:31:38,000
attempting to do

4228
02:31:44,389 --> 02:31:40,640
i want to it was actually on ufo podcast

4229
02:31:46,389 --> 02:31:44,399
or that ufo uap podcast with andy right

4230
02:31:48,550 --> 02:31:46,399
um but he

4231
02:31:50,950 --> 02:31:48,560
he kind of put a tr an issue issued a

4232
02:31:52,150 --> 02:31:50,960
challenge out there and said hey get off

4233
02:31:53,990 --> 02:31:52,160
your ass

4234
02:31:55,670 --> 02:31:54,000
start having a conversation do something

4235
02:31:57,030 --> 02:31:55,680
and it was at that point when i said all

4236
02:31:58,710 --> 02:31:57,040
right well i'm going to try to engage

4237
02:32:01,510 --> 02:31:58,720
with the masses as the fifth pillar of

4238
02:32:03,910 --> 02:32:01,520
emphasis in any way i can and i'll tell

4239
02:32:07,190 --> 02:32:03,920
you right now i think that ufo twitter

4240
02:32:09,750 --> 02:32:07,200
needs to start getting onto tick tock to

4241
02:32:11,349 --> 02:32:09,760
try to reach a broader base because we

4242
02:32:14,469 --> 02:32:11,359
tend to

4243
02:32:16,309 --> 02:32:14,479
preach the choir on ufo twitter

4244
02:32:18,870 --> 02:32:16,319
but we're reaching out i feel like i can

4245
02:32:21,590 --> 02:32:18,880
reach a bunch of new people on tik tok

4246
02:32:25,429 --> 02:32:21,600
in an easy to consume format so look me

4247
02:32:28,070 --> 02:32:25,439
up on tick tock and i've got almost 250

4248
02:32:30,070 --> 02:32:28,080
quick little videos i try to make them

4249
02:32:33,110 --> 02:32:30,080
packed full of information and not

4250
02:32:35,190 --> 02:32:33,120
opinion so uh yeah man that's awesome

4251
02:32:36,790 --> 02:32:35,200
cliff notes for what's going on you know

4252
02:32:39,910 --> 02:32:36,800
me and ben were talking about a new way

4253
02:32:40,950 --> 02:32:39,920
to like really reach the masses and and

4254
02:32:42,790 --> 02:32:40,960
uh

4255
02:32:45,190 --> 02:32:42,800
we're just not sure if like the us

4256
02:32:47,030 --> 02:32:45,200
postal service is is ready for that kind

4257
02:32:49,030 --> 02:32:47,040
of challenge i mean you know you write a

4258
02:32:51,349 --> 02:32:49,040
handwritten note to every person in the

4259
02:32:53,830 --> 02:32:51,359
country it means a lot more you know

4260
02:32:55,990 --> 02:32:53,840
yeah it does so you know we got we got a

4261
02:32:57,910 --> 02:32:56,000
busy year ahead of us

4262
02:33:01,030 --> 02:32:57,920
i i need to order the

4263
02:33:03,030 --> 02:33:01,040
all the envelopes and so much

4264
02:33:04,830 --> 02:33:03,040
hey if you guys want to help the podcast

4265
02:33:07,349 --> 02:33:04,840
out y'all can donate at ufo

4266
02:33:08,870 --> 02:33:07,359
garagepodcast.com to help us get stamps

4267
02:33:10,070 --> 02:33:08,880
yeah for all these letters stamps that

4268
02:33:11,830 --> 02:33:10,080
we're going to be sending what is a

4269
02:33:14,070 --> 02:33:11,840
stamp does anybody know what a stamp

4270
02:33:16,550 --> 02:33:14,080
cost i have no idea

4271
02:33:18,870 --> 02:33:16,560
they're 275 it's ever-changing dan it's

4272
02:33:21,429 --> 02:33:18,880
a it's an economy itself and the stamp

4273
02:33:23,510 --> 02:33:21,439
economy is booming right it's incredible

4274
02:33:25,750 --> 02:33:23,520
my wife has these woodstock stamps and

4275
02:33:27,190 --> 02:33:25,760
they're pretty expensive i was pretty

4276
02:33:29,349 --> 02:33:27,200
mad when she was like yeah they were

4277
02:33:32,469 --> 02:33:29,359
like five bucks

4278
02:33:35,110 --> 02:33:32,479
really yeah no can i have one

4279
02:33:39,830 --> 02:33:35,120
no they're five bucks why not yeah okay

4280
02:33:45,510 --> 02:33:43,349
uh william said 47 cents oh 47 cents no

4281
02:33:47,190 --> 02:33:45,520
we got a fact well we got a fact checker

4282
02:33:50,790 --> 02:33:47,200
the

4283
02:33:52,630 --> 02:33:50,800
it

4284
02:33:55,110 --> 02:33:52,640
all right i remember when they were 25

4285
02:33:56,710 --> 02:33:55,120
cents for first class that's that's how

4286
02:33:59,830 --> 02:33:56,720
far back i go

4287
02:34:01,670 --> 02:33:59,840
pepperidge farm remembers yes

4288
02:34:04,309 --> 02:34:01,680
yeah i only have canadian money it's

4289
02:34:05,270 --> 02:34:04,319
kind of like monopoly money but prettier

4290
02:34:08,150 --> 02:34:05,280
yeah

4291
02:34:09,429 --> 02:34:08,160
it is pretty that was pretty money dude

4292
02:34:11,990 --> 02:34:09,439
do you can eat yeah

4293
02:34:15,349 --> 02:34:12,000
also australian money is really

4294
02:34:15,830 --> 02:34:15,359
dope have you seen oh yeah they got

4295
02:34:18,070 --> 02:34:15,840
yeah koalas

4296
02:34:19,750 --> 02:34:18,080
kinds of fuzzy little creatures

4297
02:34:21,750 --> 02:34:19,760
and some reptiles

4298
02:34:24,790 --> 02:34:21,760
they need steve irwin on there somewhere

4299
02:34:27,429 --> 02:34:24,800
dude i know he needs to be like the 100

4300
02:34:29,349 --> 02:34:27,439
bill yeah yeah whatever their money i

4301
02:34:31,270 --> 02:34:29,359
was addicted to his i was addicted to

4302
02:34:33,830 --> 02:34:31,280
the crocodile hunter when his stuff was

4303
02:34:36,150 --> 02:34:33,840
coming on man that was some of the best

4304
02:34:37,990 --> 02:34:36,160
tv watching that's ever been i mean did

4305
02:34:40,550 --> 02:34:38,000
you have that friend that could imitate

4306
02:34:42,710 --> 02:34:40,560
his voice like i had a friend that could

4307
02:34:44,950 --> 02:34:42,720
nail it every single time boy it was

4308
02:34:47,750 --> 02:34:44,960
great i'm going to stick my head up this

4309
02:34:49,750 --> 02:34:47,760
rhinoceros's s just to see what happens

4310
02:34:51,510 --> 02:34:49,760
yep

4311
02:34:53,030 --> 02:34:51,520
that's like a quote from something i saw

4312
02:34:54,550 --> 02:34:53,040
a long time ago i'm sorry i don't know

4313
02:34:56,710 --> 02:34:54,560
who originally made that joke i didn't

4314
02:34:58,710 --> 02:34:56,720
know south park i think yeah south park

4315
02:35:00,710 --> 02:34:58,720
okay yeah

4316
02:35:02,550 --> 02:35:00,720
most of my personality comes from south

4317
02:35:04,710 --> 02:35:02,560
park so

4318
02:35:07,510 --> 02:35:04,720
that's another one this is another one

4319
02:35:09,670 --> 02:35:07,520
uh so man like

4320
02:35:12,469 --> 02:35:09,680
out of uh out of everything like we're

4321
02:35:14,389 --> 02:35:12,479
on the topic of like like money right uh

4322
02:35:17,110 --> 02:35:14,399
maybe this is boring but i kind of want

4323
02:35:19,830 --> 02:35:17,120
to get back to that that conversation of

4324
02:35:21,270 --> 02:35:19,840
what if this new technology uh that

4325
02:35:23,030 --> 02:35:21,280
might come out maybe there's some

4326
02:35:25,429 --> 02:35:23,040
information there's some rumors in the

4327
02:35:28,309 --> 02:35:25,439
in the mill at the water jug at the

4328
02:35:31,110 --> 02:35:28,319
element 115 jug that uh

4329
02:35:33,910 --> 02:35:31,120
this new civilization is

4330
02:35:36,070 --> 02:35:33,920
is going to be catalyzed or catalystic

4331
02:35:39,030 --> 02:35:36,080
whatever the verb is by this new

4332
02:35:41,750 --> 02:35:39,040
technology and what if that technology

4333
02:35:43,830 --> 02:35:41,760
requires a resource a resource that is

4334
02:35:46,710 --> 02:35:43,840
highly coveted by other intelligent

4335
02:35:49,030 --> 02:35:46,720
races among the stars and they really

4336
02:35:51,990 --> 02:35:49,040
don't want any competition for that

4337
02:35:54,550 --> 02:35:52,000
resource resource uh i mean if we're

4338
02:35:56,230 --> 02:35:54,560
talking like element 115 yeah that we

4339
02:35:58,070 --> 02:35:56,240
all kind of know that they're interested

4340
02:36:00,150 --> 02:35:58,080
and seen the documentary

4341
02:36:01,990 --> 02:36:00,160
if that element is really precious and

4342
02:36:03,830 --> 02:36:02,000
only

4343
02:36:06,070 --> 02:36:03,840
happens in specific parts of the

4344
02:36:07,510 --> 02:36:06,080
universe or maybe it happens in a

4345
02:36:08,950 --> 02:36:07,520
different dimension

4346
02:36:11,910 --> 02:36:08,960
i don't know i'm just kind of coming up

4347
02:36:13,750 --> 02:36:11,920
with ideas it would make sense that the

4348
02:36:15,830 --> 02:36:13,760
powers that be kind of want to keep it

4349
02:36:16,870 --> 02:36:15,840
hush hush right like

4350
02:36:18,309 --> 02:36:16,880
this

4351
02:36:20,469 --> 02:36:18,319
does that are you guys following with

4352
02:36:23,030 --> 02:36:20,479
that like if a new a new technology

4353
02:36:25,750 --> 02:36:23,040
requires a new resource right what if

4354
02:36:27,590 --> 02:36:25,760
that's why all the secrecy they want to

4355
02:36:29,190 --> 02:36:27,600
monopolize the resource is what you're

4356
02:36:30,230 --> 02:36:29,200
basically saying yeah but you would

4357
02:36:32,790 --> 02:36:30,240
think that they would only be

4358
02:36:34,710 --> 02:36:32,800
monopolizing the resource for

4359
02:36:36,309 --> 02:36:34,720
other fellow humans i mean if these

4360
02:36:39,510 --> 02:36:36,319
things are using the resources are you

4361
02:36:41,590 --> 02:36:39,520
still talking about the government

4362
02:36:43,349 --> 02:36:41,600
yeah absolutely

4363
02:36:45,590 --> 02:36:43,359
but it's like if these things like you

4364
02:36:48,870 --> 02:36:45,600
know if they're if they are flying

4365
02:36:50,550 --> 02:36:48,880
across the galaxy i mean

4366
02:36:53,110 --> 02:36:50,560
the universe

4367
02:36:56,469 --> 02:36:53,120
i mean the research has got to be pretty

4368
02:36:59,030 --> 02:36:56,479
abundant you know it's just that

4369
02:37:01,030 --> 02:36:59,040
me and ben and you can't go and get the

4370
02:37:03,270 --> 02:37:01,040
resource or know how to harvest the

4371
02:37:05,590 --> 02:37:03,280
resource or whatever but

4372
02:37:07,110 --> 02:37:05,600
the powers that be can so like i mean

4373
02:37:10,790 --> 02:37:07,120
that would be

4374
02:37:13,750 --> 02:37:10,800
like once again it's just another thing

4375
02:37:16,389 --> 02:37:13,760
that's restricted to the the public but

4376
02:37:18,389 --> 02:37:16,399
everybody else except for you know those

4377
02:37:20,070 --> 02:37:18,399
people and the and the aliens

4378
02:37:22,230 --> 02:37:20,080
they can all get it all right let me ask

4379
02:37:24,230 --> 02:37:22,240
you this we're talking about

4380
02:37:26,230 --> 02:37:24,240
weird propulsion systems that could use

4381
02:37:28,710 --> 02:37:26,240
something special like

4382
02:37:30,469 --> 02:37:28,720
i struggle with

4383
02:37:32,870 --> 02:37:30,479
when lou talks about

4384
02:37:35,030 --> 02:37:32,880
we have bits and pieces of something

4385
02:37:37,270 --> 02:37:35,040
from an off world or i can't remember

4386
02:37:38,950 --> 02:37:37,280
exact verbiage he used like he's it

4387
02:37:40,790 --> 02:37:38,960
seems to be just like a little bit or a

4388
02:37:42,790 --> 02:37:40,800
piece and then there's people that are

4389
02:37:46,309 --> 02:37:42,800
on the other end saying we have entire

4390
02:37:48,950 --> 02:37:46,319
intact craft like i don't know how to

4391
02:37:52,070 --> 02:37:48,960
combine those two in the same narrative

4392
02:37:54,710 --> 02:37:52,080
like is some is someone wrong or is

4393
02:37:57,110 --> 02:37:54,720
someone just uninformed like is lou just

4394
02:37:58,950 --> 02:37:57,120
not privy to the information that says

4395
02:38:01,910 --> 02:37:58,960
yeah we got something

4396
02:38:04,870 --> 02:38:01,920
something special and functional that we

4397
02:38:06,710 --> 02:38:04,880
don't show anyone like how do you guys

4398
02:38:07,750 --> 02:38:06,720
feel about

4399
02:38:09,270 --> 02:38:07,760
the little

4400
02:38:11,349 --> 02:38:09,280
layered bismuth

4401
02:38:14,790 --> 02:38:11,359
magnesium sample that everybody talks

4402
02:38:17,590 --> 02:38:14,800
about versus an intact craft two totally

4403
02:38:19,270 --> 02:38:17,600
different things absolutely two totally

4404
02:38:21,830 --> 02:38:19,280
different things and i think when you

4405
02:38:23,349 --> 02:38:21,840
look at the way that everything is is

4406
02:38:25,750 --> 02:38:23,359
you know you've had you've heard so many

4407
02:38:29,590 --> 02:38:26,830
talking

4408
02:38:31,910 --> 02:38:29,600
about the compartmentalization of

4409
02:38:35,349 --> 02:38:31,920
everything and everything being done

4410
02:38:37,750 --> 02:38:35,359
like separately and it's like well

4411
02:38:40,389 --> 02:38:37,760
when we look at lou's job

4412
02:38:44,309 --> 02:38:40,399
compared to somebody who is like a

4413
02:38:45,349 --> 02:38:44,319
scientist working on on this technology

4414
02:38:48,150 --> 02:38:45,359
i mean

4415
02:38:50,150 --> 02:38:48,160
yeah they probably have two different

4416
02:38:52,389 --> 02:38:50,160
uh ideas of what's happening because

4417
02:38:55,270 --> 02:38:52,399
they were privy to two completely

4418
02:38:58,150 --> 02:38:55,280
different types of information and also

4419
02:38:59,510 --> 02:38:58,160
how long have have you know

4420
02:39:02,070 --> 02:38:59,520
somebody could have been working on this

4421
02:39:03,429 --> 02:39:02,080
technology for 50 plus years you know

4422
02:39:05,830 --> 02:39:03,439
and you know

4423
02:39:08,389 --> 02:39:05,840
lou being in for a few years and like

4424
02:39:09,510 --> 02:39:08,399
the atif stuff and i'm sure he did a lot

4425
02:39:11,030 --> 02:39:09,520
of

4426
02:39:12,389 --> 02:39:11,040
you know and you don't want to go too

4427
02:39:15,750 --> 02:39:12,399
deep but i mean i'm sure you did a lot

4428
02:39:17,830 --> 02:39:15,760
of crazy [\h__\h] but

4429
02:39:19,429 --> 02:39:17,840
i don't know like you're investigators

4430
02:39:21,190 --> 02:39:19,439
like lou like people who go out and

4431
02:39:23,190 --> 02:39:21,200
investigate and do stuff in the field

4432
02:39:25,270 --> 02:39:23,200
like are are they getting the same

4433
02:39:27,349 --> 02:39:25,280
information as the people who are like

4434
02:39:28,870 --> 02:39:27,359
having to work on the technology you

4435
02:39:31,110 --> 02:39:28,880
know like it's almost like are they just

4436
02:39:33,270 --> 02:39:31,120
trying to cross-check each other like

4437
02:39:35,830 --> 02:39:33,280
okay we have this technology we need to

4438
02:39:37,590 --> 02:39:35,840
figure out kind of like you know uh

4439
02:39:39,429 --> 02:39:37,600
some more some more data points like he

4440
02:39:41,270 --> 02:39:39,439
was talking about so like how can we

4441
02:39:42,870 --> 02:39:41,280
make this work let's see how it flies

4442
02:39:43,990 --> 02:39:42,880
okay let's create this other separate

4443
02:39:46,469 --> 02:39:44,000
group that just goes out and

4444
02:39:48,309 --> 02:39:46,479
investigates and collects data and we

4445
02:39:50,630 --> 02:39:48,319
can cross-reference that data that we're

4446
02:39:53,030 --> 02:39:50,640
collecting with what we already have and

4447
02:39:55,190 --> 02:39:53,040
see if we can make that work because we

4448
02:39:58,389 --> 02:39:55,200
don't understand how it works yet you

4449
02:40:01,190 --> 02:39:58,399
know that's kind of how i feel about it

4450
02:40:03,349 --> 02:40:01,200
yeah and then what's the fuel for

4451
02:40:05,510 --> 02:40:03,359
right what they've done like it

4452
02:40:07,429 --> 02:40:05,520
i don't know it's it's so complicated

4453
02:40:08,790 --> 02:40:07,439
what would be interesting is that the

4454
02:40:10,150 --> 02:40:08,800
fuel is

4455
02:40:11,750 --> 02:40:10,160
is

4456
02:40:12,950 --> 02:40:11,760
meditation

4457
02:40:15,349 --> 02:40:12,960
or like

4458
02:40:18,550 --> 02:40:15,359
like really concentrated

4459
02:40:20,469 --> 02:40:18,560
consciousness like if it's free if if

4460
02:40:23,349 --> 02:40:20,479
this fuel is free everybody's talking

4461
02:40:25,190 --> 02:40:23,359
about free energy zero point energy what

4462
02:40:26,070 --> 02:40:25,200
if it was so easy

4463
02:40:28,630 --> 02:40:26,080
that

4464
02:40:30,550 --> 02:40:28,640
we realized oh my god dude we've like we

4465
02:40:33,030 --> 02:40:30,560
could do this we can make anything work

4466
02:40:36,070 --> 02:40:33,040
if if we just have that click in our

4467
02:40:38,070 --> 02:40:36,080
head you know that that unbiased opinion

4468
02:40:40,550 --> 02:40:38,080
where it where it becomes not just an

4469
02:40:42,790 --> 02:40:40,560
idea of the subconscious but a reality

4470
02:40:44,389 --> 02:40:42,800
of the conscious that you can actually

4471
02:40:45,910 --> 02:40:44,399
make a difference in like you know we're

4472
02:40:47,510 --> 02:40:45,920
talking about magic like

4473
02:40:50,309 --> 02:40:47,520
uh creating a difference in your

4474
02:40:51,349 --> 02:40:50,319
physical reality if it was that easy

4475
02:40:56,150 --> 02:40:51,359
uh

4476
02:40:58,150 --> 02:40:56,160
off of a

4477
02:41:00,710 --> 02:40:58,160
a meter is going to be very

4478
02:41:02,790 --> 02:41:00,720
uncomfortable with that reality if if we

4479
02:41:03,750 --> 02:41:02,800
all realize that this fuel

4480
02:41:06,550 --> 02:41:03,760
is

4481
02:41:07,830 --> 02:41:06,560
uh available to us at any time we just

4482
02:41:09,670 --> 02:41:07,840
have to think about it

4483
02:41:12,230 --> 02:41:09,680
um all we need to know is this little

4484
02:41:14,710 --> 02:41:12,240
key this um to unlock that key to to

4485
02:41:16,630 --> 02:41:14,720
understand how to to make this work uh

4486
02:41:19,429 --> 02:41:16,640
that'll be very dangerous for those that

4487
02:41:21,510 --> 02:41:19,439
make a lot of money off of this this

4488
02:41:24,070 --> 02:41:21,520
economy this current current economy

4489
02:41:25,429 --> 02:41:24,080
yeah definitely

4490
02:41:27,110 --> 02:41:25,439
i don't know if that anything made sense

4491
02:41:28,950 --> 02:41:27,120
terry says since these guys are dropping

4492
02:41:30,550 --> 02:41:28,960
info when is someone going to inform

4493
02:41:34,070 --> 02:41:30,560
them that

4494
02:41:35,830 --> 02:41:34,080
any info from black budget programs uh

4495
02:41:39,510 --> 02:41:35,840
isn't subject to nda

4496
02:41:41,030 --> 02:41:39,520
yeah yeah totally yeah no we know

4497
02:41:42,710 --> 02:41:41,040
yeah yeah you're not gonna get it i mean

4498
02:41:44,150 --> 02:41:42,720
you're just not gonna get it that's why

4499
02:41:45,990 --> 02:41:44,160
we're talking about the difference with

4500
02:41:47,269 --> 02:41:46,000
like what people are studying as opposed

4501
02:41:49,190 --> 02:41:47,279
to like what these people are doing in

4502
02:41:50,710 --> 02:41:49,200
the field like how are they connecting

4503
02:41:52,550 --> 02:41:50,720
this information i don't know we don't

4504
02:41:54,630 --> 02:41:52,560
know you can't you know

4505
02:41:57,590 --> 02:41:54,640
well i think he's talking about

4506
02:41:59,670 --> 02:41:57,600
not ndas but like foyus like it's uh

4507
02:42:01,590 --> 02:41:59,680
like if you have a special access

4508
02:42:04,790 --> 02:42:01,600
program outside of the government and

4509
02:42:07,349 --> 02:42:04,800
yeah in industry it's not for a bull

4510
02:42:09,750 --> 02:42:07,359
right by the way um speaking of the king

4511
02:42:11,830 --> 02:42:09,760
of foia did you see what uh john

4512
02:42:13,590 --> 02:42:11,840
greenwald put out today this is

4513
02:42:15,349 --> 02:42:13,600
something that i was wanting to ask uh

4514
02:42:17,110 --> 02:42:15,359
lou about but it was one where i was

4515
02:42:18,150 --> 02:42:17,120
like i know he's not gonna answer this

4516
02:42:20,550 --> 02:42:18,160
question

4517
02:42:22,389 --> 02:42:20,560
so i'm not even gonna bother but john

4518
02:42:24,870 --> 02:42:22,399
greenwald for the last two or three

4519
02:42:27,429 --> 02:42:24,880
years has been putting foia requests in

4520
02:42:30,150 --> 02:42:27,439
to get lou elizondo's emails that had

4521
02:42:32,630 --> 02:42:30,160
the word unidentified in them ah yeah

4522
02:42:34,950 --> 02:42:32,640
and okay and they've come back and he's

4523
02:42:37,990 --> 02:42:34,960
appealed it multiple times and then they

4524
02:42:40,150 --> 02:42:38,000
finally came back and today he put in

4525
02:42:41,590 --> 02:42:40,160
uh an article together that says they

4526
02:42:43,349 --> 02:42:41,600
basically just admitted that they've

4527
02:42:45,830 --> 02:42:43,359
destroyed all of luella's on those

4528
02:42:47,110 --> 02:42:45,840
emails which to me is like nah i don't

4529
02:42:48,630 --> 02:42:47,120
believe it i don't believe it at all

4530
02:42:50,710 --> 02:42:48,640
like it's it's there but they're we're

4531
02:42:52,550 --> 02:42:50,720
not gonna get them so it's like

4532
02:42:54,950 --> 02:42:52,560
and it just makes you go lou is being

4533
02:42:57,590 --> 02:42:54,960
erased that's what that

4534
02:43:01,030 --> 02:42:57,600
lose military service or government

4535
02:43:02,790 --> 02:43:01,040
services being erased right now oh [\h__\h]

4536
02:43:04,230 --> 02:43:02,800
really yeah

4537
02:43:05,510 --> 02:43:04,240
well i mean the cat's out of the bag we

4538
02:43:07,670 --> 02:43:05,520
already have the evidence that he worked

4539
02:43:09,349 --> 02:43:07,680
at the pentagon right at least we have

4540
02:43:12,630 --> 02:43:09,359
the evidence that he but they go

4541
02:43:15,110 --> 02:43:12,640
flip-flop on that and that's why he has

4542
02:43:17,269 --> 02:43:15,120
put in the request for the evaluation or

4543
02:43:19,349 --> 02:43:17,279
the inspection from the dod inspector

4544
02:43:21,830 --> 02:43:19,359
general over this because of the

4545
02:43:22,950 --> 02:43:21,840
flip-flopping from the public affairs

4546
02:43:26,309 --> 02:43:22,960
office on

4547
02:43:28,870 --> 02:43:26,319
what how they're handling the uap issue

4548
02:43:31,670 --> 02:43:28,880
as well as lou like he's basically like

4549
02:43:34,230 --> 02:43:31,680
i i haven't heard him say things that

4550
02:43:36,070 --> 02:43:34,240
his lawyer danny sheehan has said but

4551
02:43:37,349 --> 02:43:36,080
he's basically pissed he's like they

4552
02:43:39,510 --> 02:43:37,359
they're dragging me through the mud

4553
02:43:42,150 --> 02:43:39,520
they're they're they're tarnishing my

4554
02:43:44,309 --> 02:43:42,160
image they're spreading lies to about me

4555
02:43:47,110 --> 02:43:44,319
to the american people and about what we

4556
02:43:49,429 --> 02:43:47,120
can do and he's pissed about it so

4557
02:43:52,150 --> 02:43:49,439
that that that's where i think he's

4558
02:43:53,990 --> 02:43:52,160
being erased from from it

4559
02:43:55,269 --> 02:43:54,000
yeah for sure man

4560
02:43:56,309 --> 02:43:55,279
for sure

4561
02:44:01,030 --> 02:43:56,319
it's

4562
02:44:02,230 --> 02:44:01,040
worked there like well yeah i mean are

4563
02:44:03,510 --> 02:44:02,240
they just gonna like write new history

4564
02:44:05,590 --> 02:44:03,520
books

4565
02:44:07,750 --> 02:44:05,600
like uh uh well he didn't work for the

4566
02:44:10,710 --> 02:44:07,760
pentagon he worked at the pentagon like

4567
02:44:13,190 --> 02:44:10,720
as a contractor and and you know there's

4568
02:44:14,950 --> 02:44:13,200
a lot of like verbage and like word that

4569
02:44:16,469 --> 02:44:14,960
words that they're using that makes it

4570
02:44:19,269 --> 02:44:16,479
confusing

4571
02:44:20,150 --> 02:44:19,279
even if he was i mean yeah we've heard

4572
02:44:22,710 --> 02:44:20,160
from

4573
02:44:23,590 --> 02:44:22,720
uh did louis all no park in that parking

4574
02:44:28,309 --> 02:44:23,600
lot

4575
02:44:30,469 --> 02:44:28,319
yes then he worked there like what's the

4576
02:44:34,469 --> 02:44:30,479
semantics here like

4577
02:44:36,309 --> 02:44:34,479
oh no no i didn't work there i i i

4578
02:44:37,030 --> 02:44:36,319
worked for them like you're not gonna

4579
02:44:42,710 --> 02:44:37,040
like

4580
02:44:44,630 --> 02:44:42,720
yahoo email address or a hotmail email

4581
02:44:46,230 --> 02:44:44,640
address you're gonna get a government

4582
02:44:47,990 --> 02:44:46,240
email address that it's on a private

4583
02:44:49,590 --> 02:44:48,000
server right like so they have all

4584
02:44:50,870 --> 02:44:49,600
control of that i mean

4585
02:44:53,110 --> 02:44:50,880
when you leave uh when you leave a

4586
02:44:55,110 --> 02:44:53,120
college you no longer have access to

4587
02:44:57,590 --> 02:44:55,120
that email like a couple of months after

4588
02:44:59,670 --> 02:44:57,600
that like i i uh

4589
02:45:01,429 --> 02:44:59,680
but the people that still work there

4590
02:45:03,269 --> 02:45:01,439
that he was emailing

4591
02:45:04,710 --> 02:45:03,279
they still have it like i don't know how

4592
02:45:07,429 --> 02:45:04,720
how good you guys are cleaning out your

4593
02:45:09,510 --> 02:45:07,439
inboxes but i got them back for years

4594
02:45:11,750 --> 02:45:09,520
and they're going to archive like so if

4595
02:45:13,110 --> 02:45:11,760
if lew had emailed me i'd still have it

4596
02:45:15,030 --> 02:45:13,120
on my record so that's where i have a

4597
02:45:16,950 --> 02:45:15,040
hard time believing

4598
02:45:19,349 --> 02:45:16,960
they don't have anything to bring to the

4599
02:45:21,030 --> 02:45:19,359
table that's that's another technology i

4600
02:45:23,429 --> 02:45:21,040
want to bring to the table for uh for uh

4601
02:45:25,830 --> 02:45:23,439
ball skin company inco is uh uh email

4602
02:45:27,850 --> 02:45:25,840
cleaning service yeah definitely called

4603
02:45:29,349 --> 02:45:27,860
email douche

4604
02:45:30,950 --> 02:45:29,359
[Laughter]

4605
02:45:33,830 --> 02:45:30,960
cleans it right out putting that out

4606
02:45:37,269 --> 02:45:33,840
there yeah yeah plain and simple do you

4607
02:45:47,190 --> 02:45:38,790
do you

4608
02:45:48,309 --> 02:45:47,200
to feel sexy while you're checking your

4609
02:45:50,389 --> 02:45:48,319
email

4610
02:45:51,670 --> 02:45:50,399
do you want to ladies do you want to

4611
02:45:53,030 --> 02:45:51,680
feel fresh

4612
02:45:54,230 --> 02:45:53,040
when you're checking your email every

4613
02:45:56,150 --> 02:45:54,240
morning

4614
02:45:59,190 --> 02:45:56,160
dude i have thousands of emails i need

4615
02:46:02,070 --> 02:45:59,200
to email douche immediately

4616
02:46:04,070 --> 02:46:02,080
my inbox sucks dude it's and i'm trying

4617
02:46:05,510 --> 02:46:04,080
to check the podcast emails dude it's

4618
02:46:07,510 --> 02:46:05,520
like your phone that's what you need

4619
02:46:09,429 --> 02:46:07,520
it's like it's like i scroll through and

4620
02:46:12,550 --> 02:46:09,439
i start deleting and then like i delete

4621
02:46:14,230 --> 02:46:12,560
like 600 and i'm like i'm so sleepy

4622
02:46:16,389 --> 02:46:14,240
right now and i'm not even halfway

4623
02:46:18,550 --> 02:46:16,399
through my emails and i can't just

4624
02:46:20,790 --> 02:46:18,560
select all because there's a few

4625
02:46:22,630 --> 02:46:20,800
important emails i have to go through

4626
02:46:24,870 --> 02:46:22,640
and like i should have been doing this

4627
02:46:27,030 --> 02:46:24,880
like two years ago and like i started

4628
02:46:29,830 --> 02:46:27,040
like a couple months ago and slowly but

4629
02:46:31,670 --> 02:46:29,840
surely i delete emails but dude like

4630
02:46:33,429 --> 02:46:31,680
they just keep piling up i think it's a

4631
02:46:35,670 --> 02:46:33,439
lost cause

4632
02:46:37,990 --> 02:46:35,680
i'm right i'm right there with you man

4633
02:46:40,070 --> 02:46:38,000
sometimes i need four digits for sure

4634
02:46:41,910 --> 02:46:40,080
yeah i just know that i don't need to go

4635
02:46:43,750 --> 02:46:41,920
past page two

4636
02:46:46,469 --> 02:46:43,760
that's pretty much it

4637
02:46:48,550 --> 02:46:46,479
i pretty much unless it says like dan

4638
02:46:50,070 --> 02:46:48,560
and as the first word in the email it's

4639
02:46:53,349 --> 02:46:50,080
like i'm not gonna read it it's not for

4640
02:46:57,750 --> 02:46:55,670
i i always search for like uh discount

4641
02:46:59,349 --> 02:46:57,760
like i i search for discount and then

4642
02:47:01,750 --> 02:46:59,359
every email that i find that says

4643
02:47:03,030 --> 02:47:01,760
discount or any kind of monetary uh

4644
02:47:05,590 --> 02:47:03,040
nomenclature

4645
02:47:06,950 --> 02:47:05,600
i just send to spam immediately or

4646
02:47:08,950 --> 02:47:06,960
opportunity

4647
02:47:11,190 --> 02:47:08,960
uh that's another um

4648
02:47:13,670 --> 02:47:11,200
anyway trial email

4649
02:47:15,190 --> 02:47:13,680
it's uh yeah for uh free for download

4650
02:47:16,630 --> 02:47:15,200
from public schools

4651
02:47:18,950 --> 02:47:16,640
the comment that's up right now is about

4652
02:47:21,590 --> 02:47:18,960
richard dolan i am a big richard dolan

4653
02:47:24,150 --> 02:47:21,600
fan oh that's got that guy

4654
02:47:26,389 --> 02:47:24,160
has quite the memory on a man i i don't

4655
02:47:29,510 --> 02:47:26,399
know how he knows so much and can just

4656
02:47:31,910 --> 02:47:29,520
recall it like dates days

4657
02:47:33,590 --> 02:47:31,920
events locations all that stuff man he's

4658
02:47:35,750 --> 02:47:33,600
just got like it

4659
02:47:38,230 --> 02:47:35,760
he's got it going on up there well well

4660
02:47:41,030 --> 02:47:38,240
pretty much i i i have a photographic

4661
02:47:42,710 --> 02:47:41,040
memory and uh anytime i read something i

4662
02:47:45,830 --> 02:47:42,720
can pretty much just remember it for the

4663
02:47:48,389 --> 02:47:45,840
most part and and he is like i feel like

4664
02:47:50,469 --> 02:47:48,399
he's also come around to lou i i think

4665
02:47:53,590 --> 02:47:50,479
he was pretty leery at first but lately

4666
02:47:55,830 --> 02:47:53,600
he has been very pro and he's basically

4667
02:47:59,110 --> 02:47:55,840
i feel like he's starting to talk about

4668
02:48:00,630 --> 02:47:59,120
the subject in a way that we are like

4669
02:48:03,190 --> 02:48:00,640
there's so much

4670
02:48:05,510 --> 02:48:03,200
evidence of this happening it's probably

4671
02:48:07,269 --> 02:48:05,520
what's happening yeah opposed to well

4672
02:48:08,870 --> 02:48:07,279
there's this one little flaw in the

4673
02:48:10,309 --> 02:48:08,880
logic that loose

4674
02:48:12,550 --> 02:48:10,319
didn't have any assigned

4675
02:48:15,670 --> 02:48:12,560
responsibilities for a tip well come on

4676
02:48:17,990 --> 02:48:15,680
man yeah that's just yeah blowing smoke

4677
02:48:20,309 --> 02:48:18,000
basically we're just it's like got down

4678
02:48:22,230 --> 02:48:20,319
to semantics at this point it's like so

4679
02:48:25,190 --> 02:48:22,240
we're talking about one word yeah right

4680
02:48:27,030 --> 02:48:25,200
yeah i mean yes one word it can be very

4681
02:48:29,269 --> 02:48:27,040
important but

4682
02:48:31,990 --> 02:48:29,279
i you know like like i said man like i i

4683
02:48:35,030 --> 02:48:32,000
was very leery at first you know and the

4684
02:48:39,030 --> 02:48:35,040
more i hear the guy talk i mean

4685
02:48:40,630 --> 02:48:39,040
i'm i i i still hold my my skepticism a

4686
02:48:44,070 --> 02:48:40,640
little bit but at the same time you know

4687
02:48:45,429 --> 02:48:44,080
it's like it's it's like okay you extend

4688
02:48:47,429 --> 02:48:45,439
the olive branch and you're like all

4689
02:48:49,830 --> 02:48:47,439
right we're gonna start fresh you know

4690
02:48:53,269 --> 02:48:49,840
like you seem to be pretty genuine

4691
02:48:55,590 --> 02:48:53,279
um and all you can do is

4692
02:48:57,830 --> 02:48:55,600
hope he spits on it first if if this is

4693
02:48:59,910 --> 02:48:57,840
all you know smoke and mirrors you know

4694
02:49:01,830 --> 02:48:59,920
that's all that's all you can really do

4695
02:49:03,190 --> 02:49:01,840
but for the time being like if we're

4696
02:49:05,510 --> 02:49:03,200
going to be

4697
02:49:08,070 --> 02:49:05,520
all working together let's give it a

4698
02:49:11,269 --> 02:49:08,080
shot let's see what happens you know if

4699
02:49:12,710 --> 02:49:11,279
we if we have this if it's true

4700
02:49:15,110 --> 02:49:12,720
and you have like these government

4701
02:49:16,550 --> 02:49:15,120
people that are like look we

4702
02:49:18,870 --> 02:49:16,560
genuinely

4703
02:49:20,790 --> 02:49:18,880
would like to help get some stuff done

4704
02:49:22,150 --> 02:49:20,800
you know that's awesome

4705
02:49:24,150 --> 02:49:22,160
yeah so he was basically when he came

4706
02:49:25,190 --> 02:49:24,160
out he was basically guilty until proven

4707
02:49:26,950 --> 02:49:25,200
innocent

4708
02:49:29,590 --> 02:49:26,960
but it was more

4709
02:49:30,550 --> 02:49:29,600
liar until proven proven truthful is

4710
02:49:32,710 --> 02:49:30,560
kind of

4711
02:49:34,469 --> 02:49:32,720
what what he's had to go through in the

4712
02:49:35,670 --> 02:49:34,479
ufo community

4713
02:49:37,670 --> 02:49:35,680
right

4714
02:49:39,349 --> 02:49:37,680
while the pentagon is taking shots at

4715
02:49:40,710 --> 02:49:39,359
him because they're pissed at the way

4716
02:49:42,790 --> 02:49:40,720
that he left

4717
02:49:45,590 --> 02:49:42,800
so it's it's been a rough road for him

4718
02:49:48,309 --> 02:49:45,600
man it really has it really has and and

4719
02:49:51,910 --> 02:49:48,319
i'm glad that he you know was like yeah

4720
02:49:53,190 --> 02:49:51,920
i totally understand why you know

4721
02:49:55,030 --> 02:49:53,200
because there's been a lot of gnarly

4722
02:49:57,110 --> 02:49:55,040
stuff that happens you know okay i mean

4723
02:49:58,630 --> 02:49:57,120
you can't expect all these people to

4724
02:50:00,950 --> 02:49:58,640
just be like

4725
02:50:03,190 --> 02:50:00,960
oh yeah i trust lou you know and i'm

4726
02:50:04,790 --> 02:50:03,200
glad that he gets that you know but then

4727
02:50:06,389 --> 02:50:04,800
you you know

4728
02:50:08,950 --> 02:50:06,399
like like you said he starts getting all

4729
02:50:10,630 --> 02:50:08,960
his flak from the pentagon and like all

4730
02:50:13,190 --> 02:50:10,640
like the people that you assume are like

4731
02:50:15,190 --> 02:50:13,200
his buddies and then you're like

4732
02:50:17,990 --> 02:50:15,200
oh maybe he's telling the truth these

4733
02:50:20,710 --> 02:50:18,000
guys are giving him [\h__\h] you know yeah

4734
02:50:23,750 --> 02:50:20,720
so yeah i've definitely i've definitely

4735
02:50:25,349 --> 02:50:23,760
switched my opinion uh you know quite a

4736
02:50:29,190 --> 02:50:25,359
bit like i said i

4737
02:50:32,550 --> 02:50:29,200
i still like my guard's not totally down

4738
02:50:33,830 --> 02:50:32,560
um if something were to go the other way

4739
02:50:35,429 --> 02:50:33,840
you know it'd be kind of one of those

4740
02:50:37,990 --> 02:50:35,439
like

4741
02:50:40,950 --> 02:50:38,000
well i guess i'm not surprised you know

4742
02:50:43,429 --> 02:50:40,960
like if this is all like awesome good

4743
02:50:44,870 --> 02:50:43,439
true information and it is very genuine

4744
02:50:46,710 --> 02:50:44,880
i mean that's

4745
02:50:48,870 --> 02:50:46,720
dude that's that's what that's what

4746
02:50:50,550 --> 02:50:48,880
we've been been asking for this whole

4747
02:50:52,790 --> 02:50:50,560
time and i have

4748
02:50:55,110 --> 02:50:52,800
my view of chris mellon is just about

4749
02:50:56,870 --> 02:50:55,120
identical to to my perspective of lou at

4750
02:50:58,630 --> 02:50:56,880
this point like i i

4751
02:51:00,150 --> 02:50:58,640
i don't know about you guys but i didn't

4752
02:51:01,830 --> 02:51:00,160
trust chris

4753
02:51:03,030 --> 02:51:01,840
as much

4754
02:51:06,150 --> 02:51:03,040
and i don't even know if trust the right

4755
02:51:09,110 --> 02:51:06,160
word i had i had less suspicions of lou

4756
02:51:11,190 --> 02:51:09,120
i had more suspicions of chris when they

4757
02:51:13,429 --> 02:51:11,200
first came out because he's he lives in

4758
02:51:16,469 --> 02:51:13,439
a different world than us like

4759
02:51:18,550 --> 02:51:16,479
his vocabulary the the way that he

4760
02:51:20,710 --> 02:51:18,560
navigates through the government is

4761
02:51:24,710 --> 02:51:20,720
an entirely different planet than we

4762
02:51:27,349 --> 02:51:24,720
live on guys oh yeah so like for that

4763
02:51:29,670 --> 02:51:27,359
guy to be on our side it's like you

4764
02:51:31,590 --> 02:51:29,680
shouldn't be on our side you're the guy

4765
02:51:34,389 --> 02:51:31,600
that should be against what we're doing

4766
02:51:36,790 --> 02:51:34,399
so for him to be on our side is

4767
02:51:39,190 --> 02:51:36,800
it was hard a big pill to swallow but

4768
02:51:40,710 --> 02:51:39,200
man it has paid off in spades to have

4769
02:51:43,190 --> 02:51:40,720
that guy on the team

4770
02:51:45,030 --> 02:51:43,200
for sure yeah yeah i mean yeah yeah yeah

4771
02:51:46,950 --> 02:51:45,040
absolutely that rogan interview was was

4772
02:51:50,469 --> 02:51:46,960
epic man like that was awesome

4773
02:51:53,510 --> 02:51:50,479
uh so we have a gecko live uh joe and

4774
02:51:55,269 --> 02:51:53,520
ben did you ever ask uh lou about dr

4775
02:51:57,190 --> 02:51:55,279
greer willing oh

4776
02:51:58,950 --> 02:51:57,200
uh about dr grill

4777
02:52:01,349 --> 02:51:58,960
greer willing to participate in a

4778
02:52:03,830 --> 02:52:01,359
discussion on third phase of me

4779
02:52:06,150 --> 02:52:03,840
i i heard a little rumblings on twitter

4780
02:52:07,910 --> 02:52:06,160
about this like connection between grier

4781
02:52:09,830 --> 02:52:07,920
and like there's some kind of beef going

4782
02:52:11,830 --> 02:52:09,840
on or something i had the same lawyer i

4783
02:52:14,150 --> 02:52:11,840
think oh okay well this is something

4784
02:52:16,150 --> 02:52:14,160
about third phase dude okay this is my

4785
02:52:17,670 --> 02:52:16,160
personal i don't know anything what the

4786
02:52:19,190 --> 02:52:17,680
third phase of moon is doing now but

4787
02:52:20,710 --> 02:52:19,200
that was like when i first started

4788
02:52:22,790 --> 02:52:20,720
getting into ufos that was like one of

4789
02:52:25,269 --> 02:52:22,800
the first uh channels that i started

4790
02:52:29,670 --> 02:52:25,279
watching but i quickly

4791
02:52:31,750 --> 02:52:29,680
realized like not every video was uh

4792
02:52:33,590 --> 02:52:31,760
truthful i mean i'm not trying to like

4793
02:52:35,590 --> 02:52:33,600
you know start anything or like talk

4794
02:52:37,670 --> 02:52:35,600
[\h__\h] but it's it

4795
02:52:39,269 --> 02:52:37,680
it i think it's i don't know if it's

4796
02:52:40,550 --> 02:52:39,279
entertainment or if it's suppose i just

4797
02:52:41,910 --> 02:52:40,560
don't know is it supposed to be

4798
02:52:43,990 --> 02:52:41,920
entertainment or is it supposed to be

4799
02:52:47,190 --> 02:52:44,000
like breaking news here's some actual

4800
02:52:49,910 --> 02:52:47,200
ufo videos um i don't know like or is it

4801
02:52:51,510 --> 02:52:49,920
like hey here's all these ufos you

4802
02:52:54,070 --> 02:52:51,520
figure it out

4803
02:52:55,830 --> 02:52:54,080
hey you look it up you look it up

4804
02:52:58,469 --> 02:52:55,840
but you know the first time i saw the

4805
02:53:01,269 --> 02:52:58,479
palestinian uh ufo video did you you

4806
02:53:03,269 --> 02:53:01,279
know i got out the dome of the rock

4807
02:53:05,510 --> 02:53:03,279
that was the that was the the channel

4808
02:53:07,349 --> 02:53:05,520
that i saw that on first i know it was

4809
02:53:10,429 --> 02:53:07,359
uploaded by someone else it was just

4810
02:53:13,349 --> 02:53:10,439
like you know i don't know if it was

4811
02:53:14,790 --> 02:53:13,359
re-surfaced by third phase of moon but

4812
02:53:15,510 --> 02:53:14,800
anyway i don't know the story behind it

4813
02:53:17,830 --> 02:53:15,520
but

4814
02:53:19,830 --> 02:53:17,840
at least it led me down a path to to

4815
02:53:21,190 --> 02:53:19,840
open up those those doors so i mean i

4816
02:53:22,710 --> 02:53:21,200
don't know what what's going on with

4817
02:53:24,630 --> 02:53:22,720
grier and everything

4818
02:53:26,950 --> 02:53:24,640
i can fill you in a little bit on that

4819
02:53:29,030 --> 02:53:26,960
so so the

4820
02:53:31,990 --> 02:53:29,040
dr stephen grier has come out and

4821
02:53:32,870 --> 02:53:32,000
basically said get ready for the alien

4822
02:53:36,230 --> 02:53:32,880
fake

4823
02:53:38,469 --> 02:53:36,240
false flag invasion with holograms where

4824
02:53:41,269 --> 02:53:38,479
it's coming lou elizondo was a

4825
02:53:43,349 --> 02:53:41,279
disinformation agent and you need to we

4826
02:53:45,910 --> 02:53:43,359
need to have a talk about it basically

4827
02:53:47,269 --> 02:53:45,920
and lou was on sor yesterday and

4828
02:53:48,870 --> 02:53:47,279
basically said

4829
02:53:50,870 --> 02:53:48,880
and he asked him the question are you

4830
02:53:52,950 --> 02:53:50,880
going to go and debate stephen greer and

4831
02:53:54,870 --> 02:53:52,960
he said if i walked by

4832
02:53:57,110 --> 02:53:54,880
a middle school playground and the kids

4833
02:53:58,870 --> 02:53:57,120
yelled at me and were calling me names i

4834
02:54:00,950 --> 02:53:58,880
want to jump over the fence and go beat

4835
02:54:03,670 --> 02:54:00,960
them up i'm just going to walk on

4836
02:54:04,630 --> 02:54:03,680
because there's no point i'm

4837
02:54:07,429 --> 02:54:04,640
basically

4838
02:54:09,510 --> 02:54:07,439
above that so uh he's not going to

4839
02:54:12,630 --> 02:54:09,520
participate in a debate with stephen

4840
02:54:14,469 --> 02:54:12,640
greer on uh third phase of moon

4841
02:54:16,950 --> 02:54:14,479
that's probably a smart move

4842
02:54:18,870 --> 02:54:16,960
uh

4843
02:54:23,269 --> 02:54:18,880
there i mean how do you have a debate a

4844
02:54:24,550 --> 02:54:23,279
debate without uh divulging

4845
02:54:26,469 --> 02:54:24,560
information that you shouldn't be

4846
02:54:27,590 --> 02:54:26,479
talking about right right

4847
02:54:28,870 --> 02:54:27,600
it's yeah

4848
02:54:31,510 --> 02:54:28,880
it's kind of like

4849
02:54:32,870 --> 02:54:31,520
well we could talk about

4850
02:54:35,030 --> 02:54:32,880
everything that we talk about on this

4851
02:54:36,230 --> 02:54:35,040
podcast after lou kind of got off was

4852
02:54:39,190 --> 02:54:36,240
like dude

4853
02:54:40,630 --> 02:54:39,200
it's not the time yet maybe one day uh

4854
02:54:42,630 --> 02:54:40,640
dan you were saying like maybe 10 years

4855
02:54:43,990 --> 02:54:42,640
from now sure yeah probably would have

4856
02:54:45,269 --> 02:54:44,000
the conversation that's what i'm

4857
02:54:48,150 --> 02:54:45,279
guessing but

4858
02:54:49,990 --> 02:54:48,160
uh i don't know like wait so so there

4859
02:54:52,469 --> 02:54:50,000
was literally like a uh

4860
02:54:54,550 --> 02:54:52,479
they wanted to have a debate on third

4861
02:54:57,990 --> 02:54:54,560
phase of moons like talking about the

4862
02:55:01,110 --> 02:54:58,000
threat was that kind of yeah it

4863
02:55:03,750 --> 02:55:01,120
revolves around the threat narrative and

4864
02:55:05,830 --> 02:55:03,760
in my opinion lose

4865
02:55:07,990 --> 02:55:05,840
it's his vocabulary he uses the word

4866
02:55:09,830 --> 02:55:08,000
threat it doesn't mean

4867
02:55:11,750 --> 02:55:09,840
hostility it doesn't mean they're coming

4868
02:55:14,150 --> 02:55:11,760
to get us it just means

4869
02:55:16,950 --> 02:55:14,160
it's we don't know we don't know what it

4870
02:55:19,030 --> 02:55:16,960
is so until we do it could potentially

4871
02:55:21,590 --> 02:55:19,040
cause harm um

4872
02:55:23,510 --> 02:55:21,600
but stephen greers views that as they're

4873
02:55:25,910 --> 02:55:23,520
trying to instill fear in the community

4874
02:55:28,230 --> 02:55:25,920
in the population so that they can then

4875
02:55:31,990 --> 02:55:28,240
put a holographic projection in the

4876
02:55:34,469 --> 02:55:32,000
skies as a fake alien invasion to

4877
02:55:36,790 --> 02:55:34,479
garner power and control the masses is

4878
02:55:39,590 --> 02:55:36,800
basically what stephen and asked for

4879
02:55:41,269 --> 02:55:39,600
told by warner von braun uh according to

4880
02:55:44,389 --> 02:55:41,279
stephen greer

4881
02:55:46,550 --> 02:55:44,399
and carol rosin i believe is her name i

4882
02:55:47,990 --> 02:55:46,560
mean but like there's some bits there i

4883
02:55:49,269 --> 02:55:48,000
feel like there's some bits in there

4884
02:55:52,070 --> 02:55:49,279
that

4885
02:55:53,190 --> 02:55:52,080
could possibly be true so so what what i

4886
02:55:54,950 --> 02:55:53,200
heard

4887
02:55:56,870 --> 02:55:54,960
i i want to say it was dolan that was

4888
02:55:58,469 --> 02:55:56,880
talking about it but i think he was

4889
02:56:01,590 --> 02:55:58,479
getting interviewed by engaging the

4890
02:56:04,309 --> 02:56:01,600
phenomenon james ian doley and was asked

4891
02:56:06,870 --> 02:56:04,319
about that and he said well

4892
02:56:08,309 --> 02:56:06,880
sure what if they did do it how long

4893
02:56:11,510 --> 02:56:08,319
could they possibly keep up a

4894
02:56:12,950 --> 02:56:11,520
holographic invasion before someone said

4895
02:56:15,910 --> 02:56:12,960
hey look i put my hand right through

4896
02:56:18,630 --> 02:56:15,920
this thing it's not

4897
02:56:22,710 --> 02:56:18,640
it's fake like and that game over at

4898
02:56:24,469 --> 02:56:22,720
that point someone else like puts a like

4899
02:56:26,630 --> 02:56:24,479
dude we had talked about this on one of

4900
02:56:28,550 --> 02:56:26,640
the shows on like how at this point dude

4901
02:56:30,230 --> 02:56:28,560
like this holographic stuff is almost

4902
02:56:31,910 --> 02:56:30,240
like outdated

4903
02:56:34,389 --> 02:56:31,920
like by now you would think that the

4904
02:56:36,150 --> 02:56:34,399
technology that they would use is is far

4905
02:56:38,309 --> 02:56:36,160
superior to just

4906
02:56:40,870 --> 02:56:38,319
shining a hologram up in the sky you

4907
02:56:42,710 --> 02:56:40,880
know i mean it's like we had talked

4908
02:56:44,550 --> 02:56:42,720
about like how you know the military

4909
02:56:46,309 --> 02:56:44,560
released that stuff on how they use like

4910
02:56:48,230 --> 02:56:46,319
the voice the skull technology where

4911
02:56:50,469 --> 02:56:48,240
they would literally like shine a laser

4912
02:56:52,469 --> 02:56:50,479
at your head and make you hear noises

4913
02:56:54,309 --> 02:56:52,479
and people talking to you and yeah they

4914
02:56:55,990 --> 02:56:54,319
would you know use that kind of stuff i

4915
02:56:58,150 --> 02:56:56,000
mean like i don't know i kind of feel

4916
02:57:00,070 --> 02:56:58,160
like maybe like yeah there's some

4917
02:57:02,790 --> 02:57:00,080
there's some uh weight to that like a

4918
02:57:04,630 --> 02:57:02,800
hologram in the sky by this point might

4919
02:57:06,950 --> 02:57:04,640
be a little outdated i mean that's your

4920
02:57:09,269 --> 02:57:06,960
whole like project bluebeam type stuff

4921
02:57:11,670 --> 02:57:09,279
that you know people always yeah people

4922
02:57:13,750 --> 02:57:11,680
always talk about and and uh yeah at

4923
02:57:16,309 --> 02:57:13,760
some point i think maybe yeah that was

4924
02:57:18,710 --> 02:57:16,319
probably a good move but

4925
02:57:21,830 --> 02:57:18,720
it's like now that information is

4926
02:57:23,910 --> 02:57:21,840
rolling out like and people are talking

4927
02:57:26,070 --> 02:57:23,920
about the bluebeam stuff but like it's

4928
02:57:28,630 --> 02:57:26,080
it's like i feel like we're we may be

4929
02:57:31,510 --> 02:57:28,640
past that era at this point i think

4930
02:57:33,349 --> 02:57:31,520
whatever it is is probably

4931
02:57:35,830 --> 02:57:33,359
if some of these things are flying

4932
02:57:38,309 --> 02:57:35,840
around and it is us i think they would

4933
02:57:40,950 --> 02:57:38,319
just use the actual machine

4934
02:57:43,429 --> 02:57:40,960
yeah point of using a hologram so so if

4935
02:57:45,190 --> 02:57:43,439
they're flying holograms around you know

4936
02:57:47,670 --> 02:57:45,200
someone's gonna fly a drone right into

4937
02:57:50,230 --> 02:57:47,680
the hologram just to see it there yeah

4938
02:57:52,150 --> 02:57:50,240
yeah absolutely there's gonna be people

4939
02:57:54,389 --> 02:57:52,160
shooting guns at it and all kinds of

4940
02:57:57,110 --> 02:57:54,399
stuff i mean it's it's it's wild i

4941
02:57:59,670 --> 02:57:57,120
understand why they don't just show up

4942
02:58:01,590 --> 02:57:59,680
you know oh that was one thing that uh

4943
02:58:04,070 --> 02:58:01,600
i'm thinking about as well you know how

4944
02:58:06,070 --> 02:58:04,080
the there's always the conversation like

4945
02:58:08,309 --> 02:58:06,080
hey we don't want to have

4946
02:58:10,230 --> 02:58:08,319
a more advanced civilization

4947
02:58:11,750 --> 02:58:10,240
meet us because it's never worked out

4948
02:58:13,190 --> 02:58:11,760
good for

4949
02:58:15,349 --> 02:58:13,200
the lesser

4950
02:58:16,790 --> 02:58:15,359
advanced technology technological

4951
02:58:18,790 --> 02:58:16,800
civilization

4952
02:58:21,269 --> 02:58:18,800
i'm thinking that what happens is at

4953
02:58:22,230 --> 02:58:21,279
some point in civilization it kind of

4954
02:58:24,630 --> 02:58:22,240
shifts

4955
02:58:27,750 --> 02:58:24,640
like there is an island in the indian

4956
02:58:30,389 --> 02:58:27,760
ocean where the natives are still like

4957
02:58:33,110 --> 02:58:30,399
in the stone age basically and we don't

4958
02:58:35,110 --> 02:58:33,120
even mess with them we they they kill us

4959
02:58:37,110 --> 02:58:35,120
if we go to their island so we just said

4960
02:58:39,030 --> 02:58:37,120
all right we're gonna back off and not

4961
02:58:41,349 --> 02:58:39,040
engage with these people because they're

4962
02:58:43,510 --> 02:58:41,359
content doing what they're they're doing

4963
02:58:45,830 --> 02:58:43,520
and i'm thinking it's almost like at a

4964
02:58:47,349 --> 02:58:45,840
certain point in the advancement of a

4965
02:58:49,429 --> 02:58:47,359
civilization

4966
02:58:52,070 --> 02:58:49,439
you start to care about the other

4967
02:58:54,389 --> 02:58:52,080
civilizations and you don't want to hurt

4968
02:58:56,550 --> 02:58:54,399
them you want to

4969
02:58:58,790 --> 02:58:56,560
provide for them help them out or not

4970
02:58:59,990 --> 02:58:58,800
engage with them at all to distract them

4971
02:59:02,950 --> 02:59:00,000
from what they're doing and just let

4972
02:59:04,790 --> 02:59:02,960
them go about their business

4973
02:59:08,070 --> 02:59:04,800
yeah possibly yeah

4974
02:59:11,349 --> 02:59:10,309
dude i don't know i don't know

4975
02:59:13,429 --> 02:59:11,359
do they

4976
02:59:16,070 --> 02:59:13,439
you know do we know do we know if the

4977
02:59:19,429 --> 02:59:16,080
the steven seagal thing worked out

4978
02:59:22,710 --> 02:59:19,439
with uh uh i think uh greer was working

4979
02:59:24,790 --> 02:59:22,720
on a a an emergency documentary that was

4980
02:59:26,469 --> 02:59:24,800
gonna be like published in july i had

4981
02:59:29,510 --> 02:59:26,479
heard about it and uh steven seagal was

4982
02:59:32,469 --> 02:59:29,520
gonna be in it i i don't know

4983
02:59:33,990 --> 02:59:32,479
i want to see steven seagal in a new

4984
02:59:38,710 --> 02:59:34,000
like an alien flick that would be sick

4985
02:59:42,790 --> 02:59:41,030
like yeah it sounds ridiculous but like

4986
02:59:45,269 --> 02:59:42,800
it would be awesome he's like teaching

4987
02:59:47,670 --> 02:59:45,279
he's like teaching karate to aliens

4988
02:59:50,230 --> 02:59:47,680
all right if if stephen greer gets to

4989
02:59:54,830 --> 02:59:50,240
have him on his film i think lou should

4990
02:59:59,670 --> 02:59:58,230
yes let me also love that

4991
03:00:02,870 --> 02:59:59,680
have you ever heard one of his

4992
03:00:06,150 --> 03:00:02,880
interviews about ufos

4993
03:00:08,309 --> 03:00:06,160
that guy's amazing man yeah dan aykroyd

4994
03:00:11,349 --> 03:00:08,319
is awesome he's another person kind of

4995
03:00:13,190 --> 03:00:11,359
like uh uh richie dolan and we're like

4996
03:00:15,349 --> 03:00:13,200
he's really good with numbers and dates

4997
03:00:17,750 --> 03:00:15,359
and names yeah he just spit him off and

4998
03:00:20,309 --> 03:00:17,760
he just in such a casual

4999
03:00:23,110 --> 03:00:20,319
manner he's just just so smooth about it

5000
03:00:25,750 --> 03:00:23,120
too man he's impressive yeah oh yeah

5001
03:00:28,309 --> 03:00:25,760
yeah he's he's super awesome

5002
03:00:29,670 --> 03:00:28,319
that guy had a

5003
03:00:31,429 --> 03:00:29,680
i think it was a

5004
03:00:34,230 --> 03:00:31,439
like yeah there was a documentary that

5005
03:00:36,070 --> 03:00:34,240
he was doing uh a while back a long time

5006
03:00:37,910 --> 03:00:36,080
ago and they

5007
03:00:39,349 --> 03:00:37,920
he said that some people pulled up to

5008
03:00:40,710 --> 03:00:39,359
him and was like hey

5009
03:00:42,150 --> 03:00:40,720
shut your mouth basically he went

5010
03:00:44,230 --> 03:00:42,160
outside to smoke a cigarette and they

5011
03:00:46,150 --> 03:00:44,240
showed up and was like hey

5012
03:00:50,389 --> 03:00:46,160
you know stop talking about that

5013
03:00:53,110 --> 03:00:50,399
yeah and he was like well [\h__\h] okay

5014
03:00:54,469 --> 03:00:53,120
okay i guess i'm done well

5015
03:00:57,269 --> 03:00:54,479
the funny thing is like what do you talk

5016
03:00:59,269 --> 03:00:57,279
about after that like yeah okay

5017
03:01:01,910 --> 03:00:59,279
um

5018
03:01:04,150 --> 03:01:01,920
it's good uh is that ring you guys

5019
03:01:05,670 --> 03:01:04,160
hungry

5020
03:01:06,550 --> 03:01:05,680
we're done with the documentary wrap it

5021
03:01:08,469 --> 03:01:06,560
up

5022
03:01:09,670 --> 03:01:08,479
yeah man that would suck so bad

5023
03:01:10,710 --> 03:01:09,680
especially if you like you're almost

5024
03:01:13,910 --> 03:01:10,720
done

5025
03:01:16,550 --> 03:01:15,590
i can hear nibbler snoring in the

5026
03:01:18,230 --> 03:01:16,560
background

5027
03:01:21,670 --> 03:01:18,240
yeah i saw him spinning around back

5028
03:01:24,230 --> 03:01:21,680
there earlier like trying to make a nest

5029
03:01:25,960 --> 03:01:24,240
sleepy

5030
03:01:27,990 --> 03:01:25,970
look at it

5031
03:01:29,590 --> 03:01:28,000
[Laughter]

5032
03:01:31,429 --> 03:01:29,600
all right man

5033
03:01:32,950 --> 03:01:31,439
uh we're gonna get a close-up on nibbler

5034
03:01:34,870 --> 03:01:32,960
really quick yeah

5035
03:01:36,790 --> 03:01:34,880
oh it's not letting me do it he's trying

5036
03:01:39,190 --> 03:01:36,800
to just make your bicep look big what

5037
03:01:41,030 --> 03:01:39,200
are you talking about

5038
03:01:44,469 --> 03:01:41,040
he's trying to flex on us you're not

5039
03:01:46,309 --> 03:01:44,479
buff dude you're not good

5040
03:01:48,150 --> 03:01:46,319
dude don't lie dude i'm freaking like so

5041
03:01:51,910 --> 03:01:48,160
rich

5042
03:01:54,790 --> 03:01:51,920
i'm like 150 pounds

5043
03:01:57,830 --> 03:01:54,800
lucky i'm full of uh sinew sinew and

5044
03:01:59,590 --> 03:01:57,840
bone uh man dan i can't thank you enough

5045
03:02:01,030 --> 03:01:59,600
for hopping on dude like this this is

5046
03:02:02,790 --> 03:02:01,040
awesome i don't think i mean it wouldn't

5047
03:02:04,790 --> 03:02:02,800
be the the same without you so i i'm

5048
03:02:06,790 --> 03:02:04,800
just glad it worked out like everything

5049
03:02:08,550 --> 03:02:06,800
definitely man yeah i can't tell you how

5050
03:02:10,150 --> 03:02:08,560
grateful i am for letting me come on

5051
03:02:12,469 --> 03:02:10,160
this thing and uh get to have a

5052
03:02:16,150 --> 03:02:12,479
conversation with lou who i very much

5053
03:02:18,469 --> 03:02:16,160
appreciate it i i owe you guys big

5054
03:02:20,550 --> 03:02:18,479
dude well i mean that's that's kind of

5055
03:02:22,710 --> 03:02:20,560
the thing right like we just kind of

5056
03:02:23,830 --> 03:02:22,720
scratch each other's backs or our balls

5057
03:02:25,830 --> 03:02:23,840
or whatever

5058
03:02:27,590 --> 03:02:25,840
yeah dude we'll just you know it's like

5059
03:02:29,990 --> 03:02:27,600
we gotta help each other out man you

5060
03:02:32,710 --> 03:02:30,000
know i i think as long as you're open to

5061
03:02:34,469 --> 03:02:32,720
one day joining um our uh to the farts

5062
03:02:36,150 --> 03:02:34,479
academy or ball skin and company and co

5063
03:02:37,910 --> 03:02:36,160
uh as an official member you just tell

5064
03:02:40,550 --> 03:02:37,920
us what what title we we have a few

5065
03:02:42,710 --> 03:02:40,560
titles open but um you know we'll we'll

5066
03:02:44,630 --> 03:02:42,720
uh just let us know what

5067
03:02:46,469 --> 03:02:44,640
what segment you would like to i'll i'll

5068
03:02:48,230 --> 03:02:46,479
probably have to do some thinking on

5069
03:02:49,750 --> 03:02:48,240
that one i don't know what the title is

5070
03:02:51,429 --> 03:02:49,760
yeah yeah you don't put me on the spot i

5071
03:02:52,790 --> 03:02:51,439
can't come up with anything dang it i

5072
03:02:54,630 --> 03:02:52,800
thought you were gonna come up i can't

5073
03:02:59,030 --> 03:02:54,640
i'm drawing a blank

5074
03:03:01,110 --> 03:02:59,040
oh dude no worries man no worries uh

5075
03:03:03,510 --> 03:03:01,120
yeah yeah this has been great man it's

5076
03:03:05,670 --> 03:03:03,520
been an awesome night yeah having you

5077
03:03:07,269 --> 03:03:05,680
here and uh i don't know what i'm

5078
03:03:08,790 --> 03:03:07,279
dropping

5079
03:03:11,590 --> 03:03:08,800
i don't know

5080
03:03:13,349 --> 03:03:11,600
but yeah dude so i mean the the the end

5081
03:03:15,269 --> 03:03:13,359
of i kind of want to end on this guys is

5082
03:03:17,750 --> 03:03:15,279
that none of us know what the hell's

5083
03:03:19,510 --> 03:03:17,760
going on none of us know nope and we're

5084
03:03:20,950 --> 03:03:19,520
all just we just love this conversation

5085
03:03:22,150 --> 03:03:20,960
and i think everybody that's listening

5086
03:03:25,429 --> 03:03:22,160
in right now

5087
03:03:27,670 --> 03:03:25,439
wants to know too and it's really fun to

5088
03:03:29,269 --> 03:03:27,680
talk about this stuff like it's just fun

5089
03:03:30,950 --> 03:03:29,279
okay like

5090
03:03:33,670 --> 03:03:30,960
like no one uh

5091
03:03:35,429 --> 03:03:33,680
no one really knows i mean i guess lou

5092
03:03:37,349 --> 03:03:35,439
does know some stuff but hey we got to

5093
03:03:40,790 --> 03:03:37,359
talk to him and get to know him a little

5094
03:03:42,150 --> 03:03:40,800
better and that was cool but i i just i

5095
03:03:43,190 --> 03:03:42,160
kind of want to leave on that note is

5096
03:03:44,950 --> 03:03:43,200
that

5097
03:03:47,110 --> 03:03:44,960
no one if you if you really claim to

5098
03:03:48,710 --> 03:03:47,120
know what what's going on you probably

5099
03:03:50,630 --> 03:03:48,720
don't know what you're talking about i

5100
03:03:53,190 --> 03:03:50,640
mean we're right we've been we've been

5101
03:03:56,550 --> 03:03:53,200
told that by by many people in the in

5102
03:03:58,469 --> 03:03:56,560
the industry or the community um and

5103
03:04:00,230 --> 03:03:58,479
we've had a lot of uh

5104
03:04:02,150 --> 03:04:00,240
have a lot of friends in in the

5105
03:04:03,590 --> 03:04:02,160
community that have said yeah if anybody

5106
03:04:05,349 --> 03:04:03,600
claims like know what's going on and

5107
03:04:08,309 --> 03:04:05,359
spouting it on top of a mountain

5108
03:04:10,630 --> 03:04:08,319
like ah be wary of those people um yeah

5109
03:04:12,790 --> 03:04:10,640
so so i think at the end of the day we

5110
03:04:14,469 --> 03:04:12,800
to do ourselves a service should say

5111
03:04:16,469 --> 03:04:14,479
look we're just curious and we're trying

5112
03:04:17,510 --> 03:04:16,479
to get to the bottom of it that's yep

5113
03:04:21,269 --> 03:04:17,520
absolutely

5114
03:04:22,389 --> 03:04:21,279
oh third face of moon is on here dude

5115
03:04:24,469 --> 03:04:22,399
what's up

5116
03:04:27,110 --> 03:04:24,479
he's been chatting like

5117
03:04:29,990 --> 03:04:27,120
for a whole minute oh [\h__\h] my bad

5118
03:04:32,630 --> 03:04:30,000
uh all right well um i will stop

5119
03:04:34,550 --> 03:04:32,640
embarrassing myself uh hey guys uh

5120
03:04:35,990 --> 03:04:34,560
subscribe to the podcast or the youtube

5121
03:04:37,510 --> 03:04:36,000
channel please that would be awesome

5122
03:04:38,870 --> 03:04:37,520
we're trying to get to a thousand i

5123
03:04:41,030 --> 03:04:38,880
don't know i don't i still don't think

5124
03:04:43,429 --> 03:04:41,040
we're at a thousand subscribers

5125
03:04:45,910 --> 03:04:43,439
terry yes dude time to roll a bedtime

5126
03:04:47,830 --> 03:04:45,920
fatty yeah yeah dude

5127
03:04:49,670 --> 03:04:47,840
absolutely i'm gonna go ahead and get

5128
03:04:52,150 --> 03:04:49,680
out here let you guys close the show

5129
03:04:54,150 --> 03:04:52,160
down because you guys voices doing this

5130
03:04:57,030 --> 03:04:54,160
the the ending is way better than if i

5131
03:04:58,870 --> 03:04:57,040
tried to cooperate so i'm gonna bow out

5132
03:05:00,230 --> 03:04:58,880
gracefully all right man talk to your

5133
03:05:02,230 --> 03:05:00,240
talking to you all right see you guys

5134
03:05:04,070 --> 03:05:02,240
man peace dude

5135
03:05:06,630 --> 03:05:04,080
that was good stuff man thank all you

5136
03:05:08,630 --> 03:05:06,640
guys for uh for joining us tonight man

5137
03:05:10,870 --> 03:05:08,640
we had a we had a really good time yeah

5138
03:05:12,870 --> 03:05:10,880
it was pretty laid back had a couple had

5139
03:05:15,750 --> 03:05:12,880
a couple brews

5140
03:05:24,790 --> 03:05:15,760
uh we had some brews for lose

5141
03:05:29,590 --> 03:05:26,389
[Music]

5142
03:05:31,830 --> 03:05:29,600
we should start a wyoming brew oh okay

5143
03:05:32,870 --> 03:05:31,840
all right made in the garage that's

5144
03:05:35,030 --> 03:05:32,880
what's up

5145
03:05:36,550 --> 03:05:35,040
i feel like the best beer is

5146
03:05:38,790 --> 03:05:36,560
brewed in the garage

5147
03:05:45,140 --> 03:05:38,800
yeah like homemade beer yeah you know

5148
03:05:49,670 --> 03:05:47,590
[Laughter]

5149
03:05:51,429 --> 03:05:49,680
all right dude yeah we gotta get hop off

5150
03:05:52,870 --> 03:05:51,439
thanks guys for hanging out uh please

5151
03:05:55,590 --> 03:05:52,880
subscribe to the channel that would be

5152
03:05:57,510 --> 03:05:55,600
awesome uh yeah ufo garage podcast if

5153
03:05:59,349 --> 03:05:57,520
you're just listening in uh thanks for

5154
03:06:01,910 --> 03:05:59,359
joining us tonight and yeah we're going

5155
03:06:04,230 --> 03:06:01,920
to be back on next week with uh well we

5156
03:06:05,910 --> 03:06:04,240
don't know yet but

5157
03:06:07,750 --> 03:06:05,920
we'll post it

5158
03:06:10,309 --> 03:06:07,760
but yeah we have some awesome people

5159
03:06:12,230 --> 03:06:10,319
that are on the the podcast regularly um

5160
03:06:16,550 --> 03:06:12,240
and also yeah shout out to david

5161
03:06:19,670 --> 03:06:16,560
space.radio uh will and micah at bob

5162
03:06:22,790 --> 03:06:19,680
podcast uh check them out and uh mark

5163
03:06:24,550 --> 03:06:22,800
and phil at what if tomorrow podcast uh

5164
03:06:28,469 --> 03:06:24,560
those are all of our really good buddy

5165
03:06:31,030 --> 03:06:28,479
podcasters and uh uh let's see uh uap

5166
03:06:31,910 --> 03:06:31,040
expeditions uh uh

5167
03:06:36,469 --> 03:06:31,920
uh

5168
03:06:38,070 --> 03:06:36,479
they're just awesome people so

5169
03:06:39,830 --> 03:06:38,080
if you like what we're doing uh if you

5170
03:06:41,030 --> 03:06:39,840
wanna you know check out the other

5171
03:06:42,710 --> 03:06:41,040
people that we

5172
03:06:44,150 --> 03:06:42,720
talk to on a regular basis check them

5173
03:06:46,309 --> 03:06:44,160
out as well uh

5174
03:06:47,750 --> 03:06:46,319
ufo garagepodcast.com we've got all the

5175
03:06:49,750 --> 03:06:47,760
links up there too

5176
03:06:51,670 --> 03:06:49,760
and uh to the farts academy and boston

5177
03:06:53,750 --> 03:06:51,680
and company co is also on there as well

5178
03:06:55,590 --> 03:06:53,760
you got to save me at some point

5179
03:06:58,469 --> 03:06:55,600
don't forget to check out check out uh

5180
03:07:00,710 --> 03:06:58,479
private talk with alexis texas

5181
03:07:02,710 --> 03:07:00,720
she's uh she's got a great podcast yeah

5182
03:07:04,150 --> 03:07:02,720
and uh is that what you were looking at

5183
03:07:06,550 --> 03:07:04,160
yeah yeah i couldn't remember the name

5184
03:07:08,950 --> 03:07:06,560
of it but i started listening to it and

5185
03:07:10,710 --> 03:07:08,960
and uh let's just say i'm a big fan all

5186
03:07:15,110 --> 03:07:10,720
right she's a big she was a big part of

5187
03:07:15,910 --> 03:07:15,120
my uh of uh of uh my uh my adolescence

5188
03:07:19,349 --> 03:07:15,920
you know

5189
03:07:21,030 --> 03:07:19,359
into manhood right so so go check out

5190
03:07:22,389 --> 03:07:21,040
go check out maybe one of these days we

5191
03:07:24,710 --> 03:07:22,399
can get a lexus texas to come on the

5192
03:07:25,670 --> 03:07:24,720
show man talk about aliens well let's be

5193
03:07:28,710 --> 03:07:25,680
sick

5194
03:07:30,790 --> 03:07:28,720
also uh we should get her on on uh uh

5195
03:07:32,710 --> 03:07:30,800
next thursday

5196
03:07:36,389 --> 03:07:32,720
okay

5197
03:07:41,910 --> 03:07:36,399
reach let's reach out episode 169 dude

5198
03:07:46,870 --> 03:07:43,349
all right let's hop off all right dude